RE: Taycan set for range-enhancing software update
RE: Taycan set for range-enhancing software update
Tuesday 19th July 2022

Taycan set for range-enhancing software update

Own a Porsche Taycan? Then good news, there are improved features and functionality coming your way - for free


This isn’t news. Well, not for Tesla owners. Free, over-the-air-updates are as normal as buttered toast to Tesla drivers. They’re used to any day being like Christmas Day – while their Tesla Model ‘Something’ is sitting in the garage at night, a virtual stocking may have appeared and the next morning the car will be better – a new toy or a bug fix, or both. And all for free.

This is news to Porsche Taycan owners, though. There’s a new, free update available for all the 75,000 Taycans that have been delivered worldwide since 2019. Only it’s not coming over-the-air, sadly. You’ll have to visit your local dealer to have your Taycan infused with ‘uPdate’ goodness, which is what Porsche is calling it. The age of your car will determine how much updating it’ll need – the oldest cars will see the most benefit – but bank on leaving your car at the dealer for a day. In part, this because the update is so huge it needs to be done manually and also because Porsche wants to check each car is performing as it should before handing it back to you. The other factor is some of the Taycan’s modules cannot auto update at the moment. One of the items on the list of fixes will address this, though. uPdate will switch on more modules to over-the-air updating from here on in.

Another part of the update will decrease charging times and increase the battery range – by up to 31 miles depending on the model. As standard, the Taycan comes with an 11kW AC on-board charger, but recently a 22kW AC charger became optional on new cars. This can now be retrofitted to older cars (for a cost), and uPdate synchs in with this and enables a Plug and Charge function. Plug and Charge does away with payment cards or apps. Instead, as you can probably guess, just plug in and the car establishes an encrypted communication with a compatible charger. Your bank account is debited automatically.

Of course, the Taycan can charge a lot quicker than 22kW on a DC charger – up to 270kW. That’s still its peak, but the charging rate varies enormously depending on factors such as the battery’s current state of charge and temperature. This update will extend the maximum charging speed window when the battery is nearer full, and also keep it higher over a wider temperature range. After the update, the ideal charging temperature for the Taycan will drop from 35 degrees C to 28 before de-rating occurs. It also uses more waste heat from the electrical components to maintain the ideal battery temperature, increasing the charging efficiency.

Another efficiency gain comes from improved battery regeneration on the move and the ability to de-couple the front axle. Obviously, the latter is only applicable to the AWD Taycan’s, and it’s an electrical de-coupling, done in the inverter, rather than a full mechanical disconnect. Because the armature is still turning there are still some losses as a result of the electromagnetic field it produces, but overall there’s a net benefit.

Right, what about new toys? Yes, there are some of those, too. The uPdate switches on Android Auto, so both Apple and Google devices can now be mirrored wirelessly onto the infotainment screen. There’s also Spotify available as an app, and there are enhanced graphics for the infotainment, with coloured icons added, along with usability improvements – including optimising the voice control. You can also select charging stops based on charging speed through the navigation system. For example, you can select chargers that are at least 200kW. The navigation system also shows you the latest charging stations, including the recently opened Tesla Superchargers. If you struggle with parking then the Park Assist has been improved. The sensors it uses to locate parking spots have a greater range and will be less picky – they’ll agree to attempt docking in even tighter spaces. Finally, there are features that can now be unlocked post purchase. Among them is keyless entry, although, just as it will with a new car, Porsche will charge you to add it. 

“This campaign will allow all customers to benefit from the continuous further development of the Taycan. We have extensively optimised the model series in almost every respect since 2019,” says Kevin Giek, Vice President Model Line Taycan. “New functions have been added and others have been revised or tweaked to further enhance the customer experience. Following this update, anyone driving a Taycan from early in the car’s production run will be pleasantly surprised by how much has developed on the vehicle side since then.”


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Bencolem

Original Poster:

1,192 posts

270 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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John Howell said:
Finally, there are features that can now be unlocked post purchase. among them is keyless entry, although, just as it will with a new car, Porsche will charge you to add it.
I wonder if - like Tesla - Porsche will also ‘turn off’ the features that you’ve paid to add to your car once you sell it used…

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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article said:
In part, this because the update is so huge it needs to be done manually and also because Porsche wants to check each car is performing as it should before handing it back to you. The other factor is some of the Taycan’s modules cannot auto update at the moment
One of the statements in this ^^ is true, the other two are b*ll*cks. I'll leave you to figure out why they are having to carry out a massive, expensive and time consuming physical recall.........


Worth noting that the real reason for the recal is pretty much guaranteed to not be actually anything mentioned. They will have found something that needs fixing but without over-the-air updates, have used the recal to fix the fix, but also to wrap it up in something the owner might find useful so as to disguise the true fix and so as to avoid the bad press from a "recall". The fact some critical module didn't have OTA updates originally is however rather significant, suggesting the model was rushed out the door originally....

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Why is there this assumption that OTA updates are the exclusive domain of Tesla? I’ve had numerous OTA updates in the 5 months I’ve had my Polestar. The latest one has improved efficiency and also added CarPlay.

Numeric

1,499 posts

182 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Auto companies are seeing this unlocking of tech for a fee as a big revenue stream but I'm not so sure.

For the second hand buyer I suspect aftermarket solutions will be available and likely a court case will happen to determine who owns the tech in a car. If you have paid for the car, the tech is yours and if you want Bill Blogs chips to unlock it that is your prerogative will be the argument, so the OEM may find themselves forced to open the code.

Equally for the new market, yes you may not choose for heated steering to be enabled and ask for it later. But as we see cars perhaps become more homogenised, it will be these features offered as standard that shift metal (plastic?) and soon the features do creep through the auto world.

When I was a kid you bought a Merc S-class and it didn't feature a standard radio, now you buy a Kia and it parks itself. Automakers who overly restrict tech may find themselves swiftly overtaken. The game changer is the end of performance as a differentiator, auto speed limiting etc means it is tech and body shell rather than handling and power that will differentiate cars, so I guess it will have to be standard to offer the differentiation?

One interesting feature - it is now clearly so cheap to add all the tech at build to simplify manufacturing and is therefore the lower cost option, amazing pace, first noticed that when manual window windows on a range became more expensive than electric to manufacture so were deleted and went all electric but it's clearly moved on a long way!.

delta0

2,553 posts

137 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Bencolem said:
John Howell said:
Finally, there are features that can now be unlocked post purchase. among them is keyless entry, although, just as it will with a new car, Porsche will charge you to add it.
I wonder if - like Tesla - Porsche will also ‘turn off’ the features that you’ve paid to add to your car once you sell it used…
That was a very oddly reported story a few years ago in the US. They did restore those features to those used cars as it was a mistake. It’s certainly never happened in the UK. All features added to the car will stay with the car.

annodomini2

6,974 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Max_Torque said:
article said:
In part, this because the update is so huge it needs to be done manually and also because Porsche wants to check each car is performing as it should before handing it back to you. The other factor is some of the Taycan’s modules cannot auto update at the moment
One of the statements in this ^^ is true, the other two are b*ll*cks. I'll leave you to figure out why they are having to carry out a massive, expensive and time consuming physical recall.........


Worth noting that the real reason for the recal is pretty much guaranteed to not be actually anything mentioned. They will have found something that needs fixing but without over-the-air updates, have used the recal to fix the fix, but also to wrap it up in something the owner might find useful so as to disguise the true fix and so as to avoid the bad press from a "recall". The fact some critical module didn't have OTA updates originally is however rather significant, suggesting the model was rushed out the door originally....
OTA updates are an evolving field in many OEMs, some can update everything, others can only update certain elements.

The main sticking points appear to be bootloader's and backend infrastructure.

LooneyTunes

9,492 posts

189 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Max_Torque said:
One of the statements in this ^^ is true, the other two are b*ll*cks. I'll leave you to figure out why they are having to carry out a massive, expensive and time consuming physical recall.........


Worth noting that the real reason for the recal is pretty much guaranteed to not be actually anything mentioned. They will have found something that needs fixing but without over-the-air updates, have used the recal to fix the fix, but also to wrap it up in something the owner might find useful so as to disguise the true fix and so as to avoid the bad press from a "recall". The fact some critical module didn't have OTA updates originally is however rather significant, suggesting the model was rushed out the door originally....
There has been at least one (possibly more) large Taycan recall that was directly addressed with owners as such.

Tbh, there’s nothing sufficiently exciting in this “uPdate” that would cause us to get the car booked in.

Arsecati

2,789 posts

148 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Max_Torque said:
One of the statements in this ^^ is true, the other two are b*ll*cks. I'll leave you to figure out why they are having to carry out a massive, expensive and time consuming physical recall.........


Worth noting that the real reason for the recal is pretty much guaranteed to not be actually anything mentioned. They will have found something that needs fixing but without over-the-air updates, have used the recal to fix the fix, but also to wrap it up in something the owner might find useful so as to disguise the true fix and so as to avoid the bad press from a "recall". The fact some critical module didn't have OTA updates originally is however rather significant, suggesting the model was rushed out the door originally....
Well considering it's not an obligatory/mandatory update, forcing all owners to bring their cars in....... how do you see Porsche dealing with the fallout/lawsuits from all the exploding batteries (or whatever it is you believe needs 'recalling') in the cars that DIDN'T go in for their update (......... sorry......... 'recall')?

Alorotom

12,790 posts

218 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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delta0 said:
That was a very oddly reported story a few years ago in the US. They did restore those features to those used cars as it was a mistake. It’s certainly never happened in the UK. All features added to the car will stay with the car.
Tesla themselves state that any features purchased will remain with the vehicle through a private sale only (although I understand a private sale actually constitutes any sale other than via Tesla themselves). They however do reserve the right to deactivate and recharge for any such element(s) for vehicles that they buy back through their dealer network - which is perfectly permissible as they re-own the vehicle at that point and can do as they wish. In practice though I dont believe they've ever exercised their right.

Jim the Sunderer

3,261 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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It's a little embarrassing needing to physically have the device in their hands to update the software.

rodericb

8,927 posts

157 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Jim the Sunderer said:
It's a little embarrassing needing to physically have the device in their hands to update the software.
Think of it as air gapping. As more cars get OTA updates, the more chance that someone will either hack it, or more likely some manufacturer will push out some buggy software and take out a bunch of cars.

bobo79

318 posts

180 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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The press release doesn't actually appear to mention what the new range figure will be... which is surely the main thing that will interest customers.

redroadster

1,886 posts

263 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Not driven one but love the look of this car, as years go on they will get the electric job right early days.

SDK

3,718 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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ajap1979 said:
Why is there this assumption that OTA updates are the exclusive domain of Tesla? I’ve had numerous OTA updates in the 5 months I’ve had my Polestar. The latest one has improved efficiency and also added CarPlay.
Exactly - Tesla drivers think they are the ones receiving OTA updates.
Polestar have been doing them since November 2020 for the P2, and most other EV's released in the last two years get OTA updates too.

nismo48

7,221 posts

238 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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+1 agree

redroadster said:
Not driven one but love the look of this car, as years go on they will get the electric job right early days.

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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SDK said:
ajap1979 said:
Why is there this assumption that OTA updates are the exclusive domain of Tesla? I’ve had numerous OTA updates in the 5 months I’ve had my Polestar. The latest one has improved efficiency and also added CarPlay.
Exactly - Tesla drivers think they are the ones receiving OTA updates.
Polestar have been doing them since November 2020 for the P2, and most other EV's released in the last two years get OTA updates too.
Rather than being a case of how good Tesla (or Polestar) are, this is more a case of how bad Porsche are. Seriously, why is it a huge company like Porsche cant do something like this, when they've been in the car making game for so long? WTF are they waiting for?

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

72 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Weirdly my colleague seems to get his PS2 updates at least 2 weeks before the rest of us - every time.

pquinn

7,167 posts

77 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Max_Torque said:
One of the statements in this ^^ is true, the other two are b*ll*cks. I'll leave you to figure out why they are having to carry out a massive, expensive and time consuming physical recall.........


Worth noting that the real reason for the recal is pretty much guaranteed to not be actually anything mentioned. They will have found something that needs fixing but without over-the-air updates, have used the recal to fix the fix, but also to wrap it up in something the owner might find useful so as to disguise the true fix and so as to avoid the bad press from a "recall". The fact some critical module didn't have OTA updates originally is however rather significant, suggesting the model was rushed out the door originally....
Judging other people's projects by your own standards? Anyway if someone wants to do a stealth recall they'll just do it the normal way quietly during service.

And it wouldn't be the first change that was involved enough that older builds needed to plugged in for hours to do - repartitioning the main eMMC (to give more space for temporary update data funnily enough) was what nobbled someone else's easy shift between old and new standards as the regular onboard software updater couldn't do that and it needed to be done as a full forced reload.

Biggest motivation behind this seems to be the scope to upsell upgrades and features on the cars that have already gone out the door.

DonkeyApple

70,719 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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It could be that they've been taken by surprise by the number of customers who can't afford an iPhone so they've chucked in a load of stuff alongside the Android update so these customers aren't embarrassed?

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Slowlygettingit said:
Weirdly my colleague seems to get his PS2 updates at least 2 weeks before the rest of us - every time.
I always get mine very shortly after they’re released, which is not always the best way. 2.2 was a case in point, caused a lot of problems, eventually leading to Polestar pulling the update.