Is My Driving Instructor right to shout?
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I’ve had my instructor for a few months now. Today I was on a slip road joining a dual carriageway and thought it was safe to join. I checked my mirrors and felt that there was a safe enough gap.
My instructor suddenly shouted at me’ No, No , No and grabbed the steering wheel, braking harshly.
Now I do gel with my instructor and he does shout at high risk situations and I’ve come to realise that perhaps high risk situations do need him to shout.
But today was different. I don’t feel he needs to shout like that. Perhaps grab the steering wheel and braking could have sufficed.
But the way he shouts makes me cower.
My question is , do you feel a high risk situation calls for such shouty behaviour to do you feel maybe it isn’t warranted?
My instructor suddenly shouted at me’ No, No , No and grabbed the steering wheel, braking harshly.
Now I do gel with my instructor and he does shout at high risk situations and I’ve come to realise that perhaps high risk situations do need him to shout.
But today was different. I don’t feel he needs to shout like that. Perhaps grab the steering wheel and braking could have sufficed.
But the way he shouts makes me cower.
My question is , do you feel a high risk situation calls for such shouty behaviour to do you feel maybe it isn’t warranted?
He’s the qualified experienced licensed driver
He assessed the situation and deemed your proposed move unsafe and needed to intervene
Did he need to shout, possibly, possibly not without knowing the exact situation - but at a guess I would think it was a near critical miss since he needed to assume control
He assessed the situation and deemed your proposed move unsafe and needed to intervene
Did he need to shout, possibly, possibly not without knowing the exact situation - but at a guess I would think it was a near critical miss since he needed to assume control
Unwarranted, firstly he should assess the risk of the situation into which he is placing you, and should have explained hazard perception specific to that situation as well, secondly, to inspire confidence and put his student at ease, he should never shout at you, especially if you make an error.
Joining a major road from a slip road takes an element of planning, but did he explain why he shouted at you?. Did he take time to explain the risks and dangers you were facing?. Did he take you and demonstrate to you how it should be done, what to do and how to do it safely?.
If you made an error which might have caused an accident or put others at risk, then he should have explained why and where you went wrong. Taking control of the vehicle is one thing, but shouting at a student is something else.
Joining a major road from a slip road takes an element of planning, but did he explain why he shouted at you?. Did he take time to explain the risks and dangers you were facing?. Did he take you and demonstrate to you how it should be done, what to do and how to do it safely?.
If you made an error which might have caused an accident or put others at risk, then he should have explained why and where you went wrong. Taking control of the vehicle is one thing, but shouting at a student is something else.
If you’re not happy with the way he deals with situations, change instructor. Nobody knows for sure whether what he done was appropriate or not as they weren’t there. Maybe ask on your local Facebook group or something if anyone else is using him and then private message them to see if they have any problems with him.
texaxile said:
Vanden Crash said:
Snowflake Trolling at its worse
Worst.Unfair assumption as well. New poster, new driver.
Give some benefit of the doubt, this forum is hostile enough as it is in some places.
Based on the instructor still having to take control you clearly are not ready for independent driving,
What is the instructor doing prior to manoeuvrers prior to shouting / taking control,
If there not explaining the situation your approching and giving you options / opinions or advice, then change the instructor
Manda83 said:
I’ve had my instructor for a few months now. Today I was on a slip road joining a dual carriageway and thought it was safe to join. I checked my mirrors and felt that there was a safe enough gap.
My instructor suddenly shouted at me’ No, No , No and grabbed the steering wheel, braking harshly.
Now I do gel with my instructor and he does shout at high risk situations and I’ve come to realise that perhaps high risk situations do need him to shout.
But today was different. I don’t feel he needs to shout like that. Perhaps grab the steering wheel and braking could have sufficed.
But the way he shouts makes me cower.
My question is , do you feel a high risk situation calls for such shouty behaviour to do you feel maybe it isn’t warranted?
It doesn't feel constructive, for sure. I agree. My instructor suddenly shouted at me’ No, No , No and grabbed the steering wheel, braking harshly.
Now I do gel with my instructor and he does shout at high risk situations and I’ve come to realise that perhaps high risk situations do need him to shout.
But today was different. I don’t feel he needs to shout like that. Perhaps grab the steering wheel and braking could have sufficed.
But the way he shouts makes me cower.
My question is , do you feel a high risk situation calls for such shouty behaviour to do you feel maybe it isn’t warranted?
Maybe you and he are not compatible? I would suggest you find someone else.
Actually, reminds me of when my younger sister was learning to drive. I had passed my test 2+ years previous so (under the rules at the time) I was qualified to sit in the passenger seat whilst she was on her Provisional.
I recall us approaching a roundabout at speed and it went something like this:
Me: "Ok, need to start easing off the accelerator now"
(beat)
Me: "You should be thinking about getting on the brakes"
(beat)
Me: "We really need to be braking now"
(beat)
Me: "Brake now!"
(beat)
Me: "BRAKE!!!!!!!"
Her: (fully turning to me, and taking her feet off the pedals) "Don't you raise your voice at me like that!!"
Me: "FOR GOD'S SAKE f
kING BRAKE NOW OR WE CRASH!!!!!!"
Needless to say I never sat in the passenger seat with her again until long after she passed her test.
And, yes, I think shouting may possibly have been warranted there, which I know kind of undermines my previous post.
edit: Although it does illustrate that shouting can be counter-productive.
I recall us approaching a roundabout at speed and it went something like this:
Me: "Ok, need to start easing off the accelerator now"
(beat)
Me: "You should be thinking about getting on the brakes"
(beat)
Me: "We really need to be braking now"
(beat)
Me: "Brake now!"
(beat)
Me: "BRAKE!!!!!!!"
Her: (fully turning to me, and taking her feet off the pedals) "Don't you raise your voice at me like that!!"
Me: "FOR GOD'S SAKE f
kING BRAKE NOW OR WE CRASH!!!!!!"Needless to say I never sat in the passenger seat with her again until long after she passed her test.
And, yes, I think shouting may possibly have been warranted there, which I know kind of undermines my previous post.
edit: Although it does illustrate that shouting can be counter-productive.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Monday 17th October 23:36
Was it a near miss whilst you checked your mirrors did you look over your blind spot to check it was clear to join?
I don’t think shouting works tbh just creates an uncomfortable atmosphere especially if they’ve gone over the top
Maybe he should have talk the process asking you if it’s clear to proceed rather than just shout
I don’t think shouting works tbh just creates an uncomfortable atmosphere especially if they’ve gone over the top
Maybe he should have talk the process asking you if it’s clear to proceed rather than just shout
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