RE: Wiesmann MF5 GT | Spotted
RE: Wiesmann MF5 GT | Spotted
Sunday 30th October 2022

Wiesmann MF5 GT | Spotted

BMW's S85 V10 was epic in a 5 Series - now imagine it in a proper sports car...


After a tumultuous recent past, the future looks bright for Wiesmann. Development of its stunning Project Thunderball is underway, with reservations being accepted and deliveries due in 2023. Attention is being paid to keep the weight low and the entertainment value high, cornerstones of the Wiesmann appeal for decades now. That and the extraordinary design, of course, which Thunderball looks to have updated sympathetically and stylishly for the EV age. 

The enthusiasm for Wiesmann’s near future stems from its recent past - this isn’t another EV start-up promising the world. We’re expecting a lot from Thunderball because its combustion-engined cars were so beautifully done. The combination of BMW M powertrains with the firm’s Germanic approach really was a match made in heaven; the two-door M sports cars - cars like the Z4M and M6 - had never quite delivered on the potential, and the high revving, low torque screamers of the time were arguably better suited to lithe roadsters than ‘barnstorming saloons. It’s little wonder Wiesmann’s work attracted so much attention.  

The MF5 is perhaps the best-known model to have emerged from the Dulmen HQ. Previous MF cars had been BMW engined as well, including the M54 and S54 straight-sixes in the MF30 and MF3 respectively, plus a pair of V8s in the MF4 GT, but things got really serious for the MF5 GT. The E60 M5 powertrain, all 507hp and 383lb ft of it, was transplanted wholesale into a 1,400kg sports car. The BMW was fast already - the Wiesmann was on another level. It would reach 62mph in less than four seconds and, unshackled by a limiter, reach 200mph.  

It was the appropriate model, then, to celebrate 20 years of Wiesmann in 2008. The limited-run MF5 was offered in three specifications: ‘Elegant’ was silver with blue leather, ‘Style’ was matte white and ‘Sport’, as this car is, contrasted red detailing with a whole lotta black. It suits the hellraising hot rod nicely; where black might normally lessen a car’s impact, that’s never going to be a problem driving a Wiesmann. The silhouette, proportions and the way the MF5 crams so many details into such a compact footprint, means it’s impossible not to gawp.  

This one is number 16 of the 20 Anniversary specials, built in 2009 and with 11,000 miles recorded. Naturally, it’s absolutely pristine, because a Wiesmann is not the kind of car bought by the average enthusiast. This will have been cherished, surely, but enjoyed as well; the advert suggests its first owner only took delivery in 2015, with the car still on delivery mileage. It’s being offered by the dealer who originally sold it. 

The price? £140,000. Which is undoubtedly a lot of money. But what do you compare it to? The Wiesmann is a car that’s rarer and more attention-grabbing than many more expensive supercars, if that’s your bag, and the combination of 5.0-litre V10 and rear-drive sports car promises an unforgettable driving experience. Even with the SMG. But then people are out there doing manual conversions on M5s and M6s of the era - what a car this might be with six gears and a clutch pedal… 


SPECIFICATION | WIESMANN MF5 GT 20TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION

Engine: 4,999cc, V10
Transmission: 7-speed SMG automated manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 507@7,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 383@6,100rpm
MPG: 19.6 (in the M5)
CO2: 357g/km (in the M5)
Year registered: 2015 (built 2009)
Recorded mileage: 11,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for £140,000 

See the original advert here

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GreatScott2016

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1,903 posts

104 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Now that is one odd looking mother eek

Bright Halo

3,541 posts

251 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Wow!
That is like a Morgan on steroids. Fantastic thing.

pidsy

8,436 posts

173 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Love that.

I’d want it in a more interesting colour but what a thing!

carlo996

6,815 posts

37 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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I look at that and think….heat managementbiggrin

Always great looking cars to my eyes.

RATROD3

56 posts

132 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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So much want for this just stunning.

Maccmike8

1,355 posts

70 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Fantastic looking thing.

Silvanus

6,897 posts

39 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Yes yes and yes, just not in black. Needs to be a bright or a classic colour, would look amazing.







abzmike

10,425 posts

122 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Brilliant. In a world of madly priced restomods, 140K looks like a bargain.

MDMA .

9,612 posts

117 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Saw Classic Heroes name and thought this will be dear! Didn’t disappoint smile

Couldn’t you get one of these if you bought a huge German motor home? Or have a dreamt that?

I’ve dreamt it! It was on an old TG. Wrong car though.

https://youtu.be/DTefE6DYPCU

Edited by MDMA . on Sunday 30th October 10:34

ChocolateFrog

32,183 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Why does it look like it's got a gear stick?

I remember checking MF3 prices when I got my Chimaera thinking they maybe in the same ballpark.

How wrong was I.

Silvanus

6,897 posts

39 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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ChocolateFrog said:
Why does it look like it's got a gear stick?

I remember checking MF3 prices when I got my Chimaera thinking they maybe in the same ballpark.

How wrong was I.
It certainly looks like it, can see the knob and gaiter below the terrible looking aftermarket radio.

skylarking808

937 posts

102 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Always wanted an MF3 with a manual box.
Forgot these existed - must be a hoot with a V10 engine.

Not seen a Wiesmann on the road ever!

GTRene

19,258 posts

240 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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abzmike said:
Brilliant. In a world of madly priced restomods, 140K looks like a bargain.
it is a bargain!
even in Germany were they come from the cheapest MF5 which is not even a special like this one, cost at least 100k more!!

I saw the car on the web last week an saved the ad, oke I want a LHD but thought what the heck, for this price I would buy a RHD and save myself 100++k sadly I have no extra space and bringing it to the Netherlands means more Tax money will be added... which I don't have.

so be smart, buy this lovey superb car for this price, its a real bargain! and a lovely example, will never be made again and only a few are made, and in RHD not even a handful all together Wiesmann cars.

GTRene

19,258 posts

240 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Silvanus said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Why does it look like it's got a gear stick?

I remember checking MF3 prices when I got my Chimaera thinking they maybe in the same ballpark.

How wrong was I.
It certainly looks like it, can see the knob and gaiter below the terrible looking aftermarket radio.
its a automatic, a good one, but sadly a automatic.

GTRene

19,258 posts

240 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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here a small video with Patrick German but let the car speak.
at the end the track test fast round.


NGK210

3,956 posts

161 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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It’s rumoured that during a Saturday evening at home while drunk in the early 2000s, Ian Callum sat at his drawing board and sketched a 2-door S-type coupé concept.

When he went to his study the next day, full of remorse and intent on binning his embarrassingly kitsch jottings, he found that someone had stolen his drawings…

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

39 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Over 50% of the body would need to be protruding exiting a side road.
Looks lovely apart from the body and dash..


Water Fairy

6,155 posts

171 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Silvanus said:
Yes yes and yes, just not in black. Needs to be a bright or a classic colour, would look amazing.



Interesting. It's an ugly car and the lighter colour just shows it off even more. In black it's almost ok.

MF35

449 posts

37 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Always liked these. Superb car. Looks great too

RDMcG

20,005 posts

223 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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Absolutely superb- if this could have a manual it would be one of the world's great cars.