Toyota to leave UK if Government bans hybrids
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Lordbenny said:
It's logical really What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
bristolracer said:
It's logical really
What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
And where Toyota lead, others are sure to follow. I'd still like to know how you can survive without a petrol or diesel powered vehicle in parts of the UK - some islands aren't on the national grid, don't have recharging stations and are probably not going to given the huge cost of creating the infrastructure to support all electric.What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
grumpyscot said:
And where Toyota lead, others are sure to follow. I'd still like to know how you can survive without a petrol or diesel powered vehicle in parts of the UK - some islands aren't on the national grid, don't have recharging stations and are probably not going to given the huge cost of creating the infrastructure to support all electric.
Existing ICE vehicles aren't being seized and destroyed.grumpyscot said:
bristolracer said:
It's logical really
What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
And where Toyota lead, others are sure to follow. I'd still like to know how you can survive without a petrol or diesel powered vehicle in parts of the UK - some islands aren't on the national grid, don't have recharging stations and are probably not going to given the huge cost of creating the infrastructure to support all electric.What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
sxmwht said:
grumpyscot said:
And where Toyota lead, others are sure to follow. I'd still like to know how you can survive without a petrol or diesel powered vehicle in parts of the UK - some islands aren't on the national grid, don't have recharging stations and are probably not going to given the huge cost of creating the infrastructure to support all electric.
Existing ICE vehicles aren't being seized and destroyed.grumpyscot said:
And where Toyota lead, others are sure to follow. I'd still like to know how you can survive without a petrol or diesel powered vehicle in parts of the UK - some islands aren't on the national grid, don't have recharging stations and are probably not going to given the huge cost of creating the infrastructure to support all electric.
Scot here - what islands aren't on the grid? I'm struggling to think of one - are there are islands that have a car ferry, but don't have mains electricity?Genuine question.
nebpor said:
Scot here - what islands aren't on the grid? I'm struggling to think of one - are there are islands that have a car ferry, but don't have mains electricity?
Genuine question.
Fair isle only got 24 hour power in 2018. Its not on the grid. It works off wind, solar and battrries.Genuine question.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45812273.am...
sherman said:
Fair isle only got 24 hour power in 2018. Its not on the grid. It works off wind, solar and battrries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45812273.am...
...and is 3 miles long so you probably wouldn't need to charge your EV very often https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45812273.am...
RizzoTheRat said:
sherman said:
Fair isle only got 24 hour power in 2018. Its not on the grid. It works off wind, solar and battrries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45812273.am...
...and is 3 miles long so you probably wouldn't need to charge your EV very often https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45812273.am...
nebpor said:
Why would car manufacturers weigh into democratically elected governments wishes? Not sure that would be a great marketing campaign.
Are you serious?https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=automotive+indus...
grumpyscot said:
bristolracer said:
It's logical really
What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
And where Toyota lead, others are sure to follow. I'd still like to know how you can survive without a petrol or diesel powered vehicle in parts of the UK - some islands aren't on the national grid, don't have recharging stations and are probably not going to given the huge cost of creating the infrastructure to support all electric.What would be the point of manufacturing something within a country that has banned your product?
It's not so much a case of getting from what the average Brit considers A to B - the average Scot north of the central belt drives A-D,E,F or G. Moreover, farming, crofting, small holding and of course out-doorsy activities are more common the further you get from Glasgow and Edinburgh. SUVs and double cab pickups are everywhere towing trailers about. Tradesmen travel further distances in their vans.
If all that weren't enough, the low population density means that in the northern 2/3rds of Scotland all the towns have 3-phase power to substations like any other place but the many thousands of more rural dwellers are on extended single phase supplies which often stretch a long way and SSEN is supposed to keep the person closest to the tie-in of that branch within their upper voltage limit whilst a couple of houses a couple of miles away at the far end of the branch are charging their electric cars while the tumble dryers are going and the dinner's in the electric over (because hardly anyone in rural Scotland has a gas supply).
Honestly, hybrids make so much more sense up here than pure battery electric for enough people that the choice of them being available would be a very good thing. I'm not sure when the last time anything we needed wasn't just washed away with what best suits city dwellers hundreds of miles south though so I assume we'll be ignored and have the fallout of stupid legislation fall on us again this time.
Clivey said:
That's a fair shout, but there is lobbying in private (generally speaking) and there is publicly pushing back though. The best way to support cancellation of net zero is to vote for politicians who don't support net zero. I'm generally a supporter of environmentally friendly policy, but given the war in Ukraine I'd say all bets are currently off the table - lets see what winter brings and whether that changes the political climate
SidewaysSi said:
True. They should change their Prius or Auris for an ID3. Smart move..
Absolutely. If you're going to drive a boring white goods box, why drive one that's more polluting than it needs to be? And who cares if they don't have a boring little petrol engine and a CVT box?otolith said:
SidewaysSi said:
True. They should change their Prius or Auris for an ID3. Smart move..
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