RE: Golf '20 Years' the fastest R-badged VW ever
RE: Golf '20 Years' the fastest R-badged VW ever
Tuesday 23rd August 2022

Golf '20 Years' the fastest R-badged VW ever

Or it is on the Nordschleife at least, where the 333hp Golf R has outpaced its predecessor


Volkswagen told us it was sprinkling celebratory confetti on the current Golf R back in May. The headline (‘most powerful Golf of all time’) made for better reading than the small print (the “20 Years” edition would actually only earn an additional 13hp over the standard R), and it’s a similar story with the car’s just-announced Nordschleife lap time. 

On the face of it, 7:47.31 is plenty brisk. VW says it betters the previous Golf R’s lap time by 4 seconds, making the anniversary edition the ‘fastest Volkswagen R ever on the Nürburgring-Nordschleife’. Which has a nice ring to it. No match for the Megane R.S Trophy-R or the Audi RS3, of course, but you wouldn’t expect it to be: one is much lighter and specially adapted for the job, and the other is endowed with 400hp. 

The problem - if we want to call it that - is that VW can’t declare the “20 Years” the quickest Golf ever on the Nordschleife, because it isn’t. Not quite. The limited-edition Mk7 GTI Clubsport S retains that title with the 7.47.19 lap it set back in 2016. Good news for anyone partial to lightweight, front-wheel-drive, manually geared, three-door hot hatches (i.e. all of us); somewhat less good news if your job is marketing the ‘most powerful Golf of all time’. 

Still, what’re a few fractions between friends? VW can still point to an ‘evolution of the most powerful Golf versions over a period of 20 years’ with some validity - not least because it has also confirmed a 4.6-second-0-to-62mph time for the special edition model, making it (by 0.1 seconds) the quickest Golf R yet in a straight line. VW is also at pains to stress that the car gets the R-Performance Pack, Driving Dynamics Manager and R-Performance Torque Vectoring as standard. Which means you get the more oversteery modes. 

These include the ‘Special’ setting that was perfected on the Nordschleife by none other than Benny Leuchter - the man responsible for the “20 Years” lap time. “With this car, I can drive here on the Nürburgring and the next stop is then the baker’s or the DIY store. The vehicle is really an all-rounder that can do everything,” noted the tamed touring car driver. 

Needless to say, that is the point of the Golf R, and the anniversary car’s tweaked seven-speed DSG and its preloaded turbocharger are merely the icing on a very familiar cake. The same could be said for the car’s lap time, in fact, which won’t be nearly as consequential to its core audience as the Clubsport S’s front-drive record was in the previous decade. Of likely greater significance is the fact that VW has confirmed that it will limit the model’s production period to ‘approximately one year’. So maybe don’t hang around if the “20 Years” had you at hello. 


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Piginapoke

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6,061 posts

216 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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VW should forget all of that and update the interior, which remains an eyesore.

Hol

9,316 posts

231 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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I test drove one when they came out back in 2016 as cheap leases and it reminded me a lot of the Impreza I had 15 years earlier as the performance is similar, but with 15 year newer technology and electronics.

amongst our current cars is a TTS with the exact same drivetrain.

I didn’t realise that Golf had been using the R badge for 20years though


GTEYE

2,505 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Hol said:
I test drove one when they came out back in 2016 as cheap leases and it reminded me a lot of the Impreza I had 15 years earlier as the performance is similar, but with 15 year newer technology and electronics.

amongst our current cars is a TTS with the exact same drivetrain.

I didn’t realise that Golf had been using the R badge for 20years though
It was first known as the R32 - first launched as the Mk4

SuperSonicSloth

158 posts

103 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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The mismatched mirrors just look wrong, like a quick fix from the scrap yard!

Jon_S_Rally

4,508 posts

119 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Article isn't the clearest. So it's basically an R with the performance pack and a bit more power? And the mirrors are a different colour?

A shame they didn't go a bit further after what they did with the CSS a few years ago. I think I'd have wanted to take the title of fastest Golf ever to give it a bit more marketing clout.

tiggyzak

204 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Not as much of an eyesore as the interior of the Ford Anglia , Austin Mini and Mk I Lotus Cortinas that I had back in the day. But, we weren't as fussy back then . We were just happy to have four wheels and an engine - and , a few other bits and bobs that go towards building a car of course !.

Simple things for simple people in simple times.

Piginapoke

Original Poster:

6,061 posts

216 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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tiggyzak said:
Not as much of an eyesore as the interior of the Ford Anglia , Austin Mini and Mk I Lotus Cortinas that I had back in the day. But, we weren't as fussy back then . We were just happy to have four wheels and an engine - and , a few other bits and bobs that go towards building a car of course !.

Simple things for simple people in simple times.
Ah, jumpers for goalposts

fantheman80

2,675 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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SuperSonicSloth said:
The mismatched mirrors just look wrong, like a quick fix from the scrap yard!
Exactly what i was thinking! "Sorry mate, we aint got a white one...go on then I will take the blue"

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,779 posts

129 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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I think the helmeted driver in the picture is trying to adjust the temperature - that probably added a minute to the lap time....

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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SuperSonicSloth said:
The mismatched mirrors just look wrong, like a quick fix from the scrap yard!
Front wheels are black and the rear ones are diamond cut. Looks odd.

epom

15,030 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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This thread will go well I'd say.

magic Monkey Dust

407 posts

67 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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I would consider one if it had two doors. The 4 door version just looks like a Dad wagon.
You could get the dealer to set the climate control to cold and then store it over the winter months.

T1berious

2,680 posts

186 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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MDMA . said:
SuperSonicSloth said:
The mismatched mirrors just look wrong, like a quick fix from the scrap yard!
Front wheels are black and the rear ones are diamond cut. Looks odd.
Pre Barried?

removed as I was in error! Doh!

Edited by T1berious on Tuesday 23 August 09:44

Jon_S_Rally

4,508 posts

119 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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T1berious said:
Pre Barried?

400bhp AWD and 4.6 to 62? that doesn't sound right?
It's not 400bhp, it's 330

fantheman80

2,675 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I think the helmeted driver in the picture is trying to adjust the temperature - that probably added a minute to the lap time....
clap

Maccmike8

1,612 posts

85 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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It has only just come to me what is aesthetically wrong with the mk8.
It looks thin and tall. Simply needs some swollen arches.

Earthdweller

19,653 posts

157 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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fantheman80 said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I think the helmeted driver in the picture is trying to adjust the temperature - that probably added a minute to the lap time....
clap
rofl

Robertb

3,917 posts

269 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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The Nurburgring is all very well, but can it handle the goat tracks that pass for a typical British road?

Wab1974uk

1,419 posts

58 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Piginapoke said:
VW should forget all of that and update the interior, which remains an eyesore.
Every time I see a MK8 Golf, I always think it's a backwards step.

And that interior !!!

My local dealer had a MK7 & MK8 Golf GTI sat next to each other. I asked my GF who knows pretty much nothing about cars (she's learning) to look at each car both inside and out and tell me which was the newer car. She swore blind the MK7 was the newer car, as the interior was far better designed and better materials. She preferred the exterior design on the MK7 too.

I wouldn't have one if I was given one. Well, I would, but it would be sold the next day so I could go out and buy something else instead.

NorthernChap

10 posts

61 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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More powerful car is faster than the old one it replaces.. outstanding.