RE: Daihatsu Charade De Tomaso | The Brave Pill
RE: Daihatsu Charade De Tomaso | The Brave Pill
Saturday 8th October 2022

Daihatsu Charade De Tomaso | The Brave Pill

Does a Japanese heart and an Italian name make for a British bargain?


After the Yin of last week’s Volkswagen Phaeton V10 TDI, Brave Pill is going full Yang this time with what must be about the most opposite car possible. Yep, it’s a four-cylinder, front-wheel-driven Japanese supermini.

Don’t worry, there will be plenty of time to discuss the question of risk later on. Followed by a shouted argument about risk and then likely a drunken punch-up in the car park about risk. But first the sheer improbability of the combination of a Daihatsu Charade wearing the name more commonly applied to playboy-spec seventies sports cars needs to be addressed. 

I once wrote what was meant to be a humorous story in which I listed both unlikely (but real) Japanese car names alongside others I had made up, and then asked the readers to spot the difference. Sadly the whole premise didn’t work, because while it was great fun thinking up with unlikely monikers like the Pantry Raider Excelsior, Brave Sir Knight and Café Crème L.Q. Jones, none of my efforts could get close to the reality-shifting surrealness of the real thing. This is the country that produced the Mitsubishi Mini Active Urban Sandal or Honda Vamos Hobio Travel Dog. 

While ‘DeTomaso’ looks less incongruous writ large on the side of a Charade, the name is likely to trigger memories of the brawny Mangusta and Pantera sportscars created by Alejandro De Tomaso’s eponymous company. Yet both come from the same origin. That’s because, after establishing his own company, De Tomaso took control of Innocenti in the mid-1970s. He then led the Italian assembler of Mini-based hatchbacks through a switch to Daihatsu power. And although De Tomaso’s connection to the company wasn’t a long one, it soon passing into Fiat’s control, Daihatsu clearly appreciated the connection enough to commemorate it with an edition name.

The first De Tomaso Charade was a concept car fitted with a 1.0-litre turbocharged engine that was shown at the 1981 Tokyo Motor Show, with the name then applied to a production version a couple of years later. It clearly struck a chord, because range-topping De Tomaso versions of the Charade would be offered all the way through to the retirement of the fourth generation version in 2000.

Our Pill is one of this final iteration, a 1996 car that has been freshly imported from Japan by a specialist dealer in Coventry. While the third-gen Charade had used a tiny turbocharged three-pot in its most potent version, the fondly remembered GTti, the bigger Mk4 was switched to a naturally aspirated four-cylinder engine. Displacing 1.6 litres and with a 16-valve head this made a competitive 122hp as sold in Japan where it carried the De Tomaso branding, although export markets had to make do with a less potent 105hp version which was simply known as the GTi. With a combined total of more than 120,000 of both variants, this was almost certainly the most commercially successful car to wear the De Tomaso name.

Japanese buyers expected plentiful goodies in the nineties, even on superminis, and the De Tomaso got a Nardi leather steering wheel, branded Recaro sports seats, alloy wheels and a chunky little bodykit as standard – plus air conditioning. While an automatic version was available, our Pill has got the proper five-speed manual. 

While it isn’t in box fresh condition, the Charade looks pretty enticing in the pictures, even if the advert’s claim of 95,000 miles (more likely kilometres) represents a serious total for any Japanese market ‘mini. Some of the DETOMASO graphic has peeled off on the driver’s side, the headlights seem to have faded slightly and that Nardi steering wheel is a bit scuffed. But the grey cloth trim looks factory fresh, the paintwork is crisp and unscuffed and the images make clear there is no rust – with the floorpan looking clean enough to eat an upside-down dinner off thanks to Japan’s salt-free roads. We don’t have any MOT history for the simple fact the car hasn’t undergone one, something any buyer will need to discuss in greater detail with the vendor.

Bringing us back to the question of the level of peril inherent in such a mechanically simple and modestly powered car, and the strong possibility of triggering a pile-on pagga in the comments. Is something like this ever going to be as courageous a choice as something like last week’s V10 TDI? Of course not – not least as the worst possible outcome for any potential buyer is the ‘walk away’ cost of writing off the £5,995 asking price. There have been many previous Brave Pills that could cost you that before breakfast and double that by lunch.

But anyone who reckons the Charade is as timid as a double scoop of vanilla ice cream should consider the challenge inherent with keeping something so obscure on the road. Good luck in tracking down rare spares or parts if anything does go wrong: with Daihatsu’s withdrawal from Europe in 2013 the nearest dealer is somewhere east of the Urals. 

Yet given the febrile prices being asked for some frankly terrible, barely tepid European hatchbacks of this era, a rare groove does look like an enticing alternative. Also, consider the fun to be had from buying it and gatecrashing a meeting of the De Tomaso owner’s club.


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richinlondon

Original Poster:

900 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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First! Who-hoo….

Ummmmm, no….

Pistom

6,422 posts

189 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Daihatsu have made some great cars....



.....but this isn't one of them!

Hub

7,151 posts

228 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Not one I've heard of before. The fact it is all Daihatsu and no De Tomaso is probably beneficial in terms of 'braveness', but it isn't exactly desirable

yme402

665 posts

132 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Not for me. And a strangely self-indulgent article for Piston Heads. Had kind of lost the thread after the first paragraphs of rambling waffle…..

Mikebentley

8,679 posts

170 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Linky no worky to vendors add? Anybody know how much?

sjabrown

2,090 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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I wouldn’t say brave at all really. Parts for obscure cars just require an extra level of effort.

Desirability? Middling. Depending on how these things drive it could be a fun wee thing.

757

4,474 posts

141 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Mikebentley said:
Linky no worky to vendors add? Anybody know how much?
Here it is:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13709495

Groaver

85 posts

63 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Nothing wrong with a fun little Japanese warm watch.
I would rather have the GTti though.

Those seats do look rather un-Recaro and more DFS.

rossub

6,023 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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At least the price isn’t too crazy for something completely rust free.

Doesn’t look great in white though.

Speedgirl

291 posts

197 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Sweet little car, but really, is this what PH has come to? laugh

Mikebentley

8,679 posts

170 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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It’s all a bit meh. Seats look like awful. I would rather a standard GTti as someone above said.

Mike1962

19 posts

118 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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This article is a Charade

Augustus Windsock

3,803 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Branded Recaro sports seats?
Hmmmmn I didn’t realise that they made such flat and unsupportive looking seats as featured in this bolide
Yes. It does say ‘Recaro’ on the seat backs, but as the old saying goes ‘it may say Weetabix on the sides of buses but it doesn’t mean there’s any in there’…
Or as Frankie Howerd used to say:
Nay, nay and thrice nay..

wpa1975

14,777 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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What an awful looking car, just naff

emperorburger

1,484 posts

96 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Mike1962 said:
This article is a Charade
Personally, I thought it deserved a little more Applause.

jzakariya

189 posts

148 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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My first car was a Daihatsu Charade Turbo. It had a DeTomaso front grill, never figured out if DeTomaso had anything else to do with it. Had beautiful red sports seats and a little Turbo light that came up when you pushed the pedal. Still one of the best cars I've ever owned.
This one doesn't look as nice or as well resolved. Daihatsu though make good cars.

Dombilano

1,459 posts

85 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Does a 1.6 with 122hp develop enough heat to require bonnet vents?
It'd be a laugh for shed money, nothing more

cerb4.5lee

44,965 posts

210 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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I really like how clean it is underneath, but it isn't very easy on the eyes for me though.

Black S2K

1,926 posts

279 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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emperorburger said:
Mike1962 said:
This article is a Charade
Personally, I thought it deserved a little more Applause.
I agree, Compagno.

Lester H

4,421 posts

135 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Interesting, because different, though actually Daihatsus are strongly related to Toyota. I' m not in the market for anything like this, but the article set me thinking: Near to me is a car lot which seems to specialise ( or maybe just accumulates a lot of) small cars which are priced around £2000. I will take more notice next time I pass as there will almost inevitably be one of two which are a better bet than this Charade, and at a £3000 saving.Clearly a reader will dismiss this if the ownership of a car with an exotic name is a must!