RE: 2023 Honda Civic Type R officially unveiled
RE: 2023 Honda Civic Type R officially unveiled
Thursday 21st July 2022

2023 Honda Civic Type R officially unveiled

The FK8 is gone. Long live the new FL5


There’s big news coming out of America. No, not Musk vs Twitter. Bigger even than that. You’ve heard the phrase ‘The king is dead, long live the king!’? Well, it’s fitting here. In November 2021 we said goodbye to the fantastic FK8 Honda Civic Type R. Now we’re welcoming it back, but, like Doctor Who, it's regenerated into the mostly new FL5.

At this very moment - assuming you were excited enough to set your alarm for 3am - Indycar driver Colt Herta and a select group of interested parties in Los Angles are unwrapping the 2023 Civic Type R – the sixth generation of the little high-revving VTEC wunderkind that first arrived 25 years ago.

"Even in this "year of the Honda SUV," it's great to be part of a brand that remains focused on the thrilling performance and joy of driving delivered by the all-new Civic Type R," noted Mike Kistemaker, assistant, vice president of Honda sales at American Honda. "Type R is about more than speed, power and handling. It's how a great car makes you feel that really matters and that's what the all-new Civic Type R is all about."

Amen to that, Mike. The old car did make you feel great. And if the FL5 can match it, most would consider that job done in a world of ever-increasing regulation. If it exceeds the FK8's talents then we may have a meltdown. It was still the best front-wheel-drive hot hatch you could buy on its last day on sale. The omens that the new model will be even better are good. Very good.

The FL5 has already beaten one benchmark set by the ultimate FK8, which was the 2021 Type R Limited Edition. In testing at Honda’s legendary Suzuka Circuit – back on the Formula 1 calendar this October for the first time since Covid struck, by the way – the FL5 set a new lap record for a front-wheel-drive car. It went round the full 3.6-mile Grand Prix figure-of-eight track in 2 minutes and 23.120 seconds. We also know the FL5 improved steering and suspension has been tuned and tested at the Nürburgring, because the launch video shows as much - although we don't have a production car time as yet.  

Nor do we know a number of the other finer details. But we know one of the biggies. Finally, we can tell you for sure that the 2.0-litre KC20 screamer is back. The proof is right there in the pictures with a shot of it under the bonnet. While the rest of the 2022 Civic range has gone hybrid, Honda has not let Type R fans down by diluting its legacy with any of that electrified nonsense. That does mean you shouldn't expect big gains in power or torque. Peak power is yet to be disclosed, but it's unlikely to be vastly more than the 320hp the last car made. We can see from the rev counter that maximum revs still sit at around 7,000rpm, so it's really down to how much they could turn up the boost and tweak the fuelling. The great news is that the engine is still paired with a six-speed manual, which, last time out, was arguably one of the best manual shifts on sale at any price. As before, it comes with rev-matching, for those that lack confidence in their heels and toes, and there’s a limited-slip diff to magic the torque to the road.

The new body is said to be lighter and more rigid than the FK8’s. It’s also longer, lower and wider but less draggy, so it slips through the air more easily. It’s also easier on the eye – well, these eyes at least. You still won’t miss it on the road, mind. That’s thanks to the muscular arches, large rear wing and deep, suitably aggressive bumpers. And there are still vents behind the front wheels that channel the air along the sides to the little aero flick-ups ahead of the rear wheels. At the rear, there’s the obvious diffuser with three signature central tailpipes poking out the middle.

The overall effect is smoother, cleaner and more harmonious. Unlike the last car, someone with a sympathetic eye was on hand to remove the designers pen at just the right time – to stop them doing too much designing. It comes in five sporty colour options: Historic Championship White, Rallye Red, Racing Blue Pearl, Crystal Black Pearl and Sonic Grey Pearl.

It’s a tidier looking car inside as well. Again, that’s because the latest Civic provides a better starting point in terms of its dashboard design and layout. Naturally, there are elements that jazz it up and differentiate this as the Type R. They include heavily bolstered red seats with matching red carpets. There’s also a neat honeycomb strip that runs most of the way along the dashboard – this mirrors the design of the front grille – and aluminium trim on the centre console, around the stubby, solid aluminium shifter. Even the steering wheel looks better. It's got a smaller hub and thinner spokes.

Behind that is a full digital instrument binnacle. This shows a track-focused screen, with a large, linear rev counter running along the top, change up lights and the current gear indicator in the middle. Along the lower half of the display there are various pressure and temperature readouts, flanked by a G-meter and lap timer. There’s also a second display option. This one is  centred around a couple of old-school round dials for the speedo and rev counter.

You’ll also notice the infotainment screen jutting out of the top of the dash. Nothing revolutionary there, but it's running improved software over the old car. And take a closer look. There’s a fabulous bit of news shown on the display itself. One of the few criticisms of the old car was its lack of customisable driving modes. Well, that’s been addressed because the display shows an individual mode. Although we cannot see the exact parameters you can adjust, the fact the schematic picture of the car shows engine, exhaust, steering and suspension is a good clue.

So that’s what we know so far. Not the whole picture, sure, but a lot more than we knew yesterday. More technical details and UK pricing will be released nearer to the launch, which is scheduled for autumn 2022. You can guarantee we'll let you know more the minute we find out and, it goes without saying, cannot wait to get our hands on one in the flesh.


 

 

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GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,566 posts

118 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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The Type R has grown up! Let's hope it's every bit as rewarding as the out going model. Something tells me it will be biggrin:

blue al

1,443 posts

189 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Well something tells me it has left factory with the wrong badge…
If someone showed me this 20 years ago as the new Honda for 2022
I would say it was an Accord, or if being kinder Perhaps a Teggy with lots middle age spread
Definitely not a Civic.

Dombilano

1,463 posts

85 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Cabin does look a more modern place to sit, and overall looks wise I'm impressed. The only thing that's irritating me is the brackets holding the rear wing on, my eyes want it to be flush to the bodywork

rodericb

8,908 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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donut media got to have a little peek at it: https://youtu.be/YpSYz_2sJq4

Pflanzgarten

7,683 posts

55 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Hard to complain about that.

Throttlebody

2,963 posts

84 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Nicely rounded. Getting a bit big now though.

mike74

3,687 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Dombilano said:
Cabin does look a more modern place to sit, and overall looks wise I'm impressed. The only thing that's irritating me is the brackets holding the rear wing on, my eyes want it to be flush to the bodywork
It does seem strange that they've toned down the styling to make the car look more subtle and mature overall, only to then stick on what looks like an after market/track car type rear wing.

GTEYE

2,504 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Definitely looks like it was designed for the USA, which isn’t surprising as Honda seem to have given up on Europe.

Not surprising when they sell 1.3m cars annually in the USA and only 120,000 in the whole of Europe.

Arsecati

2,785 posts

147 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I definitely think I'd have FAR more fun on my local mountain roads than that new 911 Sport Classic thing.

Lexmaster

65 posts

64 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I like it, from the front AND also finally from the rear, it reminds me of the FD2 a lilttle bit.
Great to see so many japanese performance cars being released at this day and age (although the new Z is not coming to europe frown )

wpa1975

14,784 posts

144 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I really like that, very subtle apart from the rear wing which looks a little aftermarket.

Petrolism

462 posts

136 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Better looking than the FK8 was.

swanny71

3,590 posts

239 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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First time in almost 20 years that I’d like to own a brand new Civic Type R.

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Petrolism said:
Better looking than the FK8 was.
Couldn't agree more - it's so much less of an eyesore! I actually really like it and as someone else said it's matured very nicely.

Motorola

55 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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“While the rest of the 2022 Civic range has gone hybrid, Honda has not let Type R fans down by diluting its legacy with any of that electrified nonsense.”

🥱 I would like less of this nonsense please. I don’t see PH doing EV reviews bashing ICE as nonsense. I’m not against a full ICE, but pedalling this line lowers the tone and to me damages the author’s credibility. Harris seems happy with the advantages of a hybrid.

Anyway, love the look and sound of the Type-R but would also love it to be a hatchback.

Ursicles

1,091 posts

272 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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If that rear wing was a delete option, that would be quite handsome!!

A500leroy

8,549 posts

148 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Looks bland, like someone went to Halfords, brought a carbon effect rear wing and plonked it on the boot of an Accord.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Maybe they will do a sportline version with smaller wheels and spoiler?

Im glad Honda got their sensible boots on again regarding the styling. Quite like the new HRV and Jazz too. Suits the brand.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st July 07:29

redroadster

1,886 posts

262 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Hopefully in flesh looks better than pics outside looks like a big proton, inside fine but looking at above comments lots don't want a suped up looking car, fair enough if you like golf's.

Twinair

1,045 posts

172 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Ha ha…! That front shot, low and side angle, er, Rover SD1…??!!

‘More Rovah’ Bay-beh…!!’

3 rear belts now?

Funny, a site called Pistonheads, having a preference for ICE’s in the copy write up… and someone being offended by that? My feelings, my feelings… Me, me, me…!!!

Lol - well done Honda - please make enough of them to go around :-))