How long before giving up on Insurance?
How long before giving up on Insurance?
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Simon Bags

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674 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Morning Everybody. Long story as short as possible. My Father had a chap sharply pull in front of him and damage the front end of his car. They pulled over, exchanged details, insurance, e-mail address, phone numbers, the fella admitted liability at the scene and asked if we could sort this without going through insurance. No problem. The following day, my Father gets a quote of £1300 to repair his car from a body shop I know.

That same day, we get an e-mail from this fella saying he's contacted his insurance Company and the matter is now with them. Ok, no problem.

That was 3 weeks ago. We've e-mailed him asking for an update, 4 times, no reply. We've tried contacting my Father's Insurers (Saga), pretty much twice a day for the last 14 days, they never answer the phone and when we did get through they promised a call back. We're still waiting.

How long before you give up and my Father just goes and gets his car repaired? Is there anything else you suggest we do?

Thanks for your time.

Simon.


BertBert

21,287 posts

241 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Doesn't make much sense. Are you saying it's impossible to put a claim in with his own ins co?

Alorotom

12,788 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Ring his insurance and hassle them

Alternatively put it in the hands of a claim management company they’ll sort it (albeit at great expense) but that’s their fault for tardy behaviour.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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BertBert said:
Doesn't make much sense. Are you saying it's impossible to put a claim in with his own ins co?
You mean put in a claim with my Father's Insurance Co, Saga? Against this chap? We'd love to but Saga won't answer the phone or call us back after leaving details.

LooneyTunes

9,441 posts

188 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Simon Bags said:
BertBert said:
Doesn't make much sense. Are you saying it's impossible to put a claim in with his own ins co?
You mean put in a claim with my Father's Insurance Co, Saga? Against this chap? We'd love to but Saga won't answer the phone or call us back after leaving details.
Yes, you should be getting your dad’s insurance company to sort it.

If Saga genuinely won’t respond, look for details of their complaints email/phone number and use that.

You pay them to sort exactly this sort of situation.

ETA: there is a risk that this chap isn’t actually insured and he’s BSing you about it being “with his insurers” after the quote to fix “away from insurers” was higher than he expected, if in fact he ever intended to pay anything at all.

Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Simon Bags said:
You mean put in a claim with my Father's Insurance Co, Saga? Against this chap? We'd love to but Saga won't answer the phone or call us back after leaving details.
I don't know whether going through your dad's insurance, or through the third party isurance, is best in your father's circumstance - but if I wanted to talk to my insurer and they didn't pick up the phone, I wouldn't let that stop me trying to talk to them. Keep at it, or escalate through their complaints procedure if necessary. If your dad wants to make a claim through his insurer, he has a right to talk to them!

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Saga claims number is 08000015424. If you are saying they don't answer that I'm afraid I don't believe you.

fezst

257 posts

154 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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If Saga haven’t picked up the phone for 2 weeks you’re either not trying hard enough or ringing the wrong number

Pica-Pica

16,639 posts

114 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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As said. Go through your insurance company. You have all the third party’s details. It is up to your insurance company to deal with the claim.

A similar thing happened to me years ago. I just got mine repaired, paid my excess, and then my insurance company claimed against the other party, and I got my excess back.

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Fyi on background info. Saga and the AA are the same company, merged in 2007.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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CraigyMc said:
Saga claims number is 08000015424. If you are saying they don't answer that I'm afraid I don't believe you.
Ok thankyou, but I assure you that after waiting in queues, saying we're x callers away from being answered, that the lines are very busy, we haven't managed to speak to anyone as yet.

Actually, that's not strictly true. My Father called them at 6am the other day, got through to someone who can't deal with any enquiries but took all the details, gave us a reference number, and promised we would hear from them within 2 days. That was last Wednesday.

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Simon Bags said:
CraigyMc said:
Saga claims number is 08000015424. If you are saying they don't answer that I'm afraid I don't believe you.
Ok thankyou, but I assure you that after waiting in queues, saying we're x callers away from being answered, that the lines are very busy, we haven't managed to speak to anyone as yet.

Actually, that's not strictly true. My Father called them at 6am the other day, got through to someone who can't deal with any enquiries but took all the details, gave us a reference number, and promised we would hear from them within 2 days. That was last Wednesday.
I phoned them right before I posted and got through.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
As said. Go through your insurance company. You have all the third party’s details. It is up to your insurance company to deal with the claim.

A similar thing happened to me years ago. I just got mine repaired, paid my excess, and then my insurance company claimed against the other party, and I got my excess back.
Thank you.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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CraigyMc said:
I phoned them right before I posted and got through.
We'll carry on trying. Thanks.

cheesejunkie

5,312 posts

47 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Alorotom said:
Ring his insurance and hassle them

Alternatively put it in the hands of a claim management company they’ll sort it (albeit at great expense) but that’s their fault for tardy behaviour.
First time I made a claim I didn't even realise I was putting it in the hands of a claims management company as it was the route my insurer preferred.

Chat over the fence with the next door neighbour. He runs a claims management company and got mildly annoyed that I didn't consider using him, we're still friends.

I have my doubts on some of the claims management firms on who's side they're acting on but I'd tend to agree that would be a good way to ratchet it up.

Alorotom

12,788 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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cheesejunkie said:
Alorotom said:
Ring his insurance and hassle them

Alternatively put it in the hands of a claim management company they’ll sort it (albeit at great expense) but that’s their fault for tardy behaviour.
First time I made a claim I didn't even realise I was putting it in the hands of a claims management company as it was the route my insurer preferred.

Chat over the fence with the next door neighbour. He runs a claims management company and got mildly annoyed that I didn't consider using him, we're still friends.

I have my doubts on some of the claims management firms on who's side they're acting on but I'd tend to agree that would be a good way to ratchet it up.
They are on their own side and make a very healthy profit out of claims hence why normally they should be avoided as they are the main reason insurance prices are as high - but they do get things done

_Hoppers

1,714 posts

95 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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When my friend's neighbour scratched my bumper I took it to BMW (Vertu) for a quoute. They said they could deal with the claim without me having to go through my insurer, which they did. I even got a Merc C220D for a week and a half. It was a completely 'pain free' process!

The big yin

298 posts

71 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Steve Kingshott Chief Executive

Email steve.kingshott@saga.co.uk


Telephone 01303 771111
Switchboard 01303 771111
Website https://www.saga.co.uk

Postal Address Enbrook Park, Sandgate, Folkestone, Kent, CT20 3SEM

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Just a small update. After waiting 25 minutes for someone to answer, we finally got through to Saga Claims. We were then told that SAGA no longer deal directly with Motor Claims and have outsourced to another Company (VCAS? or something like that), we were transferred and then promptly cut off.

Keep on trying I guess.

vikingaero

13,399 posts

199 months

Wednesday 30th November 2022
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Simon Bags said:
Just a small update. After waiting 25 minutes for someone to answer, we finally got through to Saga Claims. We were then told that SAGA no longer deal directly with Motor Claims and have outsourced to another Company (VCAS? or something like that), we were transferred and then promptly cut off.

Keep on trying I guess.
Call up again. Ask if the call is being recorded (it will be) and say you wish to lodge a complaint (the magic C word).

Ask for claims to call you back the same day or you will escalate the complaint to the Ombudsman.