RE: BMW Z4M Coupe | Spotted
RE: BMW Z4M Coupe | Spotted
Wednesday 8th June 2022

BMW Z4M Coupe | Spotted

As E46 M3s continue to appreciate, is now the time to think about a Z4M?


This likely isn’t news to anyone, but the days of cheap E46 M3s are long gone - and not likely to return, either. Cheap and good, that is; you could probably shell out not much initially then spend a lot sorting stuff out. It’s all great news for owners, who have seen values of their seminal M car boom in not much time at all, and rather less encouraging for those of us who want to buy an M3. Because we now live in a time where even a CS can command almost £40k. And that’s not really the ‘vaguely affordable modern classic M car’ we imagined E46s would remain.

However, there is a glimmer of hope. Because there’s a contemporary of the M3, powered by the same engine, that was manual only, rarer, arguably more stylish and doesn’t seem to have appreciated at quite such a ferocious rate. We’re talking, of course, about the Z4M Coupe.

Now, there’s a good reason why the Z4 isn’t quite as revered as the M3; it’s commonly accepted that, in best BMW tradition, the saloon-derived coupe is better to drive than the actual sports car coupe. And the Z4 doesn’t have an M3 badge. That said, if you want character, a wild side that maybe put off new customers but now will excite on a sunny Sunday, then here’s your car. With one of the best six-cylinder engines ever made. Plus, if the Z4 remains just a tad too lairy, there must be a host of aftermarket bits now to quell some of the waywardness.

Once upon a time, nobody really liked how the Z4M Coupe looked, it being not as wantonly weird as the Z3M that had preceded it nor as classically handsome as the M3. Nowadays, though - and while this remains pretty subjective - we seem to be in a real sweet spot for the Z4. What was weird and futuristic still seems modern. Certainly more distinctive than yet another two-door 3 Series, and more cohesive than the Z3M - however lovable the old clown shoe is. There’s not even a set of CSL replica wheels on this Z4, which are apparently mandatory given their popularity, and it remains a real looker.

The only bad news, really, is that Z4Ms have gone up in value as well, albeit not quite like the M3. This 2007 car has 60,000 miles, a manual gearbox (there was never an SMG option, as part of the traditionalist approach) and is being offered by the dealer that sold it last time around in 2020. While it’s had a lot of owners (eight), all the required maintenance has been carried out. “Still the excellent Z4MC that left our showroom two years ago”, reads the advert appraisal. Certainly scrubs up nicely, inside and out, for the pics.

An asking price of £22,995 leads us back to our original point. Yes, it’s more than it will have been in recent history, but not my much; in 2019, a 2006 car with a few more miles was £20k. Crucially, too, an M3 for this money is going to be older, higher mileage, or with the SMG - £21,995 buys an E46 CS with almost twice the miles. This isn’t the sort of money anyone would call a bargain, unfortunately, but the M3’s ascendancy arguably makes the quirky Z4 more appealing than ever.


SPECIFICATION | BMW Z4 M COUPE

Engine: 3,246cc, straight-six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 343@7,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 269@4,900rpm
MPG: 23
CO2: 292g/km
First registered: 2007
Mileage: 59,800
Price new: £42,245
Price now: £22,995

See the original advert here

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Antj

Original Poster:

1,144 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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the 3.0 Si coupe is the sweet spot. its always sat in the shadow of the M but in recent years the prices have risen more than the Z4M as people have realised the running costs of the S54 vs the more mainstream but equally fruity N52 is not really worth it. Also the physical looks differ very little between the two. The Z4M was only every a half hearted M division car . so before you do take the plunge go try a 3.0 Si before.

richinlondon

866 posts

149 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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that seems a reasonable price tbh especially for Munich Legends!

Earthdweller

18,915 posts

153 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Antj said:
the 3.0 Si coupe is the sweet spot. its always sat in the shadow of the M but in recent years the prices have risen more than the Z4M as people have realised the running costs of the S54 vs the more mainstream but equally fruity N52 is not really worth it. Also the physical looks differ very little between the two. The Z4M was only every a half hearted M division car . so before you do take the plunge go try a 3.0 Si before.
Agree with that, the Si is the better car for most people most of the time

rotaryjam

705 posts

128 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Antj said:
the 3.0 Si coupe is the sweet spot. its always sat in the shadow of the M but in recent years the prices have risen more than the Z4M as people have realised the running costs of the S54 vs the more mainstream but equally fruity N52 is not really worth it. Also the physical looks differ very little between the two. The Z4M was only every a half hearted M division car . so before you do take the plunge go try a 3.0 Si before.
I look at these and the 3.0 si and interestingly the power delivery is pretty much identical up to 4,750 odd rpm and not hugely different up to 6,750 rpm where the M carry on



From researching these the concensus seems to be that the M just isn't quite right and is unruly but not in a good way.

The si does seem like the more sensible purchase!

Edited by rotaryjam on Thursday 9th June 10:26

TyrannosauRoss Lex

36,729 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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rotaryjam said:
Antj said:
the 3.0 Si coupe is the sweet spot. its always sat in the shadow of the M but in recent years the prices have risen more than the Z4M as people have realised the running costs of the S54 vs the more mainstream but equally fruity N52 is not really worth it. Also the physical looks differ very little between the two. The Z4M was only every a half hearted M division car . so before you do take the plunge go try a 3.0 Si before.
I look at these and the 3.0 si and interestingly the power delivery is pretty much identical up to 4,750 odd rpm and not hugely different up to 6,750 rpm where the M carry on



From researching these the concensus seems to be that the M just isn't quite right and is unruly but not in a good way.

The si does seem like the more sensible purchase!

Edited by rotaryjam on Thursday 9th June 10:26
But then if the gearing is similar then you wouldn't be driving around everywhere at the same rpm, so kind of a moot point. For example, both cars doing 40mph in 3rd gear, assuming 3rd goes to 100mph or so in both cars, the M car will be revving higher and therefore making more power.

That graph is also wrong, the Z4M makes around 340bhp, whereas there it shows under 300.

Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Thursday 9th June 10:42

chalkyrabbit

11 posts

185 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Had a Z3 M roadster, massively underrated car, the engine is fantastic, and handling can be sorted, mine kept pace with Boxster S at the time no worries, would have another in heartbeat

9k rpm

611 posts

237 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Had a Z4 3.0 Si roadster. Wonderful engine and surprisingly frugal on a run. Interior was the main let down; was very creaky and lots of rattles. Massively dependent on tyres handling transformed after runflats were ditched.

Water Fairy

6,527 posts

182 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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chalkyrabbit said:
Had a Z3 M roadster, massively underrated car, the engine is fantastic, and handling can be sorted, mine kept pace with Boxster S at the time no worries, would have another in heartbeat
I'd have hoped it was quicker tbh

smilo996

3,702 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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to be fair, it was time a number of years ago when journos first started suggesting it was time......

asci.white

520 posts

100 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That graph is also wrong, the Z4M makes around 340bhp, whereas there it shows under 300.

Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Thursday 9th June 10:42
I'd imagine the figures are ATW power rather than flywheel?

breezer_42

36 posts

102 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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I had one for a few years and really, really wanted to love it. Sadly I couldn’t get on with the gearbox or the adaptive throttle. Chassis was spiky in a fun, but mildly terrifying way though.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

36,729 posts

239 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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asci.white said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That graph is also wrong, the Z4M makes around 340bhp, whereas there it shows under 300.

Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Thursday 9th June 10:42
I'd imagine the figures are ATW power rather than flywheel?
Well the 3.0 seems to go to its stated flywheel figure which is around 230......looks like it's comparing the Z3M rather than thr Z4M?

sutts

1,109 posts

175 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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I had a lovely low miles black car for quite a few years; slightly more interesting spec than this one with red leather seats, the ‘carbon leather’ interior trim and an ACS exhaust (made by Remus). Sold it on 29,000 miles a few years ago, having done 10,000 miles. Nothing went wrong and build quality was good. Performance in a straight line was equal to my B7 RS4 at the time and also impressed my mate who had a 997.1 Carrera S.

I think they do look different enough to the 3.0, with specific bonnet, front bumper, rear bumper, exhaust, wheels and ride height. Performance may not be too dissimilar, but that S54 engine is so special and revving it out never gets old.

Handling wise they were criticised when new, but that could be easily improved with more modern tyres and subsequently with geo tweaks if you wanted to go further.

I would certainly consider one again as 2nd/3rd car; they are an event to drive and pretty rare.






Bemmer

1,195 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Up north but this place www.cramag.com always seem to have an interesting selection of Z Coupe's in stock.

asci.white

520 posts

100 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Well the 3.0 seems to go to its stated flywheel figure which is around 230......
N52 is 260+ bhp though.

DevonPaul

1,696 posts

164 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That graph is also wrong, the Z4M makes around 340bhp, whereas there it shows under 300.
Agreed, having driven both and owning one, the M is massively faster than the 3.0, and also felt a lot more torquey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M54

The 3.0 is over 100BHP down on the M. However it is still a fast car, and for a daily I would say the better bet, but when you hit that little bit of clear straight then the caravan you've been sat behind for 10 mins is history in the M where the 3.0 would still be waiting.

defonsecca

135 posts

112 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Agree with the above posts . I owned a Z4M Coupe a few years back for about 18 months but I never bonded with it and was glad to sell it on to be honest.

I can't put my finger on it but I guess it was the whole combination of a very poor / crashy ride quality (I was forever looking out for potholes), odd handling behaviour, the even odder lack of charisma from the supposed fabled M3 engine (it worked great in the E46 of course but somehow not in the Z4M to me), strange power delivery etc. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad car at all just not what you'd expect from those fantastic looks, great engine & M-engineers. The interior was a lovely place to be though.

I went scurrying back to the safe hands of an Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 24v after i sold it - a far more charismatic, soulful & likeable car which actually felt quicker & more responsive than the Z4M Coupe even though the figures don't say so. And such a nicer noise as well.

Pistom

6,358 posts

186 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Having owned both the 3.0 and the M, the M was a lot more fun.

They were great value back in the day.

I think they still are now.

WD-40

119 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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sutts said:
I had a lovely low miles black car for quite a few years; slightly more interesting spec than this one with red leather seats, the ‘carbon leather’ interior trim and an ACS exhaust (made by Remus). Sold it on 29,000 miles a few years ago, having done 10,000 miles. Nothing went wrong and build quality was good. Performance in a straight line was equal to my B7 RS4 at the time and also impressed my mate who had a 997.1 Carrera S.

I think they do look different enough to the 3.0, with specific bonnet, front bumper, rear bumper, exhaust, wheels and ride height. Performance may not be too dissimilar, but that S54 engine is so special and revving it out never gets old.

Handling wise they were criticised when new, but that could be easily improved with more modern tyres and subsequently with geo tweaks if you wanted to go further.

I would certainly consider one again as 2nd/3rd car; they are an event to drive and pretty rare.





I had a Z4MR for about 3 years many years ago and I agree they look waaaaaaay better than the 3.0si. I wouldn't look twice at a 3.0si but my head is always turned by a Z4M.

I can't compare performance but the Z4MR could be a real event to drive. Scary at times, but often memorable and certainly got the heartbeat going. Being honest it probably scared / excited me more than any car I've ever owned (slightly ahead of my current M2) but I'm sure there must be some after-market suspension kits that could sort that out (which I intend to do for my M2).

As above, perfect for a second car and to be fair, I found it absolutely fine as a daily driver at the time (in my relative youth).

Pereldh

790 posts

139 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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Antj said:
the 3.0 Si coupe is the sweet spot. its always sat in the shadow of the M but in recent years the prices have risen more than the Z4M as people have realised the running costs of the S54 vs the more mainstream but equally fruity N52 is not really worth it. Also the physical looks differ very little between the two. The Z4M was only every a half hearted M division car . so before you do take the plunge go try a 3.0 Si before.
Driven both, and while similar looking, they feel like 2 completely different animals to drive. Its a matter of taste as always. Like, between a 330i or an M3.
3.0Si comfortable & nice, a bit boulevard maybe and I did not like the el.steering. Certainly not the exciting lairy monster the Z4M Coupe is..
Z4M of course had std ('non-runflat') tires and hydraulic quick steering from the M3 CSL (in Z4M Coupe).

To me, my M was a bit too hard riding and too much road noise. Both has since been fixed tho, by Eibach Pro springs (now KWV3) and some noise cancelling in the otherwise empty doors. Of course, CSL-wheels are a great addition too! smile
Now its both a great GT and a great track car.









Edited by Pereldh on Thursday 9th June 13:06