RE: Land Rover Classic launches Defender V8 Trophy II
RE: Land Rover Classic launches Defender V8 Trophy II
Thursday 28th July 2022

Land Rover Classic launches Defender V8 Trophy II

Missed out on a classic V8 Defender first time around? Try Trophy take two...


Truth be told, ‘Defender V8 Trophy II’ conjured up images of a new Defender V8 given the full rally raid overhaul. No, there isn’t the motorsport heritage to tap into and, yes, it would cost as much as a helicopter, but a new Defender Trophy would make a nice pair with the 25 cars first announced 18 months ago.  

Alas, no. Defender V8 Trophy II is a lot like what went before, which will sound like great news to anyone who missed out in 2021, and a little strange to those wondering why Land Rover Classic is still making £200k new (old) Defenders. Clearly the restomod game still has some life in it for the manufacturer's icon, even with the Works V8 cars that preceded the Trophy and the glut of tuning specialists out there.  

To the matter at hand. As before, this Defender Trophy makes 405hp and 379lb ft from a 5.0-litre V8, mated to the eight-speed automatic gearbox. No official performance figures have been issued, though given the 2018 Works V8 could reach 60mph in less than six seconds we’d expect similar speed from Trophy II. And similarly white knuckles from anyone holding on at the time. That said Land Rover Classic is promising a ‘comprehensive rebuild’ for each car, with improvements to the brakes, steering and suspension to best manage that power.  

The Trophy will still off-road like a Defender, too, with 500mm of wading depth, an external roll bar, a winch, an expedition roof rack and even an LED light bar. Land Rover is keen to show off the off-road potential and heritage with the camouflage livery for the Trophy II, which includes 23 locations that ‘have played a part in Land Rover’s illustrious off-roading and exploration adventures over more than 70 years.’ So that’s Camel Trophy, G4 Challenge, The First Overland and so on. As with the 2021 Trophy - noticing the theme? - buyers of the Trophy II will be invited to take part in a three-day off-road competition with their cars and fellow customers.  

In fact, the biggest difference for the second Trophy will be the availability of a 110 Double Cab pickup model for full Baja kudos. And, all cynicism aside for a sec, a V8 Trophy pickup does sound pretty cool. Which Land Rover is banking on, of course, as just five of those will be built alongside 10 of the 90 bodystyle and another 10 of the bigger 110 Station Wagons. As you might expect, all will be built from 2012-16 Defenders sourced and rebuilt by Classic, with an interior overhaul that includes leather Recaros, an upgraded infotainment system and an Elliot Brown clock (with a watch for the owner, too).  

So it’s the same again but ever so slightly different for the Defender Trophy II; if people want them and are going to buy them, then why not? With prices starting at £225,000 for a 90 - heaven knows what the pick up will be - it looks set to be a lucrative endeavour as well. MD of JLR Special Vehicle Operations Michael van der Sande said each of the 25 Trophys is “a labour of love, sourced, assembled and remastered by our passionate specialist team”. Finally, fear not if you aren’t able to get one of these Defenders; not only are 1,000 Elliot Brown watches inspired by the Trophy II going on sale, Land Rover Classic will also launch ‘Trophy-influenced Genuine Accessories’ for Defenders later in the year. And they ought to cost a bit less than £200,000.


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drpep

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1,761 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Chelsea-appropriate naming aside, this is the real deal. Keep the seats unless they can be had in black though.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,666 posts

174 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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At least it doesn’t have a snorkel. And wondering if you can bin the light bar. And get in Keswick Green with steel Wolfs. Otherwise, here for the predictable ‘How much??? rofl ‘ comments.

aarondbs

883 posts

177 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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With that name it's definitely one for the footballers gnarlier 2nd wife.

I do quite like it though and I know you can't complain about the price as that's what people will pay but I'm sure the same effect could be had for less.

Vee12V

1,411 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).

Evo Sean

315 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

265 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Evo Sean said:
Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?
Because it's a bit pathetic - surprised they haven't pulled the "continuation" crap out of thin air.

jhonn

1,707 posts

180 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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It's a pretty shrewd move by Land Rover - buy back their vehicles on the second-hand market, a bit of refurbishing, raid the parts bins for tasty upgrades and pass on back to an ever-hungry market for (another) huge profit.

The Defender's modular construction helps with this of course, however I'm surprised they haven't started doing this more with early Discoveries and L322 Range Rovers as well; I'm sure that there would be a market for them too.

cowboyengineer

1,419 posts

145 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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SidewaysSi said:
Evo Sean said:
Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?
Because it's a bit pathetic - surprised they haven't pulled the "continuation" crap out of thin air.
Company in trying to make money shocker!

WY86

1,555 posts

58 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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clicked linked... checked price... laughed

Frimley111R

19,387 posts

265 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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cowboyengineer said:
SidewaysSi said:
Evo Sean said:
Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?
Because it's a bit pathetic - surprised they haven't pulled the "continuation" crap out of thin air.
Company in trying to make money shocker!
Wait! What? They are making money from these? A company? Making money from its products? I'm shocked. Someone pick me up off the floor

camel_landy

5,514 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Frimley111R said:
Wait! What? They are making money from these? A company? Making money from its products? I'm shocked. Someone pick me up off the floor
I know, ridiculous, isn't it. There's me thinking LandRover was a charity, whose sole function was to make cars which pander to their 'enthusiasts'. rofl

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DP14

381 posts

70 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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I wonder what buyers of the first batch think of this.

nismo48

7,221 posts

238 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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cowboyengineer said:
Company in trying to make money shocker!
biglaughbiglaugh

sidesauce

2,967 posts

249 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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SidewaysSi said:
Evo Sean said:
Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?
Because it's a bit pathetic - surprised they haven't pulled the "continuation" crap out of thin air.
And that's why you will never be JLR's (or indeed any other car manufacturer) CEO.

pquinn

7,167 posts

77 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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sidesauce said:
SidewaysSi said:
Evo Sean said:
Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?
Because it's a bit pathetic - surprised they haven't pulled the "continuation" crap out of thin air.
And that's why you will never be JLR's (or indeed any other car manufacturer) CEO.
The questions should be

a) is there money in it
b) is there more money in this than in using the same resources on something else.

It might be profitable and it might even be good but is it sensible use of space/equipment/time/staff compared to all the other things you could be doing?

I'm sure little projects like this are fun but if you strip away the marketing aspect a lot of the time they're a non core distraction, expensive to do and ripe for culling.

romac

608 posts

177 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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pquinn said:
The questions should be

a) is there money in it
b) is there more money in this than in using the same resources on something else.

It might be profitable and it might even be good but is it sensible use of space/equipment/time/staff compared to all the other things you could be doing?

I'm sure little projects like this are fun but if you strip away the marketing aspect a lot of the time they're a non core distraction, expensive to do and ripe for culling.
This is probably why "Land Rover Classics" is a separate company, and can fold when the carcass is picked bare without impinging on the parent company.

Me? I'd much rather have a Grenadier! winkgetmecoat

DP14

381 posts

70 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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pquinn said:
sidesauce said:
SidewaysSi said:
Evo Sean said:
Vee12V said:
Stop beating a dead horse. Cynical money grab at best. (oh, and I even like old Defenders).
Pretty sure attempting to make money is the name of the game for JLR (and every manufacturer). Why not pull on every lever you can to make that happen?
Because it's a bit pathetic - surprised they haven't pulled the "continuation" crap out of thin air.
And that's why you will never be JLR's (or indeed any other car manufacturer) CEO.
The questions should be

a) is there money in it
b) is there more money in this than in using the same resources on something else.

It might be profitable and it might even be good but is it sensible use of space/equipment/time/staff compared to all the other things you could be doing?

I'm sure little projects like this are fun but if you strip away the marketing aspect a lot of the time they're a non core distraction, expensive to do and ripe for culling.
Given that JLR just made a £500m-odd first quarter loss while Stellantis has just made record profits and VW, BMW, Mercedes et al. are also making decent money suggests 'non core distraction' is apt.

Cold

16,742 posts

121 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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DP14 said:
Given that JLR just made a £500m-odd first quarter loss while Stellantis has just made record profits and VW, BMW, Mercedes et al. are also making decent money suggests 'non core distraction' is apt.
I'd suggest that perhaps it isn't the LR bit that's causing the red ink to flow.

GTEYE

2,507 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Cold said:
DP14 said:
Given that JLR just made a £500m-odd first quarter loss while Stellantis has just made record profits and VW, BMW, Mercedes et al. are also making decent money suggests 'non core distraction' is apt.
I'd suggest that perhaps it isn't the LR bit that's causing the red ink to flow.
You have to wonder, given virtually all car makers are making record profits and JLR are still turning in an annualised £2bn loss - WTF is going on?

This LR project smacks of sideshows the likes of which MG Rover used to play…

BlackandWhite

391 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Och, gie’s peace!