RE: Audi announces 620hp, rear-drive R8 GT
RE: Audi announces 620hp, rear-drive R8 GT
Tuesday 4th October 2022

Audi announces 620hp, rear-drive R8 GT

The R8 as we know it isn't long for this world; it's signing off in awesome fashion


Audi has dabbled with lighter and more focused R8s before, from the original GT of 2011 to the V10 Plus, together with a brace of rear-drive models. Only now, however, has Audi decided to go all-in on a proper R8 road racer, just as the end of production looms. Better late than never, eh? It is in that spirit that we welcome the second Audi R8 GT to the fold. 

As with the 2011 version, power is up, weight is down and the intent is plain to see. But there’s cause to be an awful lot more excited about this R8 GT than the last one. While that had to make do with the nasty R Tronic gearbox and quattro, this one is rear-wheel drive and comes with the much slicker transmission gifted to every second-generation R8. Oh yeah, and it has 620hp.  

Previously the RWD model has been pegged back against the quattros (i.e. the 540hp, limited edition RWS and 570hp RWD) for one reason or another. Well, no longer. For this 333-unit valedictory special, the ‘goodbye to the V10 engine’, no less, the rear-drive Audi R8 gets more power than the equivalent Lamborghini Huracan. (Just 10hp difference, but still.) The 620 figure is a nice, round 200hp more than the R8 V8 launched with a decade and a half ago, matches the Ferrari Roma and means almost 100hp more than even a 911 GT3 RS. 

That Porsche comparison is valid, too. Revs for peak power haven’t yet been released for the GT, but we know it’ll go all the way to 8,700rpm, just 300rpm shy of the 911. And it’s got to be a dead heat for sound; both 4.0-litre flat six and 5.2-litre V10 will be remembered as two of the great combustion engines. Torque is 416lb ft at 6,400-7,000rpm, numbers we’re never going to see produced by an R8 (or any attainable car, most likely) ever again.

Additionally, Audi claims 0-62mph in 3.4 seconds and 124mph in 10.1, with the Porsche recording 3.2 and 10.6 for the same benchmarks. The R8 GT should hit 199mph, and Audi has even gone to the effort of fitting this limited edition car with a new DCT. More than likely it’s an overhaul of the existing (very good) gearbox already there. Either way, even faster shift times are promised, along with ‘even more impressive acceleration in all gears’ thanks to altered ratios. 

The GT3 RS comparison extends to the chassis overhaul as well, the R8 GT benefitting from something Audi is calling a ‘Torque Rear Drive mode’ that promises - get this - ‘controlled and simultaneously precise oversteering’. It sounds a lot like the BMW M Traction Control and the AMG traction control seen over the past few years, with varying levels of intervention available for those eager to explore the limits of a 620hp, rear-wheel-drive, mid-engined Audi. There are seven stages, from ‘little slippage’ permitted at level 1 to ‘a lot of slippage’ at level 7, selectable via the steering wheel dial. Presumably, too, it can eventually go all the way off for, er, maximum slippage.  

The GT is lighter than a conventional R8, too, thanks to the forged wheels subtracting 20kg of unsprung weight. It’s still no true lightweight at 1,570kg (the Porsche is 1,450kg), though it’s of course nice to see the effort made - Audi could just as well have put the plaque on a few RWDs and sold them out as the last of the breed. The GT makeover extends further, in fact, to include standard ceramic brakes, buckets seats (that might finally provide a good driving position in an R8) and ‘performance sports suspension’ with CFRP anti-roll bars. Buyers will also be given the option of Michelin Cup 2 tyres and manually-adjustable coilover suspension. The aerokit is standard fit for 333 of them, though, comprised of the splitter, flics, side skirt covers, rear bumper, diffuser and gooseneck wing. 

Sounds pretty great, right? If nothing else, Audi seems intent on the R8 bowing out in a blaze of revs and oversteer, which cuts against the grain a bit - but could well produce the most likeable second-generation car yet. The GT will be available at dealerships from 2023, though there’s only a price in euros for now: €225,000, or £198,000. No word on a UK allocation just yet; if it follows the original then just 33 will be coming here, expect an orderly queue to form instantly. 


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Pusikurac

Original Poster:

121 posts

70 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Nasty r-tronic? Why nasty? It is half way between manual an double clutch. It makes you work for it. The idea behind manual.

mrclav

1,645 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Pusikurac said:
Nasty r-tronic? Why nasty? It is half way between manual an double clutch. It makes you work for it. The idea behind manual.
Every review, around the world, hated the R-tronic at the time when it came out.

Personally the S-tronic was much better in my view; a quicker shifting and overall better performing car as a result.


RSbandit

3,070 posts

162 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Looks like the 'Performance parts' version from the pre face lift car...that'll be a proper weapon in any case nice to see Audi letting their hair down a little.

Wadeski

9,047 posts

243 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I'll probably be in the minority, but it feels "off brand" for the R8 to have all that aero and aggression on it.

I wonder if a much more interesting set of special editions focussing on what Audi Bespoke can do with interior trim, paint and badging and bringing back the manual option for limited-run cars....

MF35

454 posts

51 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Wadeski said:
I'll probably be in the minority, but it feels "off brand" for the R8 to have all that aero and aggression on it.

I wonder if a much more interesting set of special editions focussing on what Audi Bespoke can do with interior trim, paint and badging and bringing back the manual option for limited-run cars....
I agree a sleeper one would be great, but it's not that OTT compared to modern standards, and this thing will be so flipping quick that I wouldn’t even miss the manual gearbox tbh

Terminator X

20,886 posts

234 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Will own a V10 R8 one day, absolutely love em.

TX.

GreatScott2016

2,573 posts

118 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Wadeski said:
I'll probably be in the minority, but it feels "off brand" for the R8 to have all that aero and aggression on it.

I wonder if a much more interesting set of special editions focussing on what Audi Bespoke can do with interior trim, paint and badging and bringing back the manual option for limited-run cars....
+1 biggrin

Its Just Adz

19,052 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Damm that's a great looking car.

And that engine, one of the last greats.

Jon_S_Rally

4,504 posts

118 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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I've never been a huge R8 fan, but I'll still be a bit sad when this generation is killed off and replaced by something electrified. Like others, I'm not sure big wings particularly suit it but, with that engine in it, who cares. It will sound glorious, and that's something to be savoured.

Twinair

1,048 posts

172 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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I do like these, I like the engine and the styling (I do prefer the toned down styling on the earlier ones for my taste though!) £200k - I guess I won’t be driving one - but Bon chancé and congrats to those who do…! Good job Audi :-))

chrisironside

976 posts

192 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Looking a bit busy at the front, but still a very good looking car.

cerb4.5lee

45,057 posts

210 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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We will definitely look back very fondly at engines like these I reckon. I do like the R8, and I always seem to see the owners of them booting them...which is good to experience the noise they make I think.

Griffith4ever

7,023 posts

65 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Pusikurac said:
Nasty r-tronic? Why nasty? It is half way between manual an double clutch. It makes you work for it. The idea behind manual.
I have it and there is nothing "nasty" about it. It's a joyous electronically operated manual. 1st to 2nd is clunky at low speed without throttle modulation for sure, but that's it. It'll never be as fast or smooth as a DSG/Stronic but "nasty" it is not. A few hours of driving and you adapt to smooth out 1st to 2nd. I swear none of the reviewers actually owned the car, or you'd see the feedback like mine, and pretty much every other Rtronic owner. We all love them.

It's yet another of the tropes spread around those that don't actually own one and just repeat what they read by a journalist, who repeated what he read from another journo. Lazy writing.

Before I bought mine I watched this vid which confirmed my suspicions, and so I went ahead.

https://youtu.be/s-Umk6aSpwo


Still, it ensures a bargain for those of us that can see past the nonsense.

BrettMRC

6,086 posts

190 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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That looks and sounds awesome, and I'm sure it will be great to drive - but that is a *lot* of money!

Chunkychucky

6,094 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Griffith4ever said:
Pusikurac said:
Nasty r-tronic? Why nasty? It is half way between manual an double clutch. It makes you work for it. The idea behind manual.
I have it and there is nothing "nasty" about it. It's a joyous electronically operated manual. 1st to 2nd is clunky at low speed without throttle modulation for sure, but that's it. It'll never be as fast or smooth as a DSG/Stronic but "nasty" it is not. A few hours of driving and you adapt to smooth out 1st to 2nd. I swear none of the reviewers actually owned the car, or you'd see the feedback like mine, and pretty much every other Rtronic owner. We all love them.

It's yet another of the tropes spread around those that don't actually own one and just repeat what they read by a journalist, who repeated what he read from another journo. Lazy writing.

Before I bought mine I watched this vid which confirmed my suspicions, and so I went ahead.

https://youtu.be/s-Umk6aSpwo


Still, it ensures a bargain for those of us that can see past the nonsense.
Congrats on having a decent amount of owner-bias. Granted R Tronic isn't on the same level as the 360 Modena F1 gearbox or BMW's SMG 2 (I tried a 2088 V8 R8 with it, put me right off), but it's very similar in its drawbacks/shortfalls. If you can't change gear properly in a manual and are happy with only 2 pedals, more power to you beer

Wab1974uk

1,418 posts

57 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Wadeski said:
I'll probably be in the minority, but it feels "off brand" for the R8 to have all that aero and aggression on it.

I wonder if a much more interesting set of special editions focussing on what Audi Bespoke can do with interior trim, paint and badging and bringing back the manual option for limited-run cars....
Agreed. The original R8 looked so much better. Future classic.

The current R8 is all squared off, slashed, and daft add on's. Looks crass.

Remember when a well specced R8 cost £85,000. Fabulous V8 and a glorious manual gearbox that `clack clacked` it's way through the box.

mylesmcd

2,587 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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As above.

Kick the Halfords off it and it would be a great looking machine...

Dr G

15,989 posts

272 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Griffith4ever said:
I have it and there is nothing "nasty" about it. It's a joyous electronically operated manual. 1st to 2nd is clunky at low speed without throttle modulation for sure, but that's it. It'll never be as fast or smooth as a DSG/Stronic but "nasty" it is not. A few hours of driving and you adapt to smooth out 1st to 2nd. I swear none of the reviewers actually owned the car, or you'd see the feedback like mine, and pretty much every other Rtronic owner. We all love them.

It's yet another of the tropes spread around those that don't actually own one and just repeat what they read by a journalist, who repeated what he read from another journo. Lazy writing.

Before I bought mine I watched this vid which confirmed my suspicions, and so I went ahead.

https://youtu.be/s-Umk6aSpwo


Still, it ensures a bargain for those of us that can see past the nonsense.
Agreed, and I think we've even exchanged comments on the same here before! Whenever I see "that comment" from a professional it really puts me off the rest of their article.

Griffith4ever

7,023 posts

65 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Chunkychucky said:
Congrats on having a decent amount of owner-bias. Granted R Tronic isn't on the same level as the 360 Modena F1 gearbox or BMW's SMG 2 (I tried a 2088 V8 R8 with it, put me right off), but it's very similar in its drawbacks/shortfalls. If you can't change gear properly in a manual and are happy with only 2 pedals, more power to you beer
Lol, no need to be a tt about it :-)

I can't afford the manual, let alone manage to change gears!


Griffith4ever

7,023 posts

65 months

Tuesday 4th October 2022
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Dr G said:
Agreed, and I think we've even exchanged comments on the same here before! Whenever I see "that comment" from a professional it really puts me off the rest of their article.
Indeed. The guy above taking the piss out of me quotes the classic, "I tried a 2088 V8 R8 with it, put me right off" - it's the "I tried" bit that always garners the same response. Actually own one, drive it for more than a day, and you find it's a great box for anyone other than race drivers hunting for 10ths, or anyone fool enough to drive it in automatic mode.