RE: Superb manual Aston Vanquish S for sale
RE: Superb manual Aston Vanquish S for sale
Friday 25th November 2022

Superb manual Aston Vanquish S for sale

There's not an undesirable V12 Vanquish out there, but some are a little more special than others


We saw this coming, right? Even by the standards of the early 21st century, the automated manual was a bit rubbish. The transmissions have their defenders, but it’s hard not to imagine what might have been. Instead of being fitted gearboxes that aren’t as smooth as autos or as engaging as manuals, think of cars like the BMW M3 CSL, Maserati Gransport, Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale and Lexus LFA with one of the dual-clutchers or torque converters that came just a few years later. They’d be even more brilliant.

The market now reflects that, of course. Where conventional manuals were offered alongside automated ones, the former now command a big premium. We’re even seeing conversions now, too, where auto-only models are being swapped for conventional H-patterns or even DCTs. It wouldn’t be fair to say the automated manual cars are languishing, but they certainly aren’t as desirable to those customers spoilt by modern auto boxes. And good manuals are always good…

Aston Martin saw this coming years ago, perhaps because - sorry guys - the V12 Vanquish’s paddle shift auto really wasn’t great, even compared to similar transmissions of the time. Through Aston Works, customers of the glorious VH flagship could have the standard gearbox replaced with a six-speed manual. It cost around £15k, which would always have been at least 10 per cent of the car’s worth - if not a bit more. A significant investment, then, but one it’s believed around 100 customers have gone for. And with good reason; when PH drove a development car, it was described as ‘the car it perhaps ought to have been’. It was better in traffic than the jerky auto, just as fast (if not a bit more so) and heaps more engaging.

This is one of the converted cars, a 2005 Vanquish S, and what a specimen it is. This car was converted really early on, in 2009 at fewer than 12,000 miles, meaning it’s spent a lot more of its life (if not that many miles) as a Works manual Vanquish S. Beyond the obvious appeal of that 5.9-litre V12 in 520hp spec with the six-speed, this is a beautiful example. Still with just 18,100 miles, the ad suggests the paint is unmarked and the interior still smells like new. It has an extensive history from both Aston Works and a main dealer, and will get to its next owner freshly serviced.

It's for sale at £115,000, which makes it one of the more expensive V12 Vanquishes, though there isn’t a huge premium to pay for the manual. This S, by comparison, is £110k with the standard gearbox and just four thousand fewer miles. Unsurprisingly given its reception and following, the later, more powerful model is highly coveted. Ordinary 460hp autos are from £60,000, for some idea of the difference. What might have been, eh? Perhaps automated manuals will come back into fashion as we crave any kind of mechanical interaction. That’s not clear just yet; but for as long as we can have it, a manual V12 Vanquish S is always going to be something very special indeed.


See the original advert here

 

 

 

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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

45,006 posts

210 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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I'd love to experience the V12/3 pedal manual combo. Plus these have always looked really good too. Very nice.

Iamnotkloot

1,915 posts

177 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Yeah that's lovely.

But if the unloved auto is to be had from £60k, can't you buy one, take it to AM and get it like this one for a total bill of £75k, a substantial saving?

Or don't AM offer this service anymore?

benboy123

14 posts

179 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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One of the best looking cars ever made!! Such a classic shape and design, just oozes 007!

wpa1975

14,784 posts

144 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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One of the best looking Astons, stunning

ate one too

2,914 posts

176 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Iamnotkloot said:
Yeah that's lovely.

But if the unloved auto is to be had from £60k, can't you buy one, take it to AM and get it like this one for a total bill of £75k, a substantial saving?

Or don't AM offer this service anymore?
The cheapest Vanquish S in the classifieds is £80k ....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14193664

Silvanus

6,917 posts

53 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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I absolutely loved these when they were new. I was lucky enough to get to take one out for a drive unfortunately it was a case of never meet you heros.

Vee12V

1,411 posts

190 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Even at 115k I can't see this being a bad buy. Lots of VFM and this one's definitely futureproof.

Cold

16,733 posts

120 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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benboy123 said:
One of the best looking cars ever made!! Such a classic shape and design, just oozes 007!
wpa1975 said:
One of the best looking Astons, stunning
Minority voice here. I don't agree. It's always looked awkward to me, disjointed almost. It's as if the various elements were designed at different times then welded together once they had collected enough ideas to make a whole car.



anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Cold said:
benboy123 said:
One of the best looking cars ever made!! Such a classic shape and design, just oozes 007!
wpa1975 said:
One of the best looking Astons, stunning
Minority voice here. I don't agree. It's always looked awkward to me, disjointed almost. It's as if the various elements were designed at different times then welded together once they had collected enough ideas to make a whole car.

Agreed, that profile shot is an absolute mess

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

71 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Do not understand the love for these.
To these eyes that is not a good looking car how ever you want to frame it.

Edited by Slowlygettingit on Friday 25th November 13:10

sticks090460

1,125 posts

188 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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That really hasn’t aged well at all. The profile shot above really highlights the issues.

Arbs

143 posts

205 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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£15k seems cheap for a conversion like that, imagine the cost if it were offered today on a new model

TheMilkyBarKid

884 posts

59 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Another one in the pass camp I’m afraid, they just look a bit heavy handed to me. I much prefer the looks of the second gen Vanquish, like this one for example:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14078416

As they are generally a similar price that’s where my money would go if I was after my AM V12 fill. Except actually it wouldn’t, it’d go on a V12 Vantage over both!

Filibuster

3,406 posts

245 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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Those Vanquish are absolutely gorgeous!!! Not beautiful like a DB4 or a 2004 V8 Vantage, but muscular and purposeful.
The shade of silver is one or two tones too light imho.

I must be one of the few who doesn't mind the original gearbox. You need to learn how to drive it and it certainly is not an ideal car, neither for city nor track driving. But treat it as the heavy beast it is and it becomes a wonderful driving experience.

Dombilano

1,463 posts

85 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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My favourite Aston, not sure I'd pay the premium for three pedals though

Iamnotkloot

1,915 posts

177 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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ate one too said:
Iamnotkloot said:
Yeah that's lovely.

But if the unloved auto is to be had from £60k, can't you buy one, take it to AM and get it like this one for a total bill of £75k, a substantial saving?

Or don't AM offer this service anymore?
The cheapest Vanquish S in the classifieds is £80k ....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14193664
Good point, but still a saving over this.

Iamnotkloot

1,915 posts

177 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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biggbn said:
Cold said:
benboy123 said:
One of the best looking cars ever made!! Such a classic shape and design, just oozes 007!
wpa1975 said:
One of the best looking Astons, stunning
Minority voice here. I don't agree. It's always looked awkward to me, disjointed almost. It's as if the various elements were designed at different times then welded together once they had collected enough ideas to make a whole car.

Agreed, that profile shot is an absolute mess
Not it's best angle, I agree, though this view is much better. They look good in the flesh too.

21ATS

1,105 posts

102 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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For some reason I remember the cost of this conversion with AM as being £30K now.

Matt Farah shipped his car over to have it done (the Ralph Lauren Vanquish) maybe it was $30K?

£15K does seem a bit a cheap by AM standards for a manual swap.

EDIT:- maybe the £15K was back in the day when they were still new.

Mosdef

1,849 posts

257 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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They had the wow factor when they were new and to many, they still have that but it’s a really poorly resolved design. The rear arches hang wide of the wheels, some spacers might sort that out. The Callum redesign fixed many of the design issues (nasty front fog lights for example) but the new Vanquish is infinitely more attractive.

ate one too

2,914 posts

176 months

Friday 25th November 2022
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As far as I can deduce , the manual conversion was £13,250 + vat (£15,900) over 15 years ago.

I would hazard a guess you could double that now.