RE: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 (996) | The Brave Pill
RE: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 (996) | The Brave Pill
Saturday 17th December 2022

Porsche 911 Carrera 4 (996) | The Brave Pill

Spotless examples of the 996 are creeping up in value - ditto those with spots...


The idea of a winter car is a familiar one to those who possess multiple vehicles of varying degrees of niceness. The concept is a broad one, and although it is usually applied to something cheap and semi-disposable that can keep salt (and miles) off nicer warm weather cars, others will prefer something more exciting.

This is what, indirectly, brings us to this week’s Pill. A few years ago I visited a well-known supercar specialist for a story, this being during the summer. The average value of the stock in the showroom was well into six figures, making a curious contrast with a dusty looking 996 Carrera 4 that was parked around the back. Presuming it was an unwanted part-ex I was wondering about making a cheeky offer, but it turned out to be the millionaire proprietor’s winter wheels and categorically not for sale. Apparently, it came out of its hibernation every autumn, and, wearing a set of winter tyres, was pretty much unstoppable in slippery conditions.

Beyond the fact that earlier 996 had a black interior and lacked a private registration, it was pretty much identical to this week’s Pill. This is another AWD Carrera 4 with a manual gearbox, plus a similar six-figure mileage. But while the earlier car apparently owed its canny owner less than £10,000 six years ago, this one is up for nearly 50 per cent more. That’s because, from their very low ebb, 996 prices have started to creep up, and while it’s not long since £15,000 would have been enough to buy a Carrera 4S these days it represents the bottom of the market for 996 manual coupes. This is the cheapest currently in the classifieds not to have a declared mechanical fault; the fact it is the rarer and more winter-friendly Carrera 4 is therefore a definite bonus.

The advert text for our Pill isn’t short on details, but it is short on correct details. The spec panel promises 155hp, a turbocharged engine and the prospect of 43.5mpg - all being obviously wrong for a 996’s highly bred flat-six, especially the last one. Searching for the MOT history on the registration our Pill is wearing brings a likely explanation, as it now refers to an Alfa Romeo MiTo, presumably one wearing a freshly reassigned private plate.

But we don’t give up easily, especially as the vendor has helpfully included a comprehensive array of images, including several of the service history. We sent Ferruccio, the GDPR-trained database hamster, to inspect these in detail. His conclusion was that the seller hasn’t been as diligent in the application of black boxes as they probably should have been, but he did also find another registration which brought up the correct MOT history. A record that looks as green and upbeat as Daniel O’ Donnell’s greatest hits, especially by the standards of bargain 911s. Our Pill has had nothing more serious than unscary advisories since 2016, and also seems to have been in constant use – reassuring given that long periods off the road are often signs of hard-to-fix maladies. After several years of gradual mileage acquisition, it had a spurt last year, managing nearly 14,000 between its two most recent MOTs. 

Closer inspection of the photographed service book shows that the car seems to have had an oil change last April, and that it last visited on Official Porsche Centre for what must have been a pricey major service as recently as 2018. There is also a reassuringly hefty-looking stack of what seem to be reassuringly hefty invoices, the sort you would expect a car like this to have acquired over 130,000 miles. 

Not that our Pill is going to win any awards for originality. Even the most hapless automotive detective won’t struggle to spot some obviously non-standard parts, the most glaring being the carbon fibre driver’s side sill finisher emblazoned with the outright lie ‘turbo’. A closer examination of the interior pics reveals an amount of woven composite trim which seems unlikely to have been specified new in a 1999 Carrera 4. Suggesting that some, most or possibly all of the interior might have actually come from a scrapped 996 Turbo. Or possibly not, as the passenger side carbon finisher does indeed say ‘Carrera’. Porsche trim palaeontologists should feel free to fight it out in the comments to relieve our collective ignorance.

Wonky sill syntax aside, our Pill does look to have scrubbed up impressively well for a car that is most of its way to its 23rd birthday. It also proves that the caramelish (or Kormaesque) brown leather does create a far more colourful cabin than Default Black would; especially as 996 carpets came halfway up the door cards to create a homely feel. The 911’s intergenerational spread means that this first water-cooled 911 is smaller and more wieldy than its successors, making it easier to squeeze down narrow roads and into tight parking spaces than its chunkier successors. The basic Carrera 4 suspension tune was also pretty pliant from memory, certainly when compared to the firmness of more recent 911s. It should still be a very easy car to live with.

Our Pill has covered enough miles for its next owner to have no fear adding to the tally, and all-wheel drive offers reassurance in the sort of slippery conditions that seem to have settled in for the duration. But there is a serious problem with its credentials as a winter car – the fact it is probably a bit too nice. Anyone buying such a car as a saltwater hack is likely to end up with both regrets and the need to purchase something scuzzier to protect it. 


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bmv6197

Original Poster:

100 posts

133 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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This would indeed make winter driving far more enjoyable - but yes, a little clean for that purpose. Although we might be onto something with having a winter daily that is nicer than the cars it is intended to protect… I’m sure this would be slightly more rot resistant than my 90s/00s Japanese “summer” cars as well.

Edited by bmv6197 on Saturday 17th December 01:43

manureboots

44 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I've owned my C4 for 2 years and "although" tiptronic , it's the loveliest thing to drive, 3x Highlands trips and numerous Wales forays in "Bad" weather are testament to it's usability and sure footed demeanour, and the fact that its narrow with sensible ground clearance means that if you happen across a deteriorating single track road then you need not worry, tie in 173 mph and excellent climate control and a sunroof means i'll own it forever !
24 mpg though......

GianiCakes

707 posts

103 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I had a 997.1 C4S and used it in winter here in the Alps. With 4wd and winter tyres it will indeed go up pretty much anything no problem. Going downhill however is a different story. These cars still have a strong rear weight bias and If it is slippery, by which i mean snow and ice, the back end will want to overtake the front. The electronics, and I don't think 996’s have much of that anyway, cannot help when there is virtually no grip. Even on the flat it will spin very quickly if you get out of shape.
Probably not a frequent problem in the UK but just so you know.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,645 posts

173 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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The main issue that anything that can corrode will. Pipes,
lines, braces, brackets and eventually sills. Another than having 4wd, there’s nothing to recommend one for a winter hack.

theoriginalpaul

201 posts

100 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I’ve nothing much to add on its suitability for winter use, other than to say I won’t be using my 996 C4S if there’s a sniff of salt on the roads.

Regarding the interior - this looks a fairly well optioned car, all of the carbon trim (except the turbo sill cover of course) was optioned from new. The service book photo with the spec sticker shows the option codes. It also has the optional alu-look trim on the handbrake, gear shifter and centre console, plus the highly desirable hard-backed sports seats.

Nice car, ad is a bit lazy but maybe he’s just relying on the price to sell it!

sidewinder500

1,865 posts

124 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I can think of worse ways to spend 15k, this seems a steal

Court_S

14,774 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Looks a pretty tidy but for £15k. Bit nice just for a winter hack.

90saddict

19 posts

92 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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manureboots said:
I've owned my C4 for 2 years and "although" tiptronic , it's the loveliest thing to drive, 3x Highlands trips and numerous Wales forays in "Bad" weather are testament to it's usability and sure footed demeanour, and the fact that its narrow with sensible ground clearance means that if you happen across a deteriorating single track road then you need not worry, tie in 173 mph and excellent climate control and a sunroof means i'll own it forever !
24 mpg though......
Couldn't agree more, mine took a wrong turn on a lakes trip in it's stride and unlike the other car I was with never grounded out or flashed warning lights

sixor8

8,616 posts

298 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Seems fair value to me, a later 3.6 C4 with 104k went to an even braver pill swallower at a classic auction last month; above it's guide price and reached just under £15k:

https://www.brightwells.com/timed-sale/5245/lot/60...

C2 models still barely scrape over £12k though, so they aren't that expensive yet. A later 3.6 litre 2001 model here at H+H in Buxton with 100k miles on 30/11/22:

https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/10-2001-porsch...



Edited by sixor8 on Saturday 17th December 09:31

90saddict

19 posts

92 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Water Fairy

6,640 posts

185 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Yes, but has it got heated seats?

Venisonpie

4,900 posts

112 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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That looks lovely, sunroof and interesting interior elevates it from the usual dull inerds. Great all rounder.

S600BSB

8,505 posts

136 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Excellent buy.

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Very nice, especially like the interior colour. So much more
Inviting than goth black.
As a previous 997 owner just be careful on underside rust. All the plumbing, fixings, nuts, bolts and any exposed metal loves to corrode. Get everything treated before taking it out on salty roads.
Also plenty of other known issues to part you with the asking price again but the stack of invoices is a plus and a thorough inspection should see you right.

Mark_Blanchard

1,044 posts

285 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I’d only get one with a Hartech engine rebuild. Then worry free motoring.

cerb4.5lee

44,990 posts

210 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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I don't think that I will ever be able to get past the headlights on the 996, however this one does seem like a very nice example to dip your toe into Porsche ownership I reckon.

I'd like to tick the Porsche 911 box one day, and everyone always says how great they are to own/drive.

J4CKO

46,977 posts

230 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Seems decent value, if its alright.

911 is one car I would insist on paying a specialist to check over before purchase as I get the impression if you by a ropey one it could cost the purchase price to sort it.

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

49 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Never been much of a Porsche fan, but I don't dislike that for the money.

Couldn't be that hard to match the sill kick plates back?

nismo48

7,171 posts

237 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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Nice car for the money...fingers crossed wink

satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Saturday 17th December 2022
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never saw the point in PH adverts letting the user list the horsepower considering it's just wrong 90% of he time