RE: BMW 530d (G30) | The Brave Pill
RE: BMW 530d (G30) | The Brave Pill
Saturday 24th September 2022

BMW 530d (G30) | The Brave Pill

Hello, hello, hello - what's all this then?


The most important thing about an undercover police car is, you would think, the ability to go undetected. Which is why this week’s Pill, a spectacularly leggy ex-plod BMW 530d xDrive, has been causing some chin scratching in the office. As what has to be pretty much the only unoptioned G30 generation 530d SE in the country it is surely going to stand out like a bratwurst in a martini anywhere it goes.

Of course, it could be that the forces of Laura Norder reckon that crims are less car literate than your typical PHer, which is likely. Or alternatively that whichever police service that was running this 5-Series wanted it to be recognised by bad ‘uns as it patrolled the grim streets, like Sergeant Chisholm’s bright red Ford Cortina in Minder or the doom blue Sierra that was the ‘area car’ in The Bill, both of which would inevitably get miscreants running as soon as they lurched into view. (Anybody under 45 – ask a parent.)

Or maybe this is just how all police-spec 530ds are delivered, regardless of whether they are going to end up wearing Battenberg, with dinky 17-inch alloys rattling about in the arches and the cloth seats that have surely never been fitted to any civilian G30 sold in the UK. 

The police certainly know how to go into the deepest of deep cover when the want to. The SP&L forum sometimes discusses the innovative undercover cars sent out to nab the unwary. And I used to work with a nice chap whose brother was a member of a secret squirrel surveillance unit run by the Metropolitan police and charged with keeping tabs on suspects in the sort of areas where uniformed officers would normally travel in threes, or more often not at all. To do this they used such unspottable oddballs as banged-up Zafiras and ancient Mitsubishi Shoguns, these carefully chosen so that – as my colleague put it – ne’er do wells wouldn’t be able to smell the bacon. Against that standard of subterfuge, this 530d is practically a hog roast. 

This is the first former police car to make Brave Pill, but it definitely qualifies on both risk and reward. The former comes from a life that has doubtless involved plenty of thrashing by lead-footed flat-foots, and likely a fair number of kerbs and speedbumps taken at speed. The latter is down to a £13,745 price tag which makes it the cheapest xDrive G30 530d in the classifieds by more than four grand, with the runner-up also being another former police car albeit one finished in a more traditional shade of fridge white.

But while most former police cars show plenty of evidence of a life lived hard, frequently sporting holes in bodywork where lights and aerials have been removed and the sort of icky stainage that an ultraviolet light would turn into a psychedelic disco, this one looks impressively fresh. The dealer selling it, a specialist based near Manchester, promises it is ex-CID and, to judge from the photographic evidence, the boys in mufti took pretty good care of it. 

But they also seem to have used it for what seems to have been some long-distance detective work. Despite having covered slightly more than a light second this 530d isn’t actually our leggiest Pill ever. Nor, strangely, even our leggiest 5-Series. That’s because the only car to have featured here which had travelled further was an E39 M5 that we featured nearly three years ago, one that had managed to cover over 200,000 miles in almost two decades.

This G30 hasn’t quite reached that total, or at least hadn’t when it passed its first and only MOT in June having covered 198,369 miles. (We’ve had a peek behind the hidden registration plates.) As it was first registered in March 2018 that means it has averaged nearly 50,000 miles a year, which is going some by any standard. But as the record only shows one test the chronology is confusing – it went four years before its first MOT. So either a fleet manager was a bit lax about such things, unlikely given the car’s ownership, or, alternatively, this 530d has been off the road for a while.

Which is a strong possibility given the chequered history that N57-powered BMWs have had in police service. There have been many well-documented car fires in models equipped with the engine, and earlier this year several forces decided to restrict N57-engined vehicles to light duties to avoid the risk of thermal incidents. That led to a large number of six-cylinder BMW police vehicles being de-fleeted, some with very low miles, and some others with their engines drilled to prevent them from future use. Our Pill clearly isn’t a lightly used car being disposed of early, but it could still have fallen under the same edict.

BMW has been reticent about confirming what went wrong, although it did issue a statement admitting that a “unique usage profile puts extra strain on some components” and reassuring punters that regular use didn’t risk such a thing. Interestingly BMW of North America issued a recall of N57-powered cars at about the same time on the grounds that a leaking exhaust gas recirculation cooler could allow coolant to mix with hot soot deposits and burst into flames.

So there should be no disagreement in the forums that, despite its newness, there isn’t a Pill-appropriate level of risk here. More confirmation of a life lived hard comes in the advert’s admission our Pill had a new timing chain and crank bearings fitted at a BMW main dealer at 135,000 miles – which is hardly a minor procedure on one of these. On the plus side, that is also evidence of Jake Blues’ assertion that police cars get what they want, when they need it: it can’t have been a cheap fix.

While most former police cars look very obviously like former police cars, this one is more undercover. Granted, scrotes will probably still peg it on sight, but neighbours are more likely to think the boggo basic spec is down to the next owner being a total tightwad. 

So what’s it going to be: “you’ve stolen my heart” or “shut it – you’re nicked!”?


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wistec1

Original Poster:

806 posts

71 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I've run a five year old G30 530D AC Schnitzer from new and coved just 41K. Low miles granted but it's been problem free throughout. This one even with the poverty spec, leggy miles and a life hard lived is not what I would class as a full strength suicide pill. It will have wanted for nothing being on the tax payers balance sheet and in it's afterlife there are plenty of available parts and Indy garages who could antidote any cyanidous effects with this pill it even has a tow bar like mine which appears odd for a plod car.
A glass of water, Open wide,.Pinch your nose and swallow...... Easy.

Outstanding great car so much so my new 530d arrives this November and my current individual Atlantis Blue fully optioned one will be up for sale.

Edited by wistec1 on Saturday 24th September 05:28


Edited by wistec1 on Saturday 24th September 05:32


Edited by wistec1 on Saturday 24th September 05:35

rassi

2,518 posts

281 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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The G30 530d uses the brilliant B57 engine, not the older N57 engine as stated in the article

N.A.R.T Spyder

218 posts

90 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Any unmarked car always seems to be labelled 'Ex CID', the tow bar and mileage would suggest this was an unmarked traffic car though (no bad thing). Most of the N57 engine issues have been sorted by now for the police fleet.
Interesting fact, BMW have their own production line for Police cars where all the extra gubbins such as auxiliary power systems / wiring / lights etc are fitted - 'BMW Authorities'.

https://www.bmw-special-sales.com/en/topics/author...

Venisonpie

4,908 posts

112 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I suspect the MOT is it's first since defleet from plod as when in their tenure it won't need one.

Nsuro80

40 posts

95 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Word, dat

rassi said:
The G30 530d uses the brilliant B57 engine, not the older N57 engine as stated in the article

Unreal

10,946 posts

55 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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A 200,0000 mile car for £14K from a dealer called EX POLICE CAR'S AND WHO WRITES IN CAPITALS.

Not with the longest barge pole ever.

2 GKC

2,318 posts

135 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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See plenty of SE 5ers, not sure what all that crap in the first paragraph is about

ducnick

2,284 posts

273 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I suspect it rides well on the tyres with a side wall option. Those wheels and the fabric seats weren’t even an option on civilian configurations.

What’s it doing with a tow bar though? That seems a bit odd. What were the plod towing with a car? Presumably up and down the national motorway network ???

ED209

6,027 posts

274 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I very much doubt it would have been an undercover CID car as stated, it’s more likely to have been an unmarked traffic car.

whp1983

1,401 posts

169 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Weren’t MOTs all delayed during covid?

A fine motor for that price- again didn’t know cloth was ever available in any 5 series.

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

71 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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whp1983 said:
Weren’t MOTs all delayed during covid?

A fine motor for that price- again didn’t know cloth was ever available in any 5 series.
As a veggie I have always tried to avoid leather seats. Looked into getting a 5 series with cloth. You could get cloth as a special order but it was very expensive and increased delivery time significantly. So I went merc e class with pleather instead.

CDP

8,060 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Unreal said:
A 200,0000 mile car for £14K from a dealer called EX POLICE CAR'S AND WHO WRITES IN CAPITALS.

Not with the longest barge pole ever.
Maybe they wrote the advert on a Commodore PET?

mfp4073

2,100 posts

204 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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If BMW’s are such well engineered quality vehicles, how on earth can it require a new timing chain and crank bearings together with all the associated work required at only 135000 miles.?
As mentioned above that car would probably have been an unmarked Traffic car, check for evidence of previously fitted blue lights and replaced body panels.

Edited by mfp4073 on Saturday 24th September 08:34

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

230 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I know someone in the police who drives unmarked cars.

Periodically I’ll ask about buying an ex-service car. He literally can’t stop laughing whilst shaking his head.

Fusion777

2,630 posts

78 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Surely no-one will drop nearly £14k on something with 197k miles, or am I just out of touch?

Earthdweller

19,636 posts

156 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Almost undoubtedly an ex traffic car as it’s in authorities spec

Divisional CID drive battered basic fiestas/corsa’s whilst specialist undercover units drive anything but the same vehicles as the marked fleet they’d much more likely be in a Toyota or a Renault

Anyway £14k for a 200k mile 5 series that has been ragged to death and most likely crashed many times is mental

The ad should read “one owner, driven flat out daily by hundreds of different people who didn’t give a toss about it, all panels replaced, patchwork paint, original dashboard (if you’re lucky)”

smile


Earthdweller

19,636 posts

156 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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As an aside the Sierra area car used in the bill was white and a genuine Met Police vehicle that before it became Sun Hill’s Sierra 1 was based at Leyton in East London as Juliet 1

It still exist as it’s now in preservation

The Met never used blue Sierras as area cars, they were all white.

The last blue area cars were six Rover SD1’s purchased in 1977

wpa1975

14,794 posts

144 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Just no, £14k for a 200k BMW that has been hammered.

No bargepole long enough.

bluemason

1,169 posts

153 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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The dullest looking 5 series of all time. No road presence and it looked so dated even when it was launched.

cerb4.5lee

45,064 posts

210 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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ducnick said:
I suspect it rides well on the tyres with a side wall option.
That was exactly my first thought too. This will ride lovely on those tiny wheels for sure. My BIL had 20's(runflats) on his G30 530i in comparison, and surprisingly that didn't ride as bad as I was expecting either.