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[essayer]

Both, like normal cars have

[Dieci]

My car was made in 1992 and has a similar level of electric stuff as a Morris Minor .

[paradigital]

essayer said:

Both, like normal cars have

This.

[Rozzers]

Where is the option for big enough windows to see out?

[CarCrazyDad]

paradigital said:

essayer said:

Both, like normal cars have

This.

Yes. Both. I don't know any modern cars that don't have both?

[Hoofy]

Never tried a camera. Sensors are useful.

[E63eeeeee...]

essayer said:

Both, like normal cars have

All three, like proper cars have.

Auto park is witchcraft.

[David87]

Tesla, in their wisdom, have just removed ultrasonic parking sensors from all of their cars.

[CarCrazyDad]

Because sensors are an additional warning?

Like having an alarm and immobiliser :-)

[Speed addicted]

My 2015 Mitsubishi L200 has a rear camera only, no sensors.
Ideally I’d like both as the camera is often dirty after driving somewhere or flared out by low sun.

Of course I could fit sensors but I've only had it a couple of years!

[Muddle238]

EmailAddress said:

Personally, I don't get the point of sensors if you can see everything around you. Seems like overkill.

Sensors pick up the things you can’t see.

[LuS1fer]

Sensors are bleedin' annoying and bleep as I pass things like a bush as I back out of my drive. I know there are different tones, front and rear but I can never recall which is which. The proximity "map" is better.

I have a rear camera which is reasonably good but I still don't trust it and it's still hard to gauge how quickly that gap closes and how small it actually is. That said, it's better than my own sense of when I need to stop, I end up leaving a large gap. It is useful in reversing, however and using the lines to keep it on course.

[E63eeeeee...]

David87 said:

Tesla, in their wisdom, have just removed ultrasonic parking sensors from all of their cars.

What, did they sneak into people's garages, like an inverse Santa?

[ajprice]

Sensors, camera, and those reflective things sticking out of the sides .

My car has a rear camera and rear sensors. How well do the 360 cameras and top down view stitched together from the 4 cameras work for parking in real use?

[David87]

E63eeeeee... said:

What, did they sneak into people's garages, like an inverse Santa?

I missed the word ‘new’ off my post. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if they nuked them with an over-the-air update when they’re deemed unnecessary.

[parabolica]

CarCrazyDad said:

paradigital said:

essayer said:

Both, like normal cars have

This.

Yes. Both. I don't know any modern cars that don't have both?

2021 Corolla Sedan; I have one as a company car at the moment and it only has a camera, no sensors.

ETA it also has a roof and bonnet made from tinfoil; perfectly nice car drive but it’s built to a very low budget as can be told by feeling the roof skin ripple as you run the wash sponge over it; doors are also as light as a sheet of paper. Very quiet inside at speed though.

ajprice said:

Sensors, camera, and those reflective things sticking out of the sides .

My car has a rear camera and rear sensors. How well do the 360 cameras and top down view stitched together from the 4 cameras work for parking in real use?

Worked extremely well on my V60.

Edited by parabolica on Tuesday 29th November 23:37

[The spinner of plates]

Rozzers said:

Where is the option for big enough windows to see out?

Where’s the option for just knowing where the edges of your car are?

[DoctorX]

and my V60 too. Auto parking is fantastic for slotting into spaces I wouldn’t attempt without.

[E63eeeeee...]

The spinner of plates said:

Rozzers said:

Where is the option for big enough windows to see out?

Where’s the option for just knowing where the edges of your car are?

I know exactly where the edges of my car are. It's all the other stuff I need help with.