RE: 2022 VW ID.5 GTX | PH Review
RE: 2022 VW ID.5 GTX | PH Review
Friday 7th October 2022

2022 VW ID.5 GTX | PH Review

If you want 300hp or so in a family-friendly VW that isn't a Golf R, what about the new GTX?


It’s nice to take a break from the norm sometimes. Car journalists get too used to testing the same sorts of cars in the same sorts of ways that they can end up struggling to see the wood for the trees. Especially in an electric car era that’s already starting to feel spookily homogenous.  

Handily, then, the first significant drive of the new 299hp ID.5 GTX - VW’s Enyaq Coupe vRS, really - is five up, with friends, to a pub lunch. Bear with. Take non-car people out in something brand new, electric, quite fast and pretty expensive (we’ll return to the latter point) and it’s nice to be reminded just how impressive EVs already are in isolation. As a journalist the concern was whether the ID.5 would be prone to the same issues as other MEB cars; as someone just out on a Saturday with mates the GTX was immediately appealing.  

The baby seat latched onto the Isofix quickly; the rear seat passengers loved not just the space afforded by no transmission tunnel, but also the light of the panoramic roof, and the dark blue leather; my friend in the passenger seat enjoyed all the storage and the charging for their new phone. For once, VW's screens couldn’t really be faulted, because they did what was requested when requested. And it’s easy to forget that real people don’t really care about regen braking levels or a frankly daft EU kerbweight (so one person in, not five) of 2,242kg.

Quite understandably, what they care about is a badge they know and trust, combined with the snazzy concept of coupe SUV (especially one with this much room). Not to mention the 3D LED rear lights look cool, and the charge port is exactly where a filler cap would be. An ID.5 GTX sat in the VW showroom on 20-inch wheels (21s are optional) will be very glad there’s no second chance at a first impression, because it probably won’t get any better than this. As a demonstration of how seamless and easy the EV transition can be, the ID.5 GTX does better than most on initial encounter. It’s just a big and nice VW that happens to be battery-powered.  

However, PH doesn’t represent the average car buyer. And while VW has deliberately not given any of its faster EVs the GTI badge, there’s no escaping the fact the GTX has the most sporting intent of the ID cars yet. At least until that rumoured ID.X hot hatch comes along. It’s the only model in the ID.5 range with dual motors and four-wheel drive, the suspension is 15mm lower than standard and there was a mention of ‘sporty handling’ in the first press release, so VW can hardly blame anyone for joining the dots. 

Having only recently extolled the virtues of lesser-powered EVs, this might sound hypocritical, but the GTX could do with being a bit pokier. Or slower. It exists in that strange no-man's land between neck-snapping EVs and the ones you accept will never actually be that quick. But are cheaper. Which is fine, if a tad disappointing for something with a vaguely sporty pretence. Officially it’ll do 0-62mph in 6.3 seconds, but the GTX never quite offers that zap of acceleration we’ve already become accustomed to.  Even without passengers and baby junk. More frustrating is the absence of any kind of sound; surely it’s in this ID.5 that some kind of synthesised backing track could be offered - or justified. As is already becoming clear (and was discussed in the EV6 vs. Polestar test), these range-topping EVs need more than just slightly brisker acceleration to justify the premium billing. It’s like those instant hot water taps - do you really need to spend extra just to save the inconvenience of waiting a few seconds more? 

Anyway, we’re talking cars, not kettles. All of the MEB cars, from Born to Buzz, handle smartly, and the same is true for GTX. It drives a lot like an ID.3 in fact, spookily well controlled if perhaps understeering a little sooner than might be expected once the weight takes hold. But that’s also perhaps the ID.5’s problem, because this car is £20k more than an ID.3 and the experience is unerringly familiar. The corners just arrive a bit faster. Once more it seems churlish to criticise a car for being perfectly adequate, but there’s nothing about the GTX drive that elevates it above the lower-powered models in the range (or on this platform) in the way you'd expect of a traditional flagship. There’s no more bite to the steering, no more tension to the ride (even with the DCC dampers cranked to their most aggressive setting), no flighty agility enabled by clever torque vectoring. Even the brake regen is tame. And the ESC remains humourless.  

Maybe we’re being unreasonable Luddites. Maybe there’ll be a GTX-R to follow that will duly exploit the potential of the platform while retaining the ease of use. For the moment, however, the ID.5 GTX proves exactly the point we covered off in the Polestar and Kia twin test - simply cranking up the power does not make for an authentic EV flagship. Then again, VW might argue that it doesn't charge flagship money for a top-of-the-range model; the ID.5 GTX Style starts at £56,460, with models like the 174hp Max (£57,635) and 204hp Tech (£55,495) at similar money for less power and more (it must be said, annoying) equipment. Which was unexpected. The GTX may not be a great revelation for electric driver’s cars, then, but we’re always going to prioritise performance over fripperies. If the ID.5 is the car for you, the GTX might actually be a goer - it’s just a shame that for the moment, £55k VWs feel very ordinary.  


SPECIFICATION | 2022 VOLKSWAGEN ID.5 GTX 

Engine: Dual electric motors, 77kWh lithium-ion battery
Transmission: Single-speed reduction gearing, all-wheel drivePower (hp): 299Torque (lb ft): 3480-62mph: 6.3secsTop speed: 112mphWeight: 2,242kg (EU, with drive)Efficiency: 314 miles range, 3.36 miles per kWh
Price: from £56,460 

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drpep

Original Poster:

1,761 posts

198 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Strong money for a chunky crossover but seems adequately accelerative for it's target market; 6.3s 0-60 is respectable, albeit a bit tardy for an EV. Doesn't seem like much to get excited about overall, IMHO.

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Just another EV blandwagon.

T1berious

2,675 posts

185 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be as powerful as it needs to be at this price point? Tesla model 3 etc will be cheaper and quicker.

Pretty sure it's just software holding it back as 300bhp plus a big dose of torque and AWD should do better than 6.3 to 60?

OK the Kia is bit lighter and a tiny bit more powerful but it can do that sprint in sub 5 and is 8k cheaper?

At a similar price point a Tesla model 3 performance AWD offers M3 baiting performance.

No idea why the GTX is so sedate....

Lotusgav

169 posts

189 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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And therein lies the rub for all EV’s. They all deliver their power in the same way - just some do it faster up to the pointless/nauseating level. So there’s nothing to distinguish them apart from trim, range and price. Might as well get a well priced one…

Ok if it’s just a box that goes A to B but making something with a bit of passion seems to be an issue…

T1berious

2,675 posts

185 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Lotusgav said:
And therein lies the rub for all EV’s. They all deliver their power in the same way - just some do it faster up to the pointless/nauseating level. So there’s nothing to distinguish them apart from trim, range and price. Might as well get a well priced one…

Ok if it’s just a box that goes A to B but making something with a bit of passion seems to be an issue…
At this price point, definitely. Cayman / Boxster replacement will be on an EV platform but you can bet the start price before options will be 75k

covmutley

3,376 posts

220 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Lotusgav said:
And therein lies the rub for all EV’s. They all deliver their power in the same way - just some do it faster up to the pointless/nauseating level. So there’s nothing to distinguish them apart from trim, range and price. Might as well get a well priced one…

Ok if it’s just a box that goes A to B but making something with a bit of passion seems to be an issue…
Completely agree. My old i3 was very punchy at 20-40 mph, more so than the xe s that followed it, and great in the real world to be fair. Really didn't need any more power, and any more power wouldn't have been any more fun, be cause it was devoid of soul, noise and any sense of thrill.

This just feels like a car with a the 'speed pack' software turned on and some incongrous sports seats chucked in the front.

Edited by covmutley on Friday 7th October 07:00

Gweeds

7,954 posts

82 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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£57k. Nope.

howardhughes

1,420 posts

234 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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When will this end.

Blackpuddin

19,493 posts

235 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Hate to ask, but what will a car like this be worth when the battery has become a liability?

LankyFreak

875 posts

58 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Bit too fat for my tastes... But I almost don't dislike it!

Fusion777

2,630 posts

78 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Anti-EV comments are as predictable as the sun coming up. I do wonder how many they’ll sell at £55k/whatever the monthly payment is over the next few years of poor economic outlook, though.

Maybe the outlook will spur development of cheaper models.

Howard1650

345 posts

221 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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I can't get past the touch-sensitive buttons on these VW ID vehicle. Both around the centre screen and on the steering wheel. hey are incredibly irritating easy to activate when not wanted and provide no tactile feedback. When parking and turning the wheel from lock to lock it's so easy to touch these buttons. Ruins the whole driving experience. Other than that - well done VW, but I’ll still put my money into a Polstar.


FaustF

812 posts

184 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Dull blancmange

cerb4.5lee

44,923 posts

210 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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howardhughes said:
When will this end.
I couldn't have put it better myself.

This weighs about the same as the 7 seater SUV that I have, and it is slower to 60. I just don't get it?

rodericb

8,901 posts

156 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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That steering wheel looks like some sort of Star Wars character.


Pughmacher

441 posts

73 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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rodericb said:
That steering wheel looks like some sort of Star Wars character.

It’s been pointed out before and now I can’t un-see the steering wheel as Roland Rat. It’s the same across the range.

Familymad

2,355 posts

247 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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That media centre is a car crash. Slow and glitchy. The sliding volume control is a farce too. Same as one fitted in our leased Octavia and I won’t buy VAG again until they sort the issues,

evojam

793 posts

190 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Will these things tow a caravan..? if so what can I expect the real world range to be fully laden on my way down through France?

fantheman80

2,655 posts

79 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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If you want 300hp or so in a family-friendly VW that isn't a Golf R, what about the new GTX?

"hmm, ive heard their pretty nippy these elecy things, lets take a look. 6.3 vs 3.9 in the R.....Darling, what colour Golf do you want?"

Its not all about 0-60 of course, but for an enthusiast this matters, and this doesn't even do what 'lecys are famous for. Hard pass....plus it looks like a blob

VW are leaving room for a quicker one for sure

SteveStrange

7,778 posts

243 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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When will someone produce a decent 7-seater EV? Seems like VW, Kia, Hyundai et al (even Tesla) are missing a trick here.