RE: 2022 Kia K5 GT | PH Review
RE: 2022 Kia K5 GT | PH Review
Saturday 10th September 2022

2022 Kia K5 GT | PH Review

Remember the Optima? Picture that with big power and limited traction. And now imagine you live in Big Sur...


When not slaving for PH I spent a fair amount of my professional time writing for American publications. I often report for them on the sort of cool European machinery that doesn’t get to the ‘States due to homologation problems or limited demand. But this time I’m doing it in reverse. Because the Kia K5 GT is an interesting, quick and well-priced car which is sold in the U.S., but which we’re never going to get the chance to buy over here. 

This is understandable. Kia hasn’t released any CO2 figures for the GT, but it’s a fair bet that it would emerge from European testing clutching a g/km score that would make it an unlikely choice in any of the parts of the continent that tax by emissions, and it would doubtless do all kinds of harm to Kia’s all-important fleet average. Yet it is also a shame because, as a week in California with one proved, the K5 GT has a laid-back athleticism it’s very easy to live with.

If you’re squinting and wondering where you’ve seen it before, the K5 is effectively an updated version of the Optima, the bland saloon that was quietly killed over here in 2019. But while Euro-spec Optimas were diesels or a rarely-bought PHEV, Kia has opted to sharpen the K5’s case with a pair of punchy four-cylinder engines. The base 1.6-litre makes a respectable 180hp and can dispatch the 0-60mph dash in 7-secs, while the punchier 2.5-litre engine in the GT makes the full 290hp and gets a standard eight speed twin-clutch transmission in place of the 1.6’s torque converter auto. The factory claim for a 0-60mph time is 5.7-sec, but one of the U.S. magazines has already taken half a second off that.

Not that off-the-line urge is something the GT excels at. Other manufacturers have attempted to tame the combination of front-wheel drive, big output and turbocharged punch with clever geometry-tweaking suspension like Ford’s Revo Knuckle and Vauxhall’s HiPerStrut. Kia has opted for the simpler solution once favoured by Saab - basically staging a dogfight between the front tyres. The decision to only offer the GT on all-season tyres doubtless doesn’t help, but even with the stability systems fully on it would judder and squeal when launched hard. Selecting the ‘Sport’ dynamic mode fully deactivates the traction control and gives the K5 the ability to vaporise its front tyres - even when you don’t want to. 

Once rolling, discipline is far better. There is little torque steer even over bumpy surfaces, and while the steering has all the chatty feedback of a Trappist monk, responses are keen and - with throttle discipline - the K5 resists understeer impressively well. I took the car I borrowed to the Angeles Crest Highway north of LA, a spectacular and very crashable road which acts as a magnet for SoCal’s performance car owners. I hit it at 7:30 in the morning to miss traffic, but still encountered everything from battered hot hatches to a brand new 911 GT3. 

Beyond the limitations imposed by its slidey rubber - not what you want when every corner ends in either a cliff face or a vertiginous air drop - the GT put in a credible performance. The basic chassis balance is good, the brakes took a frying without fading and behind its numbness the steering is precise enough for confidence to quickly build. The gearbox isn’t the snappiest twin-clutcher, but manual changes were delivered crisply enough; the engine’s thrashy soundtrack and the quantity of mid-range puff means there is little point in trying to find the redline anyway. The biggest issue after a 30-minute stint on twisties was the lack of lateral support in the alleged sports seat, the bolsters looking substantial but being too far apart to give proper location.

While the K5 GT is only decent at being a performance car, its case improves rapidly on the ‘everything else’ bit. It’s seriously spacious, as you’d hope given a 4,905mm length which makes it barely shorter than a Volvo S90, and slightly longer than the rear-drive Kia Stinger. The GT covered more than 1,000 miles four up without any complaints the back about legroom. Although the K5’s gently falling roofline makes it look like a hatchback it is actually a saloon, while the similarly profiled Stinger is a hatch. The GT’s boot managed a proper TARDIS impression, somehow absorbing the same number of bags that had filled the loadspace of a Skoda Superb estate to beyond the windowline on the trip to the airport in the UK. Cruising refinement is good, too - even on California’s frequently dreadful road surfaces.

Equipment is also generous. Even the unadorned GT has plenty of standard kit, but the GT1 package - which is pretty much the only option bar colour - adds the full toyshop. So equipped the GT gets active cruise with lane assist, heated and cooled power front seats, LED headlights, a camera view system, a panoramic roof and a banging BOSE audio system. While the sliding pound-to-dollar exchange rate makes a direct price comparison fairly irrelevant, especially as U.S. pricing is without the sales tax that varies state to state, the GT still looks like a performance bargain.

The basic MSRP of $32,285 - including the compulsory ‘destination’ charge - makes the K5 GT $2,500 less than the closely related Hyundai Sonata N Line, which shares its 290hp powertrain - and it is also slightly cheaper than the Volkswagen Jetta GLI which is smaller and only has 228hp. The supposedly posher but much dinkier 188hp Mercedes A220 has a $35,000 base price in the States, and is set to die in a couple of months. Even with the $4,200 GT1 package added the K5 still looks like serious value, although with the proviso that the rapid decline of what the U.S. calls the mid-sized sedan market means there isn’t actually that much left to compare it to. 

Which is probably the nub of why cars like the K5 are dying out on both sides of the Atlantic. America’s changing tastes were most obvious during long stints on the freeway network where the Kia’s lowness felt like a real hindrance when pretty much everything else - from cheap crossovers to XL pickup trucks, seemed to be towering over it. Conventional cars are already a minority in southern California, one that is likely soon to be sliding to extinction. And it’s not as if the UK is far behind when it comes to a growing affection for SUVs and higher seating positions.

Most of our favourite cars at PH have been those that deliver more thrills than frills, and the K5 GT deserves to go on that list. The world will be a little bit duller when stuff like this just doesn’t exist. 


Specification | Kia K5 GT

Engine: 2487cc four-cylinder, turbocharged
Transmission: Eight-speed twin-clutch, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 290 @ 5800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 311 @ 1650rpm
0-60mph: 5.7-sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1464kg 
CO2: NA
MPG: 24 (US) city, 32 (US) highway (EPA)
Price: $32,285 (MSRP, before tax), $36,485 (before tax) as tested

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Hairymonster

Original Poster:

1,678 posts

136 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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What a shame we don't get this over in the UK

themule

174 posts

106 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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A review about a lukewarm car that isn't sold here and no one would buy if it was.

Roger Irrelevant

3,392 posts

144 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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themule said:
A review about a lukewarm car that isn't sold here and no one would buy if it was.
laugh A bit harsh...but fair. Remember that dull-but-competent car from a few years ago that nobody bought in the UK? Well you can still get a slightly better version of it in the US. And nobody buys it there either. Be still my beating heart.

blearyeyedboy

6,811 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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I think it's quite a thoughtful piece about changing tastes of buyers.

This is review about a lukewarm car... because the craze for SUVs has driven tasty saloons to the brink of extinction. Barring muscle cars, which are a different breed really, there's nothing much hotter to compare it to any more.

Craikeybaby

12,159 posts

256 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Justification for getting a press car instead of a hire car for a Californian holiday?

Speedgirl

291 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Nice.
Shows where we might have been if not for SUVmageddon.
I have an idea… maybe car tax should be based on height (not inc roofbox or tent obvs), just that, the taller it is the more you pay, that should fix it.
soapbox

S600BSB

8,538 posts

137 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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themule said:
A review about a lukewarm car that isn't sold here and no one would buy if it was.
My thoughts entirely. Next...

cerb4.5lee

45,088 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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I seriously don't understand where all the SUV bashing comes from? I've got a 7 seater SUV that I'm more than happy with, and it is a great family/practical car for us too. However I've still got a 2 seater Roadster, and a 2+2 Coupe...your world doesn't have to end just because you have SUV for me. You are allowed to have more than 1 car you know!

In saying that though...I'm at an age where if I was restricted to only 1 car I'd probably go for the comfort of the higher seating position and air suspension of an SUV...over the much lower driving position and rock hard ride of the Coupe I've got to be fair.

cerb4.5lee

45,088 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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themule said:
A review about a lukewarm car that isn't sold here and no one would buy if it was.
I'm really upset that you can't buy the new Nissan Z in the UK...this not so much. Granted the Nissan Z only ever sold in tiny numbers in the UK(the 350Z did relatively well sales wise though), but the Z would still sell much better than this ever would I reckon.

Silvanus

6,917 posts

54 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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S600BSB said:
themule said:
A review about a lukewarm car that isn't sold here and no one would buy if it was.
My thoughts entirely. Next...
Yet you both read the article about a lukewarm car you can't buy here.

I find cars like this quite interesting (us PHer are interested in different things).

If you look at the Kia and Hyundai websites for the US its amazing the range of cars they now offer, they seriously embarras the Japanese and some of the home grown brands, same can be said here in Europe. Where is the midsized warm Ford saloon these days, a car that often sits at the heart of many petrol heads early memories?

This car is also going to be going on sale in Oz and will go up against the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon, oh hang on, wait!

I think Kia should be applauded for building a car like this, performance (warm) saloons are a dying breed. Not everyone has the means to go out and buy a Teutonic uber saloon. Its a shame we are such massive badge snobs in the UK as there a rumours of a hotter version which could be great but unfortunately it won't be coming here as Kia knows, for now, it won't sell as its not German or aspirational enough.



Bencolem

1,192 posts

270 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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This feels rather bizarre; I followed a dark red K5 GT home from work yesterday and had to google what it was as it was a surprisingly attractive looking car - and now PH has written a review of it the next day!

cerb4.5lee

45,088 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Bencolem said:
This feels rather bizarre; I followed a dark red K5 GT home from work yesterday and had to google what it was as it was a surprisingly attractive looking car - and now PH has written a review of it the next day!
I'm not really into saloons, because the couple that I had didn't have folding rear seats. So they were crap at carrying big stuff(I prefer a hatchback in the regard), however I agree that this is an attractive thing for sure.

Andy83n

612 posts

93 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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The gear stic, or shifter if you prefer, looks very very dated.

mcelliott

10,558 posts

212 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Really like that, now go and do a review of the Hyundai Elantra N, another fantastic car we can’t get here, that’ll get the badge snobs frillies in a right old twist

Firebobby

1,008 posts

70 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Sorry, I think it looks horrendous. Why would you?

Chrishum

1,413 posts

99 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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The estate version of the Optima was sold with a 250bhp Turbo petrol in the UK, its a rare car and I'm not sure the engine made its way into the hatch.

FaNtheMaN26

95 posts

90 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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I thought California were the strictest on health and safety matters and emissions and u couldn’t even fart without getting a fine


MadDog1962

900 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Kia and Hyundai products just keep getting better and better. It takes me back to the late 1980s when we made jokes about the Korean electrical goods and the awful Daewoos of the 1990s that were cast-offs of old GM products. Like the Japanese before them, they were just learning. Now, look at them 30 years later. They've hired some of the best talent from Europe and are making genuinely desirable products that stand up well against the Europeans. They are probably better than what North America is offering in the equivalent market segment.

The last Hyundai i30 hatch I rented (4 years ago) was almost as good as an equivalent VW Golf. It seems increasingly the case that the Germans are relying on snob value to maintain their market position.

MadDog1962

900 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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FaNtheMaN26 said:
I thought California were the strictest on health and safety matters and emissions and u couldn’t even fart without getting a fine
It's really not that bad. Out of town away from the big city, you can still have a lot of fun on fantastic Californian roads. Just don't try racing a Ferrari or Porsche along Mulholland Drive or you're likely to end up in serious trouble.

MadDog1962

900 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Firebobby said:
Sorry, I think it looks horrendous. Why would you?
Styling is a bit subjective. Performance and economics not so much.

Almost everything you can buy new these days for more than US$30K has more than enough performance to get you into trouble.

The K5 GT will sell for half of what a 5-Series, E-Class or A6 goes for with the same level of space, specification and performance. It comes with a better warranty too. At the end of warranty, with 75,000 to 100,000 miles on the odometer it'll probably still be worth at least 15% of the new price, and a posher German car will be worth about the same. The additional opportunity (interest) cost of the capital and simple depreciation mean that the Kia will have likely cost you less than 35% of what the more expensive Germans would have done.

Yes the European cars do still have slightly more handling and ride finesse, but the difference is becoming ever more marginal and many people (badge snobs excepted) are increasingly less willing to pay a premium for it.