What glue to repair the headlining?
What glue to repair the headlining?
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Bill

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57,667 posts

280 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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The surface material along one edge has come away from the foam backing which is starting to crumble.

Any ideas?

Ussrcossack

944 posts

67 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Contact adhesive

President Merkin

4,297 posts

44 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I've just been through this with an old BMW Mini. It took three goes to get it to work.Three rounds of removing the headliner panel, all the associated interior bits that hold it in place, cutting fabric, gluing it on & refitting the lot only to watch it sag again within a week.

Two things from my experience, once the foam backing starts to disintegrate. there's no real saving the headliner, best to replace. It crumbles to dust & realistically, the glue has nothing to adhere to from that point. All the Youtube tutorials will tell you to use spray adhesive. I tried three different brands from Screwfix to 3M specific headliner adhesive & none of them worked. In the end, I used a tin of Wickes contact adhesive & applied it to the panel with a brush. Four months on & it's rock solid. Whiffed a bit for a few days but worked.

If I was doing it again, knowing what I know now, I'd dump the job on a trimmer. It's a pain in the arse.

otolith

66,240 posts

229 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Not headlining, but my experience of contact adhesive, which is supposed to be a suitable way of attaching new felt soles to wading boots, is that buying new wading boots is a better option!

Bill

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Monday 24th October 2022
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Hmmm. It's a shed so I want to invest the minimum cash/time that I can get away with. If it wasn't straight in front of the driver's seat I'd ignore it!

I'll have a look for contact adhesive, but do you think a coat of PVA would stabilise it first???

Deranged Rover

4,472 posts

99 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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if the foam backing is starting to crumble then it will never re-stick properly.

You need to remove the headlining completely, clean all the old foam off and then re-stick it using spray contact adhesive.

President Merkin

4,297 posts

44 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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The key thing is to get the panel as clean as possible. After three tries, mine was not great but trowelling on contact adhesive with a sacrificial brush worked.

In practice, the way to do it is to lay the new fabric over the panel, ensuring it's lined up straight, fold it back over itself hallfway & then apply glue in a line across the width of the panel which creates an anchor point for the fabric. Then more glue across half the panel & smooth the fabric by hand to the end of the panel, paying particular attention to nooks & crannies. What you don't want is to have tension on the fabric as it goes over thngs like grab handle recesses. That ups the risk of the fabric pulling away from the panel. Then repeat on the other half, trim it as required - good idea to fold it over the panel in places where the panel won't be covered by weatherstrip trims etc. such as at the front where the panel meets the windscreen.

Once you lay the fabric, you'll have a few minutes only to lift & adjust it if you have any ripples or folds before the adhesive starts to go off. It's a bit of a one shot thing, so it pays to take your time & get it right. I would imagine in the factory, they're pressed on which makes life easy I should think.

Doing the headliner is pretty easy, the real ag is ripping the interior out. Rear view mirror, grab handles, A,B & C pillar trims, interior lights...

Edited by President Merkin on Monday 24th October 12:20

HenryHippo

261 posts

121 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I don't consider my car a shed, but I had the head lining repaired near Poole for £280 earlier this year. By no means was it a pristine job (one of the courtesy lights stopped working and the sunroof close button opens it and the open button closes it!) but those issues were fixed easily and £280 was a steal, so didn't feel hard done by overall

Happy to share the garage's details with anyone here

Bill

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Monday 24th October 2022
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I've just slapped a load of contact adhesive on and stuck it down, so hopefully that's that...

The spinner of plates

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225 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Checking in for next months update wink

Bill

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Monday 24th October 2022
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It has to pass an MOT before then... whistle

paintman

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215 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Deranged Rover said:
if the foam backing is starting to crumble then it will never re-stick properly.

You need to remove the headlining completely, clean all the old foam off and then re-stick it using spray contact adhesive.
^^^That.
Common issue on Classic Range Rovers.

Need to use a high temperature tolerant adhesive.
Used these when I redid my Range Rover's headlining for the material & the adhesive.
www.martrim.co.uk/car-trimming-supplies/glues-and-...
Be warned though - their contact adhesive does what it says on the tin! Instant grab and NO leeway to slide things around a bit!


Edited by paintman on Monday 24th October 21:15

President Merkin

4,297 posts

44 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Bill said:
I've just slapped a load of contact adhesive on and stuck it down, so hopefully that's that...
you'll be back. wink

Deranged Rover

4,472 posts

99 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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paintman said:
^^^That.
Common issue on Classic Range Rovers.
Indeed. My headlining replacement experience was gained on a 1994 Vogue SE!

Bill

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Tuesday 25th October 2022
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President Merkin said:
you'll be back. wink
It passed the MOT so that has become a possibility! bounce