RE: Agate grey Porsche 911 Speedster for sale
RE: Agate grey Porsche 911 Speedster for sale
Tuesday 30th August 2022

Agate grey Porsche 911 Speedster for sale

Haters gonna hate. You probably won't care


When it launched back in 2019, the 911 Speedster retailed at £211,599 - a number that made it at least £100k more expensive than the ‘standard’ 991 GT3 when it first arrived in 2013. We marvelled at that premium when we drove the Speedster, but suggested Porsche was on very solid ground thanks to the appreciation that any stripe of limited-edition, run-out GT3-related 911 would likely enjoy on the open market. Now, three years later, a lightly used example of the open-top model is available in the classifieds for £312,990. 

 

Even allowing for unprecedented secondhand values, it’s hard not to gape at the six-figure consistency of that second bounce. Whether or not the Speedster is ‘worth’ that kind of outlay hardly seems pertinent anymore (although it’s notable that the open-top GT3 is still in the shadow of the GT2 RS when it comes to silly-money 991s); as we all know, the market for low volume Porsches departed virtually all real-world considerations years ago. Is the Speedster fabulously good to drive? Yes. Is it more than £200k superior to a 991 GTS Cabriolet? No.

Of course, the upside is that the GTS will gently depreciate to the point where a mere mortal might consider it attainable, and chances are it will earn more affection from its owner than most Speedsters ever will - if only because the GTS is almost certain to accrue many more miles. Not every example of the Speedster’s 1,948 production run will be confined to a climate-controlled collection (even this one has notched up a decent-ish 6k since 2019) but it would take a certain sort of intrepid individual to throw any financial consideration to the wind, and use the Speedster as a daily. 

Obviously, there are more than a few people with pockets plenty deep enough to blithely shrug off the implications of frequent use, but they tend to be the sort of people who aren’t accustomed to the idea of a ‘daily’ in the first place - unless we’re talking about helicopters. No, whether by choice or circumstance, most Speedsters will seldom see the light of day. And while there are many more things to mourn or care about at the moment, that does seem a shame. Because, cost aside, there’s no question Porsche did a job with it. 

Or rather, Porsche Motorsport did. The department responsible for every GT-badged model is not accustomed to half measures, and while it is compromised by definition, the Speedster doesn’t drive like a car burdened with many. It was fascinating at the launch to learn that the team had been kicking around the concept for years, and that it started life with no roof whatsoever. The fabric one that it did earn - by dint of it being at least partly manual - is plainly not meant to be used unless absolutely necessary. Make no mistake, the 510hp Speedster is all about frolicking topless. 

It does this about as well as any convertible you’d care to imagine. Sure, there are prettier alternatives; certainly lighter ones, with larger engines. But the best performance cars are typically about cohesiveness, and the constituent parts of the Speedster go together like a Dire Straits album. It goes about its business so well that you even forget the nagging suspicion that a GT3 shorn of the roof probably shouldn’t be considered a GT3 at all, no matter how fast or feelsome. Should you buy one with all the money in the world? Well, a cheaper (but still stupendously expensive) 991 Touring still easily trumps it for desirability in our book. But you could have one of those, too. Encouragingly, both look good next to a chopper. 


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Orchardab

Original Poster:

783 posts

157 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Simply Lovely.

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

82 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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No thanks, not at that price. I’d rather have a 718 Spyder and pocket the £200k.

donutskidmark

1,403 posts

184 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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I’d love one, but not in that boring colour….

RDMcG

20,902 posts

238 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Not in the least tempted and I have had a lot of Porsches. This is basically an appearance package as you can get the performance with the other models and you can't drive the thing without destroying the premium.

GreatScott2016

2,576 posts

119 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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RDMcG said:
Not in the least tempted and I have had a lot of Porsches. This is basically an appearance package as you can get the performance with the other models and you can't drive the thing without destroying the premium.
+1

Ninja59

3,691 posts

143 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Never been able to quite make my mind up about the looks, in any generation where one existed, bluntly.

This generation I don't know even more, due to the GT3 touring version and I suppose in the next breath 911R.

If you want a daily then the standard or touring GT3 versions offer you a lot of the experience without the value issue.

I suppose the real question is what are the values of 911R v this?

nismo48

7,203 posts

238 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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donutskidmark said:
I’d love one, but not in that boring colour….
+1 If I could I would have it in a shade of yellow wink

Pflanzgarten

7,711 posts

56 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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I’ve always wanted a Porsche Speedster, of any type really.

Mysstree

547 posts

77 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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RDMcG said:
Not in the least tempted and I have had a lot of Porsches. This is basically an appearance package as you can get the performance with the other models and you can't drive the thing without destroying the premium.
Rather like assembling all the finest ingredients / products for a dinner with the finest wines all prepared by the greatest chef then not using them as all the monetary value has then gone.

My challenge to Pistonheads Assemble is can you go a whole week (7 days) without an article with a Porsche in it?

Kipsrs

722 posts

80 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Title should read; ‘flippers paradise’ Where can one get that sort of return on a three year investment? As has already been said, it’s such a shame it won’t be used to its full potential, I’d love to have one drive it and share its good looks with others. Ah well, such is the premium priced market!

Turbobanana

8,501 posts

232 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Mysstree said:
My challenge to Pistonheads Assemble is can you go a whole week (7 days) without an article with a Porsche in it?
It does feel like a sponsorship package, doesn't it?

As for the car: yeah, lovely and all that, but wrong colour and no real desire from me. As someone else said, buy something almost as good for less and trouser the difference.

wpa1975

14,796 posts

145 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Not doing a lot for me, especially at that money

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

82 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Ninja59 said:
Never been able to quite make my mind up about the looks, in any generation where one existed, bluntly.

This generation I don't know even more, due to the GT3 touring version and I suppose in the next breath 911R.

If you want a daily then the standard or touring GT3 versions offer you a lot of the experience without the value issue.

I suppose the real question is what are the values of 911R v this?
If it’s a choice between this and a 991.2 Touring, that’s easy. Plus the 991.2 Touring sounds better due to GPF on the Speedster.

Baldchap

9,631 posts

123 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Approximately 2000 sold less than three years ago. They're not even rare.

No thanks.

SteveStrange

7,780 posts

244 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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I think it's beautiful. If I had the money, I would, and I'd drive it. I don't think I've ever bought a car and thought about the resale value - always bought them to enjoy. That's probably why I'm poor.

Sandpit Steve

15,450 posts

105 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Baldchap said:
Approximately 2000 sold less than three years ago. They're not even rare.

No thanks.
Well quite. It’s a lovely car, but 50% over list for something they made in 2,000 units? If it were one of 200, I might understand the price.

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

231 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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I've always said there has never been a good looking 911 cab IMO.

Nothing has changed.

thegreenhell

24,283 posts

250 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Turbobanana said:
Mysstree said:
My challenge to Pistonheads Assemble is can you go a whole week (7 days) without an article with a Porsche in it?
It does feel like a sponsorship package, doesn't it?
6 days and 16 non-Porsche articles since the last Porsche featured on the front page. Not excessive, is it?

Ocho

740 posts

268 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Well quite. It’s a lovely car, but 50% over list for something they made in 2,000 units? If it were one of 200, I might understand the price.
You can't argue with Porsche for making it though - nearly half a billion turnover from one relatively short production run.

Sandpit Steve

15,450 posts

105 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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Ocho said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Well quite. It’s a lovely car, but 50% over list for something they made in 2,000 units? If it were one of 200, I might understand the price.
You can't argue with Porsche for making it though - nearly half a billion turnover from one relatively short production run.
Oh indeed, and IIRC they were all sold out before they were officially announced - much as any limited edition car seems to be today, the manufacturers and dealers all have long waiting lists of good customers for anything a bit special.

I really want Porsche to just keep making the final GT3, until we can all get one.