Saving money in a diesel. Heating oil.
Saving money in a diesel. Heating oil.
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lrdisco

Original Poster:

1,747 posts

118 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

70 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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I worked out at around 1 pound a litre of veg oil, you could make your own bio diesel for 1.50 a litre.

What's gets me is how diesel is a prime candidate for other fuel sources.

bennno

15,301 posts

300 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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lrdisco said:
I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?
Adherence to the law?

lrdisco

Original Poster:

1,747 posts

118 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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bennno said:
lrdisco said:
I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?
Adherence to the law?
What just like our government adheres to the law?

vikingaero

13,506 posts

200 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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lrdisco said:
bennno said:
lrdisco said:
I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?
Adherence to the law?
What just like our government adheres to the law?
You crack on then!

Jawls

789 posts

82 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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lrdisco said:
I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?
Heating kero is marked (it’s got a yellow dye in it). Buying unmarked kero requires paperwork that isn’t realistically available to average Joe (unmarked kero used in stuff like firelighter production). No idea how the yellow dye would interact with white diesel.

Baldchap

9,637 posts

123 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.

_Hoppers

1,727 posts

96 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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lrdisco said:
bennno said:
lrdisco said:
I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?
Adherence to the law?
What just like our government adheres to the law?
As long as you break it in a "specific and limited way" you'll be fine wink

Pica-Pica

16,703 posts

115 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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vikingaero said:
lrdisco said:
bennno said:
lrdisco said:
I know many are struggling especially those in rural areas so what’s to stop you putting heating oil in your diesel car?
It produces roughly the same BTU. Is not marked with dye.

No duty to pay and VAT at 5%.
Cost around £1 a litre currently. Saving £45 a fill up!
Yes a little time consuming but with huge savings available.

I won’t be doing it but what’s to stop others?
Adherence to the law?
What just like our government adheres to the law?
You crack on then!
Indeed. Some of us hold ourselves to higher standard than the PM.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

67 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Baldchap said:
I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.
Only ones that aren’t allowed to use rebated fuel it’s only a dye ..

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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I'm sure 1000's, probably tens of thousands of people do just that.

Like you pointed out you could be saving as much as £50 a tank and just look around at the things people will do to save a couple of quid.

I may have seen SVO and used engine oil thrown straight into the tank. It wasn't anything to do with the engine or fuel system that eventually killed that Vectra.

Ouroboros

2,371 posts

70 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Buy an old diesel, run it on anything. Modern cars you are playing with fire.


anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Baldchap said:
I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.
That simply isn’t the case, check out the complexity of modern tractor engines they certainly won’t run on low quality fuel.

I used to run my old Omega (bmw straight six) on cooking oil without issue, it was a bit cheaper but also a bit of a faff buying the drums and physically fuelling it.

TCX

1,976 posts

86 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Ivan stewart said:
Baldchap said:
I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.
Only ones that aren’t allowed to use rebated fuel it’s only a dye ..
Engines in plant seemed to manage ok,most of problems were people using dirty drums to 'aquire' red diesel with knock on effect to common rail engines

normalbloke

8,985 posts

250 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Jet fuel works well too, apparently.

Rawhide

980 posts

244 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Heating oil is Kerosene. I have to order about 500l per month for my home frown The cost is now between 80p to 100p per litre.

I've looked into this already and I think the short answer is that you would need to run about a 50:50 mix of kerosene to diesel on a modern engine.

Even then I think the risks would outweigh the benefits.

J__Wood

583 posts

92 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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A few years back, but I don't think it has changed, down in the antarctic all the diesel kit ran on Kerosene with a little two stroke oil for lubrication. Done so they don't get waxing issue.

bennno

15,301 posts

300 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Rawhide said:
Heating oil is Kerosene. I have to order about 500l per month for my home frown The cost is now between 80p to 100p per litre.

I've looked into this already and I think the short answer is that you would need to run about a 50:50 mix of kerosene to diesel on a modern engine.

Even then I think the risks would outweigh the benefits.
28second heating oil is kerosene, 35 sec oil is the same as red diesel

Nefos

258 posts

115 months

Tuesday 14th June 2022
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Baldchap said:
I know red diesel isn't suitable for many modern diesel engines, even going back a good few years. I'd be amazed if heating oil is suitable.
One of the main issue with red diesel is that it is not always stored as neatly as normal fuel, especially if you get in barrels or whatnot and it can get water and dirt in. For trucks/tractors it is not an issue as they have a very good diesel filtering system, that filters out dirt and water, and we are talking about pretty large filters. AFAIK modern cars don't have water filter, plus they have a relatively small filters.