RE: The Honda Civic Type R is 25 years old...
RE: The Honda Civic Type R is 25 years old...
Wednesday 24th August 2022

The Honda Civic Type R is 25 years old...

...time to doff the PH cap and consider the legacy of arguably the best front-drive hot hatch ever


There are two anniversaries for the Honda Civic. The most commemorative in terms of chronology is 50 years of continuous Civic production. That’s a long time in anyone’s book. Well done Honda. However, the most fabulous as far as PH is concerned, is 25 years of the Civic Type R. Half as long, maybe, but ten times as good.

Over six generations, the Civic Type R has evolved – of course it has. It’s gained turbocharging, which was a concern at the time, but has proved no impediment to the ethos of one of the greatest hot hatches of all time. And that’s what’s been a constant throughout each generation: top-notch Honda engineering, front-wheel drive, a manual gearbox and, best of all, a rev-happy VTEC motor. And red seats.

EK9 (1997-2000)

The Type R badge first arrived in 1992 on the Honda NSX Type R. It took a little longer for it to appear in the Civic, though. The EK9 arrived in 1997 but wasn’t offered here, sadly. That didn’t stop them from being imported, of course. Now, when we think of Japan we think of mass production, but the EK9’s 1.6-litre twin-cam VTEC motor was ported by hand.

And it produced a fantastic 118hp-per-litre as a result. It peaked at 185hp but what made it so special was that it kept on singing to 8,200rpm. This was just brilliant in a little hatchback, and so was its lightweight, seam-welded shell, which helped keep the thing ridged and the weight down to just 1050kg. It was an utterly joyous thing.

As with most Type Rs – certainly those sold in the JDM – it came with a limited-slip differential and unique suspension components to push the driving experience to another level. And with this being the original, it’s hard not to have a special place set aside for the wonderful EK9. Their rarity in the UK has only added to the allure – and the price. Here’s one up for £40k with 93k on the clock. 

EP3 (2001 – 2005)

Finally, a Honda Civic Type R we could officially buy in the UK. It was thanks to the rip-roaring success of the original car – not to mention the success other Japanese manufacturers had enjoyed selling performance cars in the UK – that led to the introduction of the EP3. Well, that and the fact it was manufactured in Swindon, which no doubt helped a little.

Along with a completely different look, the EP3 introduced a new engine with a larger capacity. The 2.0-litre K20 still forms the basis of the Type R today, up to an including the new, hotly awaited FL5. The K20 didn’t rev quite as high but still peaked at 8,100rpm. And it had more power at 200hp – but more importantly, more torque. For the Japanese market, the output was even higher, with power stretching to 215hp.

It stuck with the formula of a close-ratio six-speed gearbox although with that famously bent lever sprouting from the middle of the dashboard rather than the floor. A lot of high-tensile steel was used to make the chassis stiffer. There was also new suspension, with toe-control link strut at the front and reactive-link double-wishbone suspension at the rear. It also introduced electric power steering with a variable gear ratio, which was tweaked to make it quicker in 2003. The EP3 was hugely popular right up to its retirement, which makes supply plentiful: here’s a nice-looking 2004 example for £8k. 

FN2/FD2 (2007-2011)

There were two versions of the third-generation Civic Type R. The FD2 saloon was offered in Japan but here we stuck with the hatchback, now called the FN2. It isn’t everyone’s cup of tea; it lost some of the purity of the earlier versions and got bigger and heavier at the same time.

It also introduced a new chassis. This moved the fuel tank beneath the front seats to improve interior space, but in another retrograde step it ditched the double-wishbones at the rear in favour of a cheaper, simpler, torsion beam.

There was only a token increase in power for the K20 engine to compensate for the extra weight, too. And by ‘token’ we mean just one: a solitary, single horsepower, taking the peak to 201hp. This was even more galling because in JDM world the saloon had the K20A motor with 225hp. It also had lighter aluminium panels and a bonded, rather than a welded, chassis to save weight. Still, time’s a healer and the FN2 does look, to my eyes at least, very cool. Here’s one from 2008 that’s barely been run-in. 

FK2 (2015-2017)

Although the FN2 took a bashing because of its portliness, the fact was that cars were inevitably getting heavier. And there’s only so much you can do to counter that with increased power from an already peaky, high-revving engine. The solution for the fourth-gen FK2 was fitting a turbocharger to the K20 engine. This was a serious milestone in the Type R’s history.

Yes, the peak revs dropped down to 7,000rpm but there was still plenty of top-end explosiveness from the VTEC unit and so much more power: 310hp. And instead of scrabbling about trying to generate torque from atmospheric conditions, having the turbo forcing air into its cylinders had a dramatic effect on that as well. It shot to 295lb ft and was now available from 2,500rpm.

To tame such feistiness in a front-drive car, Honda introduced its Dual Axis Strut Suspension paired with a limited-slip differential to counter the torque steer. It worked, but it also needed some serious brakes, so the FK2 came with 351mm Brembo discs at the front. Anyone who’s driven an FK2 at a track day will know what an accomplished thing it is, and it was also a highly effective Touring car, racking up titles around the world. Its short life span means there aren’t as many about as you might think: here’s a lightly used example from 2017 for just shy of £27k. 

FK8 (2017-2022)

As brilliant as the FK2 was - and it really was - it had a few issues on the comfort front. The ride was quite harsh, it was very noisy thanks to the boom from the exhaust, and the driving position was, well, a bit rubbish. It was too high. So when Honda claimed that the FK8 would be softer and more easy-going there was, naturally, a sharp intake of breath. Would it be too soft?

But immediately after it was launched the world breathed out again and smiled. Up until this point, everyone claimed that the Golf R was the most comfortable hot hatch you could buy. Well, not anymore. With the FK8’s dampers in Comfort mode it was sublime. And a lot of the boominess on motorways had gone, plus the driving position was just about perfect.

At the same time, absolutely none of the old car’s dynamic brilliance had faded. It was even better. With added downforce and a near-flat underfloor, the cornering speeds it developed were supercar-shaming. And even though power was up just a little to 320hp, this thing was fast in a straight line. Once it was rolling, it would outgun a Focus RS through the gears. The FK8 was an utter joy and got even better with the final Limited Edition. You’ll pay mega money for that, but a nicely cared for standard example can be had for less than £30k. 

FL5 (2022-)

Naturally, we haven’t driven the FL5, yet, but our man Cam has been driven in it. There’s a video of him having a passenger ride if you haven’t seen it already. The upshot is, the FL5 looks to be even better than the FK8 in terms of performance, but, crucially for many, it solves a few more problems associated with ownership. 

Specifically, the Civic Type R now has an infotainment system you can use, an interior to be proud of and exterior styling that you don’t have to hide in the garage. It’s still proving divisive because some are suggesting it’s gone a little boring – but what it isn’t, is offensive. And that’s likely to make a difference when it comes to UK sales. 

There are other wonders to look forward to as well. A minor blight on the old FK8 was that you couldn’t set up the driving modes individually. Well, now you can, which means you can have the suspension, steering and drivetrain in the mode that suits you and the road you’re on best. It sounds very much, then, that after 25 years of refining, the FL5 could just be the perfect Type R. Here's hoping, eh?


See every Honda Civic Type R for sale

Author
Discussion

GreatScott2016

Original Poster:

2,576 posts

119 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Never owned one or actually driven one either! Marmite looks aside, can't help thinking I've missed out here.

Jon_S_Rally

4,508 posts

119 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
A bit weird to not look at the FD2 in any more detail, as it's probably one of the coolest of the Civic Type-R back catalogue.

EK9 has always appealed to me, but the FN2 seems the best value option at the moment. People criticise it, but they seem pretty capable, especially with a few upgrades. I'd have one over an EP3 to be honest.

Sion111R

424 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all

Don’t overlook the FD2R if you are thinking of going down the Civic route. Absolutely love mine.

The Rotrex Kid

35,078 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Had my EP3 8 years now. I wanted one when I first saw one in 2002 in a Honda showroom. These cars with a few changes are superb value and great all rounders.


Tickle

6,506 posts

235 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
As said, very surprised no FD2 in the list, considered one of the best.

I really missed the boat on an EK9, it's the hot hatch that I should have owned at some point. On the rare occasion I see one they always get a double take with an air of regret. Perfect hot hatch recipe for me, if it's similar and as engaging as my old DC2 but in a smaller package it's got it all.

fantheman80

2,675 posts

80 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Had a face lift Ep3 back in 04 for 6 years, have had my Fk8 for 5 and have an 'expression of interest' deposit with the dealer for the FL5. Get under your skin, completely different proposition to a golf R, S3 or AMG35 etc... and I am partial to a red seat.

Type R Tom

4,334 posts

180 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
I had a 6 month old FN2 in 2009, cost £14k. Would love the current one but unfortunately wages haven't kept up with inflation.

For me the FN2 was the perfect car at the time, fun to drive and could carry 2 bike with wheels on when seats down.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
I bought an fn2 over an ep3 for a few reasons - much much cheaper (like 2 to 3 times cheaper), i love the heads up dash, and it just looks so good in red. Also i had a normal civic of the ep3 gen before and although a superb car it was very tinny and i never really liked the looks.

Maybe the ep3 would have been slighly more fun, i dont know, but the fn2 puts a huge smile on my face every time i drive it and i dont really want it to be faster - as with the mx5s i had before the fun is in finding a twisty road and being at high revs etc... My kit cars have been a lot faster but it never really translated into more fun, just more holding back.

cerb4.5lee

45,088 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
GreatScott2016 said:
Never owned one or actually driven one either! Marmite looks aside, can't help thinking I've missed out here.
Same. One of my mates had his EP3 for 15 years and he just recently sold it for a MK4 Golf GTi anniversary...he doesn't stop moaning about how boring the Golf is, and he misses the EP3 big time for sure.

I have huge respect for all of the generations of these, and I'm not really a big FWD fan either.

TO73074E

502 posts

58 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
I've owned my FN2 for 7 years and have loved it. Along with the FD2 it's the last NA Type-R and the engine is superb (although the FD2 engine is better). It's reliable, has loads of space and it's fun to drive. I have kept mine completely standard and it can still surprise a lot of more powerful cars on a twisty B road.

I may just keep it forever.

NAAHD

236 posts

56 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
A bit like most type R owners biggrin

Hippea

3,983 posts

100 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Sion111R said:

Don’t overlook the FD2R if you are thinking of going down the Civic route. Absolutely love mine.
I really like these, are they a realistic daily? I’m not talking high mileage, 8k a year 99% B roads but in all weathers

Skyrocket21

789 posts

73 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
The Rotrex Kid said:
Had my EP3 8 years now. I wanted one when I first saw one in 2002 in a Honda showroom. These cars with a few changes are superb value and great all rounders.

Just a cheeky intercooler, EP3 is a great car.

Jon_S_Rally

4,508 posts

119 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
No mention of the FN2 Mugen either. For shame.

Sion111R

424 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Hippea said:
I really like these, are they a realistic daily? I’m not talking high mileage, 8k a year 99% B roads but in all weathers
Yes. Especially with the B road bias. They can be wearing on a long motorway stint. Mechanicals very reliable - but you will need to be mindful about rust. Most will have been treated with an anti corrosion product upon import but you should budget for an annual check/top up.

Sion111R

424 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Skyrocket21 said:
Just a cheeky intercooler, EP3 is a great car.
If you like a cheeky intercooler, you may like this!!

Ultrafunkula

1,022 posts

136 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
I always wondered why they didn't supercharge the FK2, surely that would have been closer to the NA feel of the previous VTEC engines than a turbo?

The Rotrex Kid

35,078 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Sion111R said:
Skyrocket21 said:
Just a cheeky intercooler, EP3 is a great car.
If you like a cheeky intercooler, you may like this!!
Snap (kinda) I think your photo is on a DC5?


mooseracer

2,805 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
cerb4.5lee said:
GreatScott2016 said:
Never owned one or actually driven one either! Marmite looks aside, can't help thinking I've missed out here.
Same. One of my mates had his EP3 for 15 years and he just recently sold it for a MK4 Golf GTi anniversary...he doesn't stop moaning about how boring the Golf is, and he misses the EP3 big time for sure.

I have huge respect for all of the generations of these, and I'm not really a big FWD fan either.
Having owned a Mk4 Anniversary I can safely say your mate is a loon. Did no-one warn him!?

Fermit

13,240 posts

131 months

Wednesday 24th August 2022
quotequote all
Maybe opening a can of worms with this one. Yes, they're good, but they're not arguably the 'best front wheel drive hot hatch ever'