RE: Gordon Murray Group launches new technology arm
RE: Gordon Murray Group launches new technology arm
Thursday 30th June 2022

Gordon Murray Group launches new technology arm

Brace yourselves: a Gordon Murray electric SUV is set to become a reality


Things are about to get a whole lot more serious at the Gordon Murray Group. With the new T.50 and the more 'affordable’ T.33 already sold out, the legendary designer is now looking to find ways to develop new technologies that can benefit other car manufacturers – and charge them for it.

Hence the creation of Gordon Murray Technology, a new division that will both support the Automotive side of the group and be used to develop electric vehicles for other carmakers. GMT already has a couple of projects in the works around electric SUVs, one of which, the company says, is being built for a “major car manufacturer.” Let the guessing games begin.

An electric SUV might sound like the polar opposite of what Gordon Murray stands for - this is a man who goes to great lengths to find the lightest hi-fi systems available for his cars, after all - but the same seven core principles used by the Automotive division will be adopted for GMT. So think driving perfection, performance through light-weighting, engineering excellence, sustainable mobility, disruptive technologies, low energy solutions and innovation by design.

It goes without saying that Murray thinks the strategy is an essential step for the group to move forwards. “Our major growth opportunity now lies with Gordon Murray Technology”, he says. “We have a best-in-class highly talented team, capable of working with a global client base, transforming electric vehicles, connectivity and, eventually, autonomous transportation.”

The new division means the whole group has undergone a bit of a reshuffle. Murray, formerly the head of GMG, will now take up the role of executive chairman, overseeing development and design of all products across the business. The CEO seat will be filled by Philip Lee, who’s resume includes a stint at Lotus before joining the Gordon Murray Group in 2020.

Still, Murray seems as hungry as ever to prove himself with a new vehicle concept. He says “people will reconsider what electric vehicles are capable of” with the firm’s new EV projects, but he also teased “a lot more exciting news to come” from the side of the company that makes beautiful and very shouty V12 supercars. Something else to look forward to then. 


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Macboy

Original Poster:

781 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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No doubt the enormous success of the iStream system and the radical shake up of mainstram manufacturing it enabled has given his investors the confidence to make this move....good job they're building a big campus for the queue of OEM engineering directors to snake around.

asci.white

497 posts

95 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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I grew up with one of the engineers involved and from the little info I have managed to drag out they have some great things in the pipe line.

Good on them.

redroadster

1,886 posts

254 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Only 2 million a pop cheap school run machine init.

alishutc

99 posts

71 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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An electric SUV you say? What an exciting original concept.

romac

608 posts

168 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Article said:
Things are about to get a whole lot more serious at the Gordon Murray Group. With the new T.50 and the more 'affordable’ T.33 already sold out...
For a minute there I thought the article was going to go on to say "...they are now twiddling their thumbs waiting for someone to give them something to do whilst glancing worriedly at the bank balance".

Maybe they could give TVR a helping hand?

flukey5

406 posts

82 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Oh boy can't wait for another skateboard chassis battery electric SUV with a different shell.

Electric cars aren't the solution because combustion cars are not the problem. We need to overhaul how we generate energy first...

Zero emissions vehicles are nothing more than indirect emissions vehicles right now. Hopefully all the hype encourages more renewable energy but it's taken 50 years for global energy usage to reach 2% renewables so maybe not soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8CnlL8I4HE&t=...

Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 30th June 13:39

oilit

2,775 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Macboy said:
No doubt the enormous success of the iStream system and the radical shake up of mainstram manufacturing it enabled has given his investors the confidence to make this move....good job they're building a big campus for the queue of OEM engineering directors to snake around.
I didnt realise anyone was using istream! Have they announced which vendors are using it (apart from TVR!!)

Wab1974uk

1,242 posts

49 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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flukey5 said:
Oh boy can't wait for another skateboard chassis battery electric SUV with a different shell.

Electric cars aren't the solution because combustion cars are not the problem. We need to overhaul how we generate energy first...

Zero emissions vehicles are nothing more than indirect emissions vehicles right now. Hopefully all the hype encourages more renewable energy but it's taken 50 years for global energy usage to reach 2% renewables so maybe not soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8CnlL8I4HE&t=...

Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 30th June 13:39
Careful there. Anything said against EV's being the saviour of mankind, gets you ridiculed and labelled a conspiracy theorist. They'll want proof of your scientific degree and thesis. If EV's were in anyway damaging to the planet, it would be on the BBC news rofl

Wab1974uk

1,242 posts

49 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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T.50 - irrelevant to everyone apart from Billionaires who will never drive them.

T.33 - irrelevant to everyone apart from Billionaires who will never drive them.

Gordon Murray EV SUV. Another £1m+ car which will be irrelevant to all but Billionaires

Gordon Murray just lives in a Bubble where everyone has £1m+ to spunk on a car.

malaccamax

1,547 posts

253 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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There were a couple of iStream vehicles supposed to be in the pipeline (apart from TVR) but haven't heard anything about them. I guess GMD IS getting paid work otherwise it couldn't survive but it's hard to see what that is, apart from the supercars

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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flukey5 said:
Oh boy can't wait for another skateboard chassis battery electric SUV with a different shell.

Electric cars aren't the solution because combustion cars are not the problem. We need to overhaul how we generate energy first...

Zero emissions vehicles are nothing more than indirect emissions vehicles right now. Hopefully all the hype encourages more renewable energy but it's taken 50 years for global energy usage to reach 2% renewables so maybe not soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8CnlL8I4HE&t=...

Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 30th June 13:39
2010 called and it wants it's b*ll*hit back smile

D4rez

1,668 posts

78 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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flukey5 said:
Oh boy can't wait for another skateboard chassis battery electric SUV with a different shell.

Electric cars aren't the solution because combustion cars are not the problem. We need to overhaul how we generate energy first...

Zero emissions vehicles are nothing more than indirect emissions vehicles right now. Hopefully all the hype encourages more renewable energy but it's taken 50 years for global energy usage to reach 2% renewables so maybe not soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8CnlL8I4HE&t=...

Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 30th June 13:39
If you live in a mature market like the U.K. or the EU this is irrelevant. It will get better still but not a reason to delay at all as an EV is still around 60% better on CO2

alishutc

99 posts

71 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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D4rez said:
If you live in a mature market like the U.K. or the EU this is irrelevant. It will get better still but not a reason to delay at all as an EV is still around 60% better on CO2
Besides which, even if all EVs did was move the pollution generation out of cities to the place where the power is generated, that would still be a big win.

With all the instant power and low centre of gravity there is plenty of scope for people that know what they are doing to make an interesting driving experience, it's a shame that talent is being wasted on SUVs rather than something a bit more interesting.

asci.white

497 posts

95 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Wab1974uk said:
T.50 - irrelevant to everyone apart from Billionaires who will never drive them.

T.33 - irrelevant to everyone apart from Billionaires who will never drive them.

Gordon Murray EV SUV. Another £1m+ car which will be irrelevant to all but Billionaires

Gordon Murray just lives in a Bubble where everyone has £1m+ to spunk on a car.
Why so bitter and negative?

Totally cliché of me but can't you be happy they exist?

And they're going to be used, fair enough not all but some will get decent mileage..

Nockenpaul

95 posts

88 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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oilit said:
Macboy said:
No doubt the enormous success of the iStream system and the radical shake up of mainstram manufacturing it enabled has given his investors the confidence to make this move....good job they're building a big campus for the queue of OEM engineering directors to snake around.
I didnt realise anyone was using istream! Have they announced which vendors are using it (apart from TVR!!)
I think this calls for a whoosh :-)

And props to Macboy for prime sarcasm skills, btw.

Bencolem

1,150 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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romac said:
For a minute there I thought the article was going to go on to say "...they are now twiddling their thumbs waiting for someone to give them something to do whilst glancing worriedly at the bank balance".

Maybe they could give TVR a helping hand?
Hope this is meant to be ironic!

ManyMotors

995 posts

120 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Gordy, at age 76, might as well get some additional revenue. I hope he has enough capital to staff up and leverage his own expertise - maybe even convey some of it. But his act is old and not for anyone without a nine-figure investment account.

BigRobbo

45 posts

46 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Nothing for anybody living in the real world, yet more hyper expensive toys beyond the reach of normal people 🫤

flukey5

406 posts

82 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Wab1974uk said:
flukey5 said:
Oh boy can't wait for another skateboard chassis battery electric SUV with a different shell.

Electric cars aren't the solution because combustion cars are not the problem. We need to overhaul how we generate energy first...

Zero emissions vehicles are nothing more than indirect emissions vehicles right now. Hopefully all the hype encourages more renewable energy but it's taken 50 years for global energy usage to reach 2% renewables so maybe not soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8CnlL8I4HE&t=...

Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 30th June 13:39
Careful there. Anything said against EV's being the saviour of mankind, gets you ridiculed and labelled a conspiracy theorist. They'll want proof of your scientific degree and thesis. If EV's were in anyway damaging to the planet, it would be on the BBC news rofl
...and I actually do have a scientific degree for what it's worth lol.

Yeah there's a fervent belief in electric cars being a silver bullet to the worlds problems, when they just aren't.

of greenhouse gasses produced in the US, ~7% come from transportation. That's including freight, avation, etc which aren't being replaced by batteries because they aren't good enough for that yet. Now say private vehicles account for 5% (they don't, but lets say they do). You only gain about 20% efficiency from burning the fossil fuels at a power plant and making electricity instead of doing it in a combustion engine.

So we're left with around a 1% total reduction in greenhouse gasses if all cars are electric and power plants are the same as current. Cool.

The only benefit is less pollution in crowded areas but it's these same crowded areas that have the most difficulties charging the cars.

Nah, I think I'll stick with my dead dinosaur explosion engine for now.

blade7

11,311 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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What, no reference to the Brabham fan car and Macca F1?