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Sunday 18th December 2022

Jaguar XJ12-C | Spotted

Sir William Lyons' last effort in its most glorious form: a truly stunning XJ12-C...


Sir William Lyons was a visionary and an independent thinker, so merging with the British Motor Company must have been a very hard decision. At the time it probably seemed like a pragmatic one, though. His son and heir, John, had been killed in a road accident in 1955 while en route to Le Mans. Then in 1965, Pressed Steel-Fischer, the company that supplied Jaguar’s bodies, had been bought by BMC. At that point Lyons was 65 years old, and, faced with the prospect of supply issues and a global car industry that was becoming ever more competitive, he did a deal with the devil.

In 1966 Jaguar merged with BMC to create British Motor Holdings. It’s well known that Lyons fought hard in his final years to retain Jaguar’s identity and engineering independence within a corporate giant that, instead of being mighty, was becoming increasingly lumbering and eventually collapsed under its own weight. Against the odds, though, he managed to produce a car that stands alongside the E-Type as one of the greatest Jaguars ever - the Jaguar XJ.

The XJ stood for ‘eXperimental Jaguar’. It wasn’t replacing one model but several, eventually taking over from the ageing Mark II, S-Type, 420 and 420G. Lyons set high targets for his new car, as he always did, but his team of talent, which included Bob Knight, Wally Hassan and Bill Heynes, was more than capable of meeting them. Heynes’ idea for the XJ was to create a four-door sports car. A car that would demolish the opposition in terms of driving dynamics, but also be beautiful and comfortable and luxurious. That’s a lot of facets to encompass in one model, but it’s fair to say that the last car that Lyons was responsible for, did it to perfection.

The new model used lessons learned from previous Jaguars, while at the same time pushing forward with new ideas. The suspension was independent double wishbones all-round, borrowing the E-type’s four-damper set-up at the rear with the driveshafts forming the upper wishbones. Like the E-Type, the XJ also featured rack and pinion steering, which was a first for a Jaguar saloon car, and a huge amount of thought went into isolating noise and vibration. The execution was so successful that even when the XJ was in its final iteration, as the Series III, it could still hold its own against newer competition in terms of cabin refinement.

It was successful in so many more ways, though. Road tests of the XJ were glowing, and not only for refinement but for the way the car handled and performed. The thing that was upsetting buyers the most was not being able to get hold of one. Long waiting lists formed, which, in turn, created a buoyant black market. The XJ listed at around £2,000, yet people were paying £1,000 over the odds for what some were calling the best saloon car in the world.

The six-cylinder XK engine was so good in fact, that it could be argued fitting the 5.3-litre V12 in the XJ was an act of hubris. No doubt there was an element of getting one over on all Jaguar's rivals, from Mercedes to Roll-Royce, in having the only mass-produced V12 saloon car on the market. But the fact that the XJ was conceived from the outset to take the V12 made it a no-brainer; why wouldn’t Jaguar press ahead and produce a car with a twelve-cylinder USP? Especially after Mercedes' engineers reportedly said it was the best production engine in the world. It also produced a saloon car capable of nudging 150mph, although at a cost – barely double-figures MPG.

That wasn’t the end of it, though. The most stylish and sought-after of all the XJs was the XJ-C. It was first shown in 1973 but didn't arrive until 1975, by which point the XJ had been facelifted into the Series II. Apparently the XJ-C was something Lyons was personally devoted to, being a man prone to artistry when it came to automotive manufacture. And the pillarless XJ-C was undeniably beautiful, but with a business case, too: the idea was it would sell well in North America. The problem was its late arrival. There were more pressing issues for Jaguar and, on top of that, issues in sealing those pillarless windows against wind noise delayed it. In the end, it was in production for just a few years, before the XJ-S's debut made it redundant.   

Just under 10,000 XJ coupés were made, of which around 1,000 were V12s. And that's what we have here, and one that appears to be a very fine example indeed. It’s covered less than 50,000 miles, has matching numbers, a carefully curated history file and a not too distant £40,000 restoration. It’s presented in an unusually discrete colour, which may add or take away from its appeal for some, but for me, the word stunning seems to downplay its magnificence. It may be over £40,000, but weighing up condition, cachet and its undisputed classic status, it’s worth every penny.

See the original advert here


Specification | Jaguar XJ12-C

Engine: 5,343cc, V12, naturally aspirated
Transmission: three-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 285 @ 5,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 294lb ft @ 3,500rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: 13.2
Recorded mileage: 49,000
Year registered: 1975
Price new: £11,755
Yours for: £42,500

  

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Nitro666

Original Poster:

23 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Those wheels - the most beautiful alloys ever fitted to a road car IMHO…

InitialDave

15,085 posts

148 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Harry Metcalfe (M4SER)'s videos on his XJ12 coupe are fantastic, go watch them.

and31

4,909 posts

156 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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InitialDave said:
Harry Metcalfe (M4SER)'s videos on his XJ12 coupe are fantastic, go watch them.
Then be terrified how much rust might be hiding!
Three speed slush box doesn’t do it for me-I’d have to have a manual conversion like Harry’s
I absolutely loved my series 3 XJ, and would love another, but the rot certainly puts me off.
Harry’s car is absolutely fabulous, my favourite car in his garage.

Edited by and31 on Sunday 18th December 02:10

and31

4,909 posts

156 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Bugger-double post

Edited by and31 on Sunday 18th December 02:15

alabbasi

3,220 posts

116 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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I have a Silver 75 US spec version. It belonged to a guy that converted it to run on propane. I converted it back but have not driven it much. It has a 700R4 conversion. I'm hung up on interior as the PO installed S3 seats. I need to find the correct interior. I also had a pretty nice looking red 77 XJ12C Euro car that was converted from RHD to LHD. It had a small block chevy conversion with a 700R4. It ran horribly when i got it and the conversion was not great. A new intake and edelbrock carb did a world pf difference.

I drove that car everywhere. When I sold it, the new owner took the train from Mexico City to Dallas, Texas and drove it back 1100 miles.

I'm a purist which is why I had to have the V12, but the small block conversions are fantastic. Super reliable, same or more power and everything on the V8 is super accessible under the bonnet. By contrast, the V12 has not been driven in years.





Edited by alabbasi on Sunday 18th December 06:13

Augustus Windsock

3,788 posts

184 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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THE most beautiful Jaguar ever IMHO, perfect proportions that make an E-type look ill-conceived.
My first ever girlfriend and her sister used to get dropped at school by daddy in his 5.3C.
Silver with a black vinyl roof and red velour interior, it seemed unworldly when my dad ‘only’ had a Ford Consul GT (plus her mummy ran a Pontiac Firebird…)
Never driven one but the opinions on the build quality (poor), susceptibility to iron oxide (poor) and the gearbox (guess what..?) seem pretty reinforced
For me, I’d love one like ‘first girlfriends dads’ but with the work already done and a more modern 4-speed auto or 5-speed manual gearbox

Slowboathome

4,461 posts

73 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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That is glorious.

Pflanzgarten

7,580 posts

54 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Nitro666 said:
Those wheels - the most beautiful alloys ever fitted to a road car IMHO…
Horrendous IMHO. 1970s abominations on a stunning 60s original design.

mersontheperson

732 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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I am so pleased the team have written this article.
Only recently I was trying to work out what the perfect car would be for my circumstance. Criteria were 2 door, enough room for the kids, leather and wood, parts availability, enough performance to enjoy a good drive and to cruise long distance in comfort and confidence, but without extortionate maintenance costs. At a price point that is realistic for someone without a million in the bank.
After going through Bentleys, Bristol’s, Alvis, old Marc’s etc, I settled on the XJ-C, they have creeped up to a price that would put me off a little as a daily driver, but understandable when you consider how many boxes it ticks for those who want a practical classic.

What a lovely example (but would prefer a 6 cylinder)

Chubbyross

4,976 posts

114 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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What a glorious car! For me that’s up there in the pantheon of most desirable cars, sharing a space with the Miura, Countach, Montreal and a few other ‘70s Italians. I would be nervous taking one on unless it had had the kind of work Harry’s lavished on his but what a lovely thing to own and drive.

spikyone

1,912 posts

129 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Given the prices of 1980s Fords, a shade over £40k for a genuine classic - a gorgeous one with a V12 - looks like an absolute steal. What a lovely car cloud9

mersontheperson

732 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Pflanzgarten said:
Nitro666 said:
Those wheels - the most beautiful alloys ever fitted to a road car IMHO…
Horrendous IMHO. 1970s abominations on a stunning 60s original design.
I am with Nitro on this, I think they look great.
It is the 70’s after all, more consistent with the era than wire spoke knock offs 😊

Nigel_O

3,850 posts

248 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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So - two desirable classics on PH - this for a shade over £40k, or a 260Z for £100k?

Imagine both owners being asked what they drive…

‘A Datsun” says the first. “A Jaaaag”, says the second… ;-)

Earthdweller

19,320 posts

155 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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and31 said:
InitialDave said:
Harry Metcalfe (M4SER)'s videos on his XJ12 coupe are fantastic, go watch them.
Then be terrified how much rust might be hiding!
Three speed slush box doesn’t do it for me-I’d have to have a manual conversion like Harry’s
I absolutely loved my series 3 XJ, and would love another, but the rot certainly puts me off.
Harry’s car is absolutely fabulous, my favourite car in his garage.

Edited by and31 on Sunday 18th December 02:10
Gorgeous cars, Harry’s is stunning but when they pulled it apart eek

What did it cost him to restore £80k ?

Likewise his gorgeous little black Fulvia …. Wow what a lesson in what old cars can be hiding

Slowlygettingit

940 posts

70 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Always liked these. Growing up in Yorkshire in the 80s a chap of questionable employment and means used to have a metallic purple one. It seemed to sit very low on some tasty 5 spoke alloys with white wall tyres. It also had a full length sun roof. He used to pull away from the pub, the shops, seemingly everywhere with a lot of revs and a little fish tail.
It was known in our little circle as ‘the villains jag’ with a lot of affection. Doubt it lasted much longer.

FaustF

806 posts

183 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Harry's restoration of his is absolutely essential viewing.

wpa1975

14,669 posts

143 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Truly beautiful car.

Leins

10,435 posts

177 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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Augustus Windsock said:
THE most beautiful Jaguar ever IMHO, perfect proportions that make an E-type look ill-conceived
I am fully in agreement, and never understood the appeal of the E-type myself. I much rather this and the XJ-S

Robertb

3,846 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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and31 said:
Then be terrified how much rust might be hiding!
Three speed slush box doesn’t do it for me-I’d have to have a manual conversion like Harry’s
I absolutely loved my series 3 XJ, and would love another, but the rot certainly puts me off.
Harry’s car is absolutely fabulous, my favourite car in his garage.

Edited by and31 on Sunday 18th December 02:10
This one has had a £40k bare-metal restoration which gives room for optimism. I’d still get it carefully inspected though having been burnt with a ‘restored’ E Type.

ate one too

2,914 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th December 2022
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That is the perfect Jaguar ... anyone giving it less than 5 stars should be banned from PH smile