RE: Restored Opel Monza 3.0 GSE for sale
RE: Restored Opel Monza 3.0 GSE for sale
Sunday 4th December 2022

Restored Opel Monza 3.0 GSE for sale

Not only has it been lavished with £100k of TLC, this Monza GSE also comes with a Carlton GSi 3000 24v motor


There are cars that you want, and then there are a few, rare models that you want, want. A want that seems to arise from deep within your soul and takes over your whole being. A sort of primeval want, on the same level as the need to breathe, eat and sleep. Yes, I want a Ferrari 250 SWB and an Aston Martin DB5, and all manner of other recognised icons, but I want this Opel Monza GSE more. The only question is, does the price of a kidney cover the £27,495 asking price? If it does, sign me up.

I was having a geeky conversation with some other motoring journalists the other day about once relatively ordinary cars that we all crave now. Cars like the Peugeot 405 Mi16 and its French cousin, the Citroen BX GTI 16v – cars that are now so rare that you’ll find more toothy hens than examples of those breeds. Well, we all forgot about the Opel Monza in that meeting of tiny minds.

I love it because it hails from a simpler time, when big, hearty coupes didn’t have to have a BMW or Mercedes badge to impress. This was a car that engendered admiration in anyone with sense, despite coming from the General Motors stable. The Monza began life as the A1 model that was produced from 1977 to 1982. This was a car that competed with the Mercedes C123 and BMW 6 Series, and it was a handsome car from the off. It was also spacious inside, with room for four in its relatively upmarket interior.

Not only that but it was a tidy car to drive.  The basic platform it shared with the Senator and Rekord was a decent one, with MacPherson struts at the front and independent trailing-arm suspension at the rear. It bestowed upon the big Opel (or Vauxhall Royale as it was also badged at that time) nimble handling and a comfortable ride. Added to that was a range of straight-six motors that were as dependable as they were smooth.

By 1982 the car had received a facelift and became the A2. The overall shape was the same beguiling, teardrop silhouette, but with a more streamlined nose that incorporated larger headlights. At the back, the number plate was lowered and integrated into the bumper and the space was filled to make the taillights appear full-width feature. That was very of the time, as were the far more modern-looking, one-piece plastic bumpers front and rear. Along with its fresher look, the changes also improved the aerodynamics and that, in turn, helped the fuel economy – up to that point not one of the Monza’s strengths.

Another aid to efficiency was the fitment of Bosch electronic fuel injection to the 2.5E and 3.0E ‘sixes’. And part way through 1983, the 3.0 GSE model was introduced. This came with sporting additions such as Recaro seats, which were nice, but nothing like as exciting as the digital instruments that had small children (and more than a few adults) transfixed at motor shows. The GSE also had firmer suspension, a limited-slip diff and, naturally for a sporty model in the ‘80s, a boot spoiler.

The GSE developed a very handy 180hp, which was good enough for 0-62mph in around 8.5 seconds with the five-speed Getrag manual ‘box. However, this car doesn’t have a manual 'box. It’s an auto - but before you all groan (admittedly, that wouldn’t have been my choice, either) check out the other addition. An easy win was fitting the later Carlton GSi 3000 24-valve engine because it was a straight swap, and that’s what we have here. And the twin-cam head and dual-ram breathing mean it’s good for 204hp.

According to the advert this car has had a scarcely believable £100,000 spent on restoring it. That certainly proves it’s not just me beleaguered by a primeval want of an Opel Monza. The advert says there are bills to prove the spend, but it’s not hard to believe a good deal of cash has been bestowed upon this Monza just by looking at its condition. The car presents fabulously in midnight blue with two-tone anthracite and silver cross-spoke 15-inch alloys.

If, like me, you’re a sucker for an ‘80s icon and needed reminding a) of what a fantastic-looking thing the Monza and b) that it existed at all, then I hope you appreciate this one as much as I have.


Specification | Opel Monza 3.0 GSE (standard form)

Engine: 2,969cc, straight six, naturally aspirated
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 180@5,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 183@4,600-4,800rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: N/A
Recorded mileage: 86,000
Year registered: 1984
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £27,495

See the full ad here

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Bencolem

Original Poster:

1,183 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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I’m calling custard on that £100,000 spend…

Don Roque

18,280 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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How did anyone manage to spend £100,000 on that? Did they fill the tyres with supermodel farts or something? If the previous owner had spent such an amount on it, why are they selling it for less than a third of that sum?


leef44

5,184 posts

182 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Yes that takes some imagination to believe £100k has been spent.

I love this 80's look. The seats are so retro, shame about the tear in the back seat.

The dash - is that the same as the mk2 Astra GTE?

180bhp must have been awsome back in 1984.

wibble cb

4,148 posts

236 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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When I was about 11 we moved to a new house, our new next door neighbour owned the Vauxhall version, Keith was a retired bank manager, it suited him well, but I preferred this version!

markbmw

130 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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If the previous owner spent even half the claimed 100k, then tried selling it for 50k to recoup their spend, they'd be laughed at. If it was for sale at 100k, would you be more inclined to believe the claimed spend?
The description clearly states the spend is documented. If I were the seller, I wouldn't give a st about randoms calling bullst when those same randoms have no intention of making a serious enquiry.

Leins

10,422 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Being Irish, the Monza for me is inextricably linked to “Mr Eurovision” Johnny Logan



Throw a Senator into the mix and you’re too cool for even shoes


SimonTheSailor

13,002 posts

257 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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The Late Brake Show did a 'barn find' on one recently (a barn find as in somebody who owned it parked it in their mother's garage and left it rolleyes)

Lovely metallic red example - looked great.

KPB1973

938 posts

128 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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When I was a kid, a fella on our street won the Pools and this was what he bought...a Monza in white. It looked like a supercar to my 8 year old eyes in 1981!

mike74

3,687 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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markbmw said:
If the previous owner spent even half the claimed 100k, then tried selling it for 50k to recoup their spend, they'd be laughed at. If it was for sale at 100k, would you be more inclined to believe the claimed spend?
The description clearly states the spend is documented. If I were the seller, I wouldn't give a st about randoms calling bullst when those same randoms have no intention of making a serious enquiry.
I'm guessing you don't really understand what the whole point of an internet discussion forum is all about.

You seem rather angry, is it not getting much interest?

mersontheperson

732 posts

194 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Maybe the original poster is just standing up for the little guy and has some understandable indignation over people calling in to questions someone’s integrity without any good reason and thought he would take the time to stand up for him.
Surely the point of a discussion forum is that you should be able to handle it if someone calls out something that might come across as unfair.

ballans

937 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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I had a C reg black one of these. Unfortunately I never got to drive as it was completely rotten. Bulkhead, turrets, inner wings and sills all paper thin and could punch straight through. Shame as it looked great on the inside and outside but the rust meant it was only good for scrap……….unless you wanted to spend £100k restoring.
I paid £90 for it then resold for £140 to chap who only wanted it for the seats.
Fabulous looking car though, would have loved to have cruised about in it.

SimmoJon

43 posts

120 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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markbmw said:
If the previous owner spent even half the claimed 100k, then tried selling it for 50k to recoup their spend, they'd be laughed at. If it was for sale at 100k, would you be more inclined to believe the claimed spend?
The description clearly states the spend is documented. If I were the seller, I wouldn't give a st about randoms calling bullst when those same randoms have no intention of making a serious enquiry.
Exactly. The negativity here is sometimes nauseating.

robemcdonald

9,983 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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If I had £28k I’d be on that like a tramp on chips.

As for the £100k… I don’t really care, but how long would a nut and bolt restoration actually take on a Monza?

Things like sourcing parts or repairing that dash would be very time consuming.

The real question is why you’d ever sell a car you’d spent that much money on is another question.

86wasagoodyear

965 posts

125 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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My great uncle had a Vauxhall Royale, metallic bronze it was with brown velour interior. I only ever rode in it once, never forgotten. 8 year-old me, sports mad and hooked at the time on on the wild Turbo-era F1 and mostly-sideways World Rally Championship, was seriously impressed sinking into the soft squishy rear seat and effortlessly, luxuriously wafting along.

2 GKC

2,307 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Great design

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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A mates dad had a couple of those brand new. Mate @ around 16 was showing off to us, started it up, took out the garage wall at their house! Went down well..

My dad had a Manta gte at the time, after a few Capris

V8covin

10,126 posts

222 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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leef44 said:
180bhp must have been awsome back in 1984.
My brother had one,I had a 3-ltr Capri,from 30 to an indicated 120 there was nothing in it

Slowlygettingit

938 posts

70 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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I had a promotional jigsaw - I think from the 1982 motor show, certainly from that era. It was the Monza on one side and I think the Carlton / Rekord on the other. Mainly did it on the Monza side.
I thought I had a lot of love for these - certainly did back in the day. Having seen the pictures Im massively underwhelmed. Maybe it’s the black wheels......

rigga

8,805 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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Used to work on and drive these as a young vauxhall apprentice mechanic, lovely cars, but I'd have mine in white.

chickensoup

469 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th December 2022
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all that hassle to change the engine, and they did not add an extra pedal