Those who shed..Is my car beyond shedding?
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Hi all,
I need some advice about my Vectra which has been a great workhorse and has been almost fault free over the 70k miles I've put on it, now just ticked over 200k.
Rewind to last year April the High-Pressure fuel pump started failing on me so I took a punt on the F5R Polish piston pump, which fit the bill perfectly due to the E10 fuel not being compatible with the old pumps and it also being much less expensive. It ran great for over a year until the seals started leaking.
I contacted F5R Poland who were happy to replace the seals inside the two year warranty period, I sent it via Royal Mail Signed for but with the value specified at £25 as per his instructions (maybe to clear customs quicker) however the Pump has got stuck or lost somewhere between customs and the destination, I've been trying to get in contact with their post office and a Polish mate at work is trying to contact them for me which is helpful. Luckily, I have my wife's car I can use for the 100 mile commute for a little while, but that can't last forever and the car is now sitting there like an inexpensive ornament.
If the scenario arises that the pump has been lost in the post, I can get awarded is £50 I'm then faced with a decision on what to do with a car with 200,000 miles on it.
Should I
1. Buy another Polish Pump and hope the car keeps going for a while yet but still another £300
2. offer it for sale to someone who wants to take it and has a pump for it.
3. Scrap it - looks like I can get £300 for it and get a car that doesn't have a fuel pump I can only get from Poland
It could start throwing big bills at me like a gearbox or Angie related bits, but at the same time I don't know another car for the money that's been so good.
Advice, please welcome please
p.s who's the guy how specialises in selling sheds on here?
Cheers
Austin
I need some advice about my Vectra which has been a great workhorse and has been almost fault free over the 70k miles I've put on it, now just ticked over 200k.
Rewind to last year April the High-Pressure fuel pump started failing on me so I took a punt on the F5R Polish piston pump, which fit the bill perfectly due to the E10 fuel not being compatible with the old pumps and it also being much less expensive. It ran great for over a year until the seals started leaking.
I contacted F5R Poland who were happy to replace the seals inside the two year warranty period, I sent it via Royal Mail Signed for but with the value specified at £25 as per his instructions (maybe to clear customs quicker) however the Pump has got stuck or lost somewhere between customs and the destination, I've been trying to get in contact with their post office and a Polish mate at work is trying to contact them for me which is helpful. Luckily, I have my wife's car I can use for the 100 mile commute for a little while, but that can't last forever and the car is now sitting there like an inexpensive ornament.
If the scenario arises that the pump has been lost in the post, I can get awarded is £50 I'm then faced with a decision on what to do with a car with 200,000 miles on it.
Should I
1. Buy another Polish Pump and hope the car keeps going for a while yet but still another £300
2. offer it for sale to someone who wants to take it and has a pump for it.
3. Scrap it - looks like I can get £300 for it and get a car that doesn't have a fuel pump I can only get from Poland
It could start throwing big bills at me like a gearbox or Angie related bits, but at the same time I don't know another car for the money that's been so good.
Advice, please welcome please
p.s who's the guy how specialises in selling sheds on here?
Cheers
Austin
Are there any breakers or have you tried the facebook groups for the model for a spare pump? Seems a shame to throw away a car that has been good to you, but you are right at this age there could be a whole host of problems around the corner. Mileage is not so much a concern or a reason to make the decision but rust and general mechanical condition.
Not forgotting also it will cost quite a lot of money to get into another equally good motor but if the time is right and cashflows stack up then cutting your losses and moving on is definitely a viable option.
Not forgotting also it will cost quite a lot of money to get into another equally good motor but if the time is right and cashflows stack up then cutting your losses and moving on is definitely a viable option.
VeeReihenmotor6 said:
Are there any breakers or have you tried the facebook groups for the model for a spare pump? Seems a shame to throw away a car that has been good to you, but you are right at this age there could be a whole host of problems around the corner. Mileage is not so much a concern or a reason to make the decision but rust and general mechanical condition.
Not forgotting also it will cost quite a lot of money to get into another equally good motor but if the time is right and cashflows stack up then cutting your losses and moving on is definitely a viable option.
The car has done me well for £900 quid but as you say it's a shame to throw away a car that is mechanically good, but options are getting thin.Not forgotting also it will cost quite a lot of money to get into another equally good motor but if the time is right and cashflows stack up then cutting your losses and moving on is definitely a viable option.
I want to keep the car, but even a used UK pump ranges from £300 up to £1000 for a new one
and then it's a hydrolic pump that needs to be rebuilt because the seals rot. The polish one is the only viable option cost wise, but I'm at the lap of the gods with the postage.Me personally I’d scrap it and try something else. Isn’t the point of shedding that you don’t spend loads of money on it and scrap it when something expensive like this happens? You’ve had a good innings with it.
On the other hand you have the “better the devil you know” with this car given you reckon everything else is good, plus it sounds to me like you don’t really want to get rid of it, plus used prices are very high right now, so whatever you replace it might not be as good.
On the other hand you have the “better the devil you know” with this car given you reckon everything else is good, plus it sounds to me like you don’t really want to get rid of it, plus used prices are very high right now, so whatever you replace it might not be as good.
aust240378 said:
The car has done me well for £900 quid but as you say it's a shame to throw away a car that is mechanically good, but options are getting thin.
I want to keep the car, but even a used UK pump ranges from £300 up to £1000 for a new one and then it's a hydrolic pump that needs to be rebuilt because the seals rot. The polish one is the only viable option cost wise, but I'm at the lap of the gods with the postage.
Blimey I see your dilemma now. As leftfield option how about buying a shed of vectra of the same model, steal the pump (and any other parts useful) and scrap it. Might work out cheaper overall or cost neutral.I want to keep the car, but even a used UK pump ranges from £300 up to £1000 for a new one
and then it's a hydrolic pump that needs to be rebuilt because the seals rot. The polish one is the only viable option cost wise, but I'm at the lap of the gods with the postage.If you still have the old pump then a quick google suggests that repair kits are around £20 on ebay.
OK they're from somewhere in China & no idea how long they might last, but worth a try.
Is there an owner's website that has a 'how to' on rebuilding them?
ETA Random google. I expect there would be a lot more on that website:
www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?222650-Y22ZH...
Was the same pump used on other Vauxhall models or was it used by other non Vauxhall vehicles?
That would give you a bit more of a chance for looking for a used replacement.
OK they're from somewhere in China & no idea how long they might last, but worth a try.
Is there an owner's website that has a 'how to' on rebuilding them?
ETA Random google. I expect there would be a lot more on that website:
www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?222650-Y22ZH...
Was the same pump used on other Vauxhall models or was it used by other non Vauxhall vehicles?
That would give you a bit more of a chance for looking for a used replacement.
also another place to try for rebuild or supply (they have a scrap yard - very tidy might i add). I had an alternator, starter motor and PAS pump rebuilt by them and it was done to perfection.
https://www.facebook.com/Bury-Farm-Car-Parts-10809...
Based near Bedford.
https://www.facebook.com/Bury-Farm-Car-Parts-10809...
Based near Bedford.
paintman said:
If you still have the old pump then a quick google suggests that repair kits are around £20 on ebay.
OK they're from somewhere in China & no idea how long they might last, but worth a try.
Is there an owner's website that has a 'how to' on rebuilding them?
ETA Random google. I expect there would be a lot more on that website:
www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?222650-Y22ZH...
Was the same pump used on other Vauxhall models or was it used by other non Vauxhall vehicles?
That would give you a bit more of a chance for looking for a used replacement.
The standard pump is hydraulic and not compatible with E10 fuel, the Polish pump which I had is a piston pump and E10 compatible which has gone missing in action on its way in the post.OK they're from somewhere in China & no idea how long they might last, but worth a try.
Is there an owner's website that has a 'how to' on rebuilding them?
ETA Random google. I expect there would be a lot more on that website:
www.vectra-c.com/forum/showthread.php?222650-Y22ZH...
Was the same pump used on other Vauxhall models or was it used by other non Vauxhall vehicles?
That would give you a bit more of a chance for looking for a used replacement.
I assume the issue is with the seals being affected by the E10.
Its effect on various fuel supply components has been much discussed on the Land Rover forums & the last time I did some top end work on my 3.5EFi Range Rover I replaced all the injection system fuel hoses with E10 compatible stuff.
Be worth asking if the seal kits are compatible.
If you did fit a set to your old pump it might just give you a bit of time while you're waiting for Postman Pat to find your Polish one - assuming it wasn't something else terminal in your old pump - and find E5 until it arrives.
Links to the fuel companies which might help www.thesun.co.uk/money/16012011/which-petrol-stati...
The youtube videos make it look straightforward.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDw-fX2bFrw
Its effect on various fuel supply components has been much discussed on the Land Rover forums & the last time I did some top end work on my 3.5EFi Range Rover I replaced all the injection system fuel hoses with E10 compatible stuff.
Be worth asking if the seal kits are compatible.
If you did fit a set to your old pump it might just give you a bit of time while you're waiting for Postman Pat to find your Polish one - assuming it wasn't something else terminal in your old pump - and find E5 until it arrives.
Links to the fuel companies which might help www.thesun.co.uk/money/16012011/which-petrol-stati...
The youtube videos make it look straightforward.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDw-fX2bFrw
200k and less than a months MOT?
Stick it on ebay with no reserve and an honest description and get rid of it - no point pumping £500+ into something that will be worth peanuts after and likely to throw another large bill (at that sort of mileage)
You can buy another shed for the price of replacing the pump
Stick it on ebay with no reserve and an honest description and get rid of it - no point pumping £500+ into something that will be worth peanuts after and likely to throw another large bill (at that sort of mileage)
You can buy another shed for the price of replacing the pump
mattman said:
200k and less than a months MOT?
Stick it on ebay with no reserve and an honest description and get rid of it - no point pumping £500+ into something that will be worth peanuts after and likely to throw another large bill (at that sort of mileage)
You can buy another shed for the price of replacing the pump
I can't say this is either a good or bad idea but I put a (very tired) early Mk2 Mondeo Diesel on eBay for a friend a month or so ago. Knackered clutch, DMF and no MOT. I was amazed that it sold for north of £600, friend was very pleased. Stick it on ebay with no reserve and an honest description and get rid of it - no point pumping £500+ into something that will be worth peanuts after and likely to throw another large bill (at that sort of mileage)
You can buy another shed for the price of replacing the pump
There's money in knackered old cars. Don't just scrap it.
paintman said:
I assume the issue is with the seals being affected by the E10.
Its effect on various fuel supply components has been much discussed on the Land Rover forums & the last time I did some top end work on my 3.5EFi Range Rover I replaced all the injection system fuel hoses with E10 compatible stuff.
Be worth asking if the seal kits are compatible.
If you did fit a set to your old pump it might just give you a bit of time while you're waiting for Postman Pat to find your Polish one - assuming it wasn't something else terminal in your old pump - and find E5 until it arrives.
Links to the fuel companies which might help www.thesun.co.uk/money/16012011/which-petrol-stati...
The youtube videos make it look straightforward.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDw-fX2bFrw
The old pump went ages ago, I've been using the polish one pump for a year and a half which just started leaking fuel through the seals, they have perfected the design and offered to strip it down and replace the seals with new ones as part of the two-year Warranty, which is where it is now, stuck in transit to Poland and why the car is undrivable Its effect on various fuel supply components has been much discussed on the Land Rover forums & the last time I did some top end work on my 3.5EFi Range Rover I replaced all the injection system fuel hoses with E10 compatible stuff.
Be worth asking if the seal kits are compatible.
If you did fit a set to your old pump it might just give you a bit of time while you're waiting for Postman Pat to find your Polish one - assuming it wasn't something else terminal in your old pump - and find E5 until it arrives.
Links to the fuel companies which might help www.thesun.co.uk/money/16012011/which-petrol-stati...
The youtube videos make it look straightforward.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDw-fX2bFrw
As posted , second hand sheds do tend to make decent money on Ebay, so no point in scrapping it at all.
I'd be tempted to give the pump another try, if you get a years motoring then your shed will still be worth more or less the same next year, plus you'd have had a years motoring for the cost of the pump, whereas buying another shed is a venture into the unknown, so the expense is mitigated somewhat.
There does come a tipping point , and depending on the MOT failure list (fingers crossed it passes), it might be that which does it, however, you're in a bit of a catch 22, immobile car needing a costly pump and an MOT which might end up being a large bill on top but can't get to the MOT without the pump...
I'd be tempted to give the pump another try, if you get a years motoring then your shed will still be worth more or less the same next year, plus you'd have had a years motoring for the cost of the pump, whereas buying another shed is a venture into the unknown, so the expense is mitigated somewhat.
There does come a tipping point , and depending on the MOT failure list (fingers crossed it passes), it might be that which does it, however, you're in a bit of a catch 22, immobile car needing a costly pump and an MOT which might end up being a large bill on top but can't get to the MOT without the pump...
mattman said:
200k and less than a months MOT?
Stick it on ebay with no reserve and an honest description and get rid of it - no point pumping £500+ into something that will be worth peanuts after and likely to throw another large bill (at that sort of mileage)
You can buy another shed for the price of replacing the pump
Why no reserve rather than the scrap price as the minimum price ?Stick it on ebay with no reserve and an honest description and get rid of it - no point pumping £500+ into something that will be worth peanuts after and likely to throw another large bill (at that sort of mileage)
You can buy another shed for the price of replacing the pump
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