RE: New electric hydrofoil gets Polestar batteries
RE: New electric hydrofoil gets Polestar batteries
Tuesday 17th January 2023

New electric hydrofoil gets Polestar batteries

Polestar's 69kWh battery pack works well in a car; here's how it goes in an electric boat...


For obvious reasons, you won’t have heard much about electric boats in the recent past. But as the same obstacles to widespread adoption are being overcome in the world of battery electric vehicles, so electric boats are getting there as well - and in a rather more testing environment. Candela is a Swedish company that only makes electric boats, and has been doing so since 2014; now it’s entered a deal with Polestar to use its batteries on the water. 

The Candela C-8 follows the C-7, which in 2020 was the best-selling electric boat in Europe. The new ‘powered by Polestar’ C-8 replaces the original model, using the 69kWh battery pack and DC charging as the single motor Polestar 2 Standard range. It’s reckoned that in the boat that translates to a cruising speed of 22 knots and a range of 57 nautical miles. Which doesn’t sound much from a car perspective, when the 2 will reach 99mph and realistically do 200 miles, but Candela says those figures ‘compare favourably with internal combustion engine speedboats’. The high-speed range is also something like twice the typical figure for an electric speedboat. So Candela is pretty pleased.  

Obviously the boat can’t make use of Polestar’s vehicle motors, and instead uses the Candela C-POD direct drive pod motor to turn energy from the battery into forward motion. The hydrofoils are used at high speed to reduce consumption, and are also excellent for showing off. Whether access to DC fast charging for boats is as tricky as it can be for cars isn’t clear; it feels like there would be less demand for battery-powered boats at the moment, though Candela will launch an electric taxi boat and ferry this year. Polestar is said to be sharing ‘Research and Development capabilities’ for a successful marine application. Presumably, the marina facilities will be better while you wait than a motorway services. 

Gustav Hasselskog, CEO and founder of Candela, said of his company’s latest creation: “With batteries from Polestar, the Candela C-8 becomes the first electric vessel that can travel to destinations that were previously only reachable by combustion engine boats. The Candela C-8 powered by Polestar marks a significant breakthrough for electrification at sea.” Goodness knows it’s needed, too; Candela reckons an average 7.5m petrol boat uses 15 times more fuel than a family car. It’s a big move for Polestar, too, as it aims for sustainable electric mobility beyond just cars. And if that mobility can look as good as the C-8 powered by Polestar, don’t be surprised if people are actually quite keen on it. 


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Wab1974uk

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ChrisCh86

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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I wonder what the efficiency of this boat is once it's up on the hydrofoils?

One of the few cases where going faster is more energy efficient.

blue al

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189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Is rolling resistance less in a car or is it the regeneration that adds to the range.
As I Would assume based on o level physics, far less resistance with slower speeds and smaller cross section of hydrofoil’s (with lift negating weight)

Would give better range for the boat ?

TGCOTF-dewey

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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ChrisCh86 said:
I wonder what the efficiency of this boat is once it's up on the hydrofoils?

One of the few cases where going faster is more energy efficient.
..and sex.

dirtbiker

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Just in case anyone was wondering what the drivetrain looks like - interesting stuff! I guess electricity is great for this as the motors can be tiny.

The foils are retractable too so it doesn't draw that much water, clever design.

matthew-rasen

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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There'll be a superyacht owner out there reading this and about to place an order for one as a tender any second now.

Penguinracer

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236 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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I'd argue that this has been superceded by the HFC Hydrofoil boat which outperforms it on speed & range:

https://www.sail-world.com/news/248933/Americas-Cu...


Silvanus

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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J4CKO

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Silvanus said:
Similar to my first thought, that, this time next year, they will be millionaires.


Kipsrs

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Thank you dirtbiker, I was wondering. thumbup

Kes Arevo

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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blue al said:
Is rolling resistance less in a car or is it the regeneration that adds to the range.
As I Would assume based on o level physics, far less resistance with slower speeds and smaller cross section of hydrofoil’s (with lift negating weight)

Would give better range for the boat ?
A sail.

Blackpuddin

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Calling custard on the lack of a video.

ah80809

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69 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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There are some other benefits which spring to mind, 'Meeester Bond' ...

1. This will make far less noise on the water, something when working inshore/inlet/inland can be a welcome relief and a massive bonus for all sorts of scenarios and it will also have a low Infra Red thermal signature ... nice 'Sea Shadow' paint scheme as well ...

2. Reducing pollution in sensitive environments as it is not chugging out exhaust material and gases through the cooling outlet into the water

3. No Chance of fuel spills or fuel in bilge pump-outs

basically a fast and very low impact/signature boat, but .. no one can hear you arriving at speed so your average boater doesn't notice you until you've crashed into each other ... oops


ah80809

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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McRors

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Silvanus said:
Thanks for making me laugh. Everyone in the pub turned to stare.

V8 FOU

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177 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Yes please! My boat costs £££££ so this would be much cheaper.

Robertb

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268 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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There are loads of electric boats on the Thames. Im surprised there arent more electric leisure boats as they tend generally to be used comparatively little in the course of a day, and the silent propulsion would be a big improvement on stinky diesels for trundling about.

Clearly as the speeds rise, the power consumption increases exponentially...this looks like a good solution.

Nomme de Plum

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Foiling has really taken off, (pun intended) in the windsurfing and kitesurfing world. If you've looked at the current crop of America's cup monohulls and Cats you will see the foiling speed is a multiple of the max displacement speed.

Once foiling the drag reduces dramatically and consequently he power required to keep the boat foiling.

Nomme de Plum

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Tuesday 17th January 2023
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Robertb said:
There are loads of electric boats on the Thames. Im surprised there arent more electric leisure boats as they tend generally to be used comparatively little in the course of a day, and the silent propulsion would be a big improvement on stinky diesels for trundling about.

Clearly as the speeds rise, the power consumption increases exponentially...this looks like a good solution.
Somehow I can't imagine too many foiling craft on the Thames. Carnage would ensue. Remember no driving test required. RYA training highly recommended though.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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ChrisCh86 said:
I wonder what the efficiency of this boat is once it's up on the hydrofoils?

One of the few cases where going faster is more energy efficient.
That's not really true. A car doing 40-50mph does double the mpg of doing 10-20. An ordinary planing hull (any kind of recreational speed or fishing boat) is usually most efficient running no wake, but the worst mpg is just before it gets on plane, once it gets on plane it probably doubles the mpg up to about 30kt. Something like a twin 300hp 30' will do 4 mpg no wake say 2kt, 1mpg at 10kt but then as you get faster say 30kt about 2 mpg, then dropping again to 1mpg at WOT or 50kt+. The hydrofoil is fascinating, the mpg or m/kWh must be really impressive once you lift that huge draggy hull out the water.