RE: Charger SRT Daytona previews EV Hellcat
RE: Charger SRT Daytona previews EV Hellcat
Thursday 18th August 2022

Charger SRT Daytona previews EV Hellcat

Dodge's iconic supercharged V8 isn't long for this world - its replacement doesn't look so bad, though... 


There’s been more happening at Dodge in the past few days than the past few years. The Hornet - its take on the Alfa Tonale - is Dodge’s first all-new car in a decade; the Durango SRT Hellcat will return for one last hurrah in 2023; it was announced that Dodge dealerships would help third parties make Challenger convertibles; and a whole new suite of Dodge Direct Connection Performance Parts was launched, for those that want their last-of-the-line Hellcats (also announced earlier this week) to have a little more pep. And all of that was before this, a ‘perception-shattering concept that reimagines what a BEV can be’. It’s been some Dodge Speed Week, put it that way.  

This is the Charger Daytona SRT Concept, a car that previews what Dodge’s muscle car future might look like without a combustion engine. And what a stunner it is - even without ‘Charger’ written on it anywhere you just know what this is, with the iconic light silhouette, narrow glasshouse and pumped-up haunches. The concept even gets something called an R-Wing (the scoop in the front end above the light bar) as a homage to the original Charger Daytona, keeping the blunt profile (Dodge’s words, not ours) while helping aerodynamics. Which will assist range, of course. 

A historical badge has also been resurrected for this car, the ‘Fratzog’ logo seen on the wheels and at each end first seen in Dodge muscle cars from 1962-1976. According to its maker, this car ‘features inspired design that takes on the challenge of revolutionising the look of a BEV while offering subtle nods to the brand’s muscle car past’, one that ‘muscles aside the boring BEV paradigm and replaces it with an electrified vehicle unlike any on the road today’. You won’t find us disagreeing with any of that sentiment. 

But making an EV look cool is considerably less than half the battle. Because a Charger like this must replace a car powered by an unforgettable V8, and that’s not an easy task. Undoubtedly aware of the challenge it faces, Dodge is using the Daytona to introduce new tech that aims to enliven the EV experience. The first is something called a Fratzonic chambered exhaust; not only does it have an appropriately silly name for a muscle car accessory, it’s also going to ensure an electric Charger is anything but silent. The amplifier and tuning chamber make a ‘one-of-a-kind’ performance sound that’s as loud as a Hellcat. No, seriously - Dodge says this is an EV that ‘voices a 126dB roar’. And we’d all be curious to hear that, right?  

In addition, this Charger is fitted with something called an eRupt transmission that works with the exhaust to make the best noise possible. Described as a multi-speed transmission ‘with electro-mechanical shifting delivers distinctive shift points, throwing shoulders into seatbacks in true Dodge style’. Which, again, doesn’t sound entirely possible with an electric vehicle, but we’re nothing if not curious to experience the reality. Because there’s not an EV out there that wouldn’t benefit from the sort of theatre and entertainment this tech looks set to bring.  

The Charger isn’t just gimmicks on top of an outdated platform, either. The Daytona is underpinned by a new ‘Banshee’ architecture, with a system voltage of 800 volts like a Porsche Taycan. That should mean a lighter, faster-charging electric car. This concept is also all-wheel drive, which ought to make for some incredible quarter miles time. 

Perhaps just as important as all that is the effort Dodge has gone to in making this concept seem like a production-ready car. This is not some pie-in-the-sky idea to appease legislators - there is going to be a Charger that looks like this at some point soon. See inside for proof. It’s just like a Dodge interior, except it isn’t - because it’s good. The cabin isn’t full of daft concept car features that’ll never make production, instead previewing what the next generation of Dodge’s eMuscle cars might actually look like. Notable features include a steering wheel mode button for Auto, Sport, Track and Drag settings, wraparound lighting that will change with those modes and proper pistol-grip shifter like an old-school muscle car. How it will all feel in reality is a different matter, but the Daytona looks great for the moment.  

Dodge CEO Time Kuniskis is bullish about the Daytona’s prospects, suggesting it’s capable of nothing less than redefining American muscle: “Dodge is about muscle, attitude and performance, and the brand carries that chip on its shoulder and into the BEV segment through a concept loaded with patents, innovations, and performance features that embody the electrified muscle of tomorrow.” The Charger’s future arguably never looked so bright. 


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Evil.soup

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4,047 posts

236 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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What a fantastic looking thing!!

It is a bit of a sad thing to see though as a petrol head.

Yes, it will make noises like the real thing, but it is a bit like going to watch Guns and Posies tribute band, it just isn't the same is it...

ZAndy

115 posts

224 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Cyberpunk Dodge is hot.

Yeah, no V8, etc etc, but as its own thing, at least this is definitely offering something new to the EV market.

A great reaction to the neo-traditional Scandi-chic of EV design.

MrScrot

77 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Looks awesome. Could have added another 6 inches to the rear - here is a quick photoshop.

Lil_Red_GTV

808 posts

174 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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That may be the best looking car I've ever seen, period. I actually like the shorter overhangs. Still recognisably a Charger, but with a nod to the longer wheelbases of modern EVs.

I wonder if it will be affordable (for Americans, obviously we'll get shafted one way or another).

Frimley111R

19,370 posts

265 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Coolest EV by miles! The future is suddenly looking a lot better.

McAndy

16,852 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Bloody excellent effort! clap Anybody who continues to say that all EVs will be the same and characterless are just self-suffering ostriches.

I'm interested to find out how they translate the muscle car character into the driving experience. Given the lengths they've gone to to preserve the visual character, I have hope! smile

parabolica

7,018 posts

215 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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I did think, reading the post yesterday about Dodge killing off its ICE by 2023, that they would probably reinvent the Charger as a EV - and here we are.

But that is a very nice looking thing; really like some of these synthy-retro concepts that are coming out at the moment.

Boom78

1,522 posts

79 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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That’s stunning!!!!!

untakenname

5,368 posts

223 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Can't see how they will be able to generate a 126db of 'roar' from the driveline alone without using a speaker?

Tesla must be very worried now the incumbents are bringing desirable EV's online, the Tesla Roadster still seems to be vapourware and the Rivian truck has taken most the hype and presales away from the Cybertruck.

Shuff4

223 posts

118 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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I think it looks great!

But all the noise from an EV?! Odd one but suppose it’s what the market is wanting.

J4CKO

47,012 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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untakenname said:
Can't see how they will be able to generate a 126db of 'roar' from the driveline alone without using a speaker?
Football cards in the spokes of all four wheels ?

But, my god, thought the normal Neo Muscle cars were good lookers, but they have really made improvements on what was already a handsome car, really is one of the best looking cars I have ever seen, special mention for those lovely wheels as well.

Sounds like they are adding the flaws back in, which is what I have always said about EV's, notionally quieter and more efficient is "better" but becomes anodyne, and we are all accustomed to and enjoy the noise, the vibrations, the smells and the gear changes. If they can add that back in and it seem natural and not too contrived then they may have nailed it here.

Electric motors are fantastic for lifts, moving water and other applications were ultimate efficiency and quietness are key, they are great for moving a car but not for promoting any sensory stimulation beyond G force at the moment, which is great if you arent bothered but seems like a lot of us are bothered.


Slowlygettingit

947 posts

72 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Agree with several of the previous posters. That is a fine looking thing. It certainly appeals to my inner red neck.

TBF a lot of current EV’s are muscle cars. FaF in a straight line - weight compromised on on horizontal and vertical curves. Obviously the noise remains an issue. I am not a fan of false ice sounds nor stupid space shop noises.

Hoping ev’s will allow simple rhd production and we might see these over here at sensible prices.

McAndy

16,852 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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J4CKO said:
...but seems like a lot of us are bothered.
On PH, yes. I suspect we're in a minority once stepping out into broader life, however.

Slowlygettingit said:
Hoping ev’s will allow simple rhd production and we might see these over here at sensible prices.
A good point!

fantheman80

2,677 posts

80 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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McAndy said:
Bloody excellent effort! clap Anybody who continues to say that all EVs will be the same and characterless are just self-suffering ostriches.

I'm interested to find out how they translate the muscle car character into the driving experience. Given the lengths they've gone to to preserve the visual character, I have hope! smile
To be fair muscle cars are quick in a straight-line...and cack on bends......isn't that exactly what an EV is also! wink

Love it. And fair play to them for at least trying to address the sound issue, I hope there is a dirty sub that shakes the ground

Rogue86

2,011 posts

176 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Looks amazing, but I'm hoping the awful sound it makes doing the rounds on social media at the moment is just a product of a poor video/mic. Love the design though.

emix

156 posts

148 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Didn't they just say the big V8s will live on in the next iteration of the Charger/Challenger?

jbforce10

509 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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MrScrot said:


Looks awesome. Could have added another 6 inches to the rear - here is a quick photoshop.
But why? I'm assuming it's a 5m long car already without the extension.

gruntmonster

228 posts

248 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Wowzers!…bloody love that !

jbforce10

509 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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I'm not too familiar with muscle cars, but why is this being named a Charger and not a Challenger?
Traditionally, isn't the Charger their 4 door sedan and the Challenger the 2 door coupe?

RudeDog

1,670 posts

205 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Available in RHD?