The Benefit of Parking In Gear
The Benefit of Parking In Gear
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Original Poster:

9,873 posts

166 months

Friday 4th November 2022
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I saw this on my way into Tesco. The driver if the grey car wasn't there as there were several tannoy announcements for him while I was shopping. Handbrake error presumably.

When I returned 25 min later the grey car was still there. No too much damage to the front so presumably a low speed impact. Also fresh damage to the offside front wing. Looks like it hit at least one other car on its journey down the hill



The lane it is coming from is one way uphill so can't figure out how it ended up there. Reversed into a bay with the front wheels at 45 degrees so it turned downhill as it rolled out? Or if the wheels were straight it has rolled over 50 yards downhill.

At least it hit a car and not a person.

Edited by irc on Friday 4th November 15:41


Edited by irc on Friday 4th November 15:41

grumpyscot

1,293 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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If you've ever owned a Saab, you get used to always parking in gear - if you want to lock the car!

joropug

3,071 posts

219 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Don’t know if it’s the same mechanism but I had a Vectra C a long time ago , the handbrake had a warning on it if I recall to make sure you let the clicks engage when applying it.

I.E you don’t hold the button as you lift it. I’m not sure if you’re supposed to on all cars , been ages since I last had one!

I ignored said warning and my car was 1m further back out of an almost completely flat parking space an hour later!


Triumph Man

9,624 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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An advantage of a drum in disc set up - the top hat of the disc (the drum) contracts onto the shoes as the mechanism cools, rather than a solely disc based system where the disc cools and contracts the pads lose their grip - exacerbated by people not applying the handbrake fully.

smallpaul

2,107 posts

166 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Surely if you were the black car you would think "something is a bit odd here" with the car's position and speed and done something about it. Although looks like the minor bump might have prevented silver car entering a pedestrian area.

BadOrangePete

938 posts

74 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Had it before with my van. Got home one evening heard a beeping outside looked out the window to find it had rolled off the drive and was blocking the road, creating some traffic chaos in the meantime rolleyes Luckily didnt hit anything though, always left it in gear since!

randomeddy

1,631 posts

167 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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I remember some chaos caused a few years ago, it was a model of Citroën I think.

The handbrake worked on the front discs, discs cooled down, car no longer there.

fido

18,921 posts

285 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Conversely I keep forgetting to check if the MX-5 is in gear since i got used to driving DCT. Started to do the ‘wiggle’ every time I start it on a hill (which is the only time I leave it in gear).

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

265 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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I always park my car in gear.

Only once has the steepness of the hill overcome the friction of the small engine of my SX4.

Kuwahara

1,564 posts

48 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Xantia’s worked on the fronts…

Monkeylegend

29,508 posts

261 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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grumpyscot said:
If you've ever owned a Saab, you get used to always parking in gear - if you want to lock the car!
Reverse gear from memory?

Ron240

4,057 posts

149 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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I have always in my 38 years of driving parked every manual car I have owned (or had regular use of) in gear.
The only reason I can think of for anybody not to do this is because they are simply not in the habit and dont understand the benefits of doing so and could not trust themselves to remember the car was in gear when starting the engine. That last point brings about another good habit to press down on the clutch before starting.
There has always been a recognised benefit in leaving a vehicle parked in gear, and slowly they are being made idiot proof by electronic handbrakes that come on automatically when the engine is stopped, and starting only possible with clutch depressed.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

265 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Ron240 said:
idiot proof by electronic handbrakes that come on automatically when the engine is stopped,
This wrong thinking has led to a few errors as reported on PH. hehe You do need to engage the park brake with the pedal. 99.99% of the time when you pull up your foot is on the brake, so it seems that turning the engine off engages the brake. Fact is if you roll to a stop (but, who ever does that?) the park brake does not engage.

There you are, a little known fact. (apart from the people who have let their car run down the hill hehe)

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

265 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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..on most cars that is, not saying all

Panda nero

407 posts

49 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
grumpyscot said:
If you've ever owned a Saab, you get used to always parking in gear - if you want to lock the car!
Reverse gear from memory?
Yes , and park for an automatic .

CanAm

14,102 posts

302 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Ron240 said:
I have always in my 38 years of driving parked every manual car I have owned (or had regular use of) in gear.
The only reason I can think of for anybody not to do this is because they are simply not in the habit and dont understand the benefits of doing so and could not trust themselves to remember the car was in gear when starting the engine. That last point brings about another good habit to press down on the clutch before starting.
There has always been a recognised benefit in leaving a vehicle parked in gear, and slowly they are being made idiot proof by electronic handbrakes that come on automatically when the engine is stopped, and starting only possible with clutch depressed.
My 10 years old tin-top with manual handbrake requires the clutch pedal to be pressed to start the engine.

ChevronB19

9,198 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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Kuwahara said:
Xantia’s worked on the fronts…
Same with BX and Alfasud/Alfasud Sprint

Ron240

4,057 posts

149 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
..on most cars that is, not saying all
Agreed, and newer Mercedes cars do engage the electronic parking brake when the engine is turned off.
On a related subject auto hold is a popular feature nowadays (i never use it), but it is important to remember it is is not a parking brake.

Ron240

4,057 posts

149 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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CanAm said:
My 10 years old tin-top with manual handbrake requires the clutch pedal to be pressed to start the engine.
My first car that required this procedure was a 2012 Focus, which was my reason for mentioning it in the first place. smile

NDA

25,739 posts

255 months

Saturday 5th November 2022
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I was in B&Q many years ago when the voice over the speakers said "would the owner of a Morgan please go to the car park". It was me and some chap was very kindly holding it back as it had started to roll... First (and last) time that had ever happened.