RE: Not a BMW M3 Touring | Six of the Best
RE: Not a BMW M3 Touring | Six of the Best
Saturday 11th February 2023

Not a BMW M3 Touring | Six of the Best

Can't get - or don't want - an M3 wagon, but still have the prerequisite six figures to spend? Step this way


Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo, 2020, 7k, £99,000

Though a crazy statement for a 550hp V8 Porsche, it’s been easy to forget about the Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo of late. Wagon fanatics have been getting themselves in a state about a brace of Taycan estates, while those fond of the 4.0-litre engine have been distracted by an even more potent tune in the Cayenne Turbo GT. It can be paired with an electric motor in the Panamera, too, for the 680hp, Turbo S E-Hybrid. There’s plenty to recommend the regular Turbo, however, not least the way it looks. Even after a few years on sale, it remains a really handsome load lugger - as long as that spoiler stays down, of course. The price to pay for shooting brake style is a smaller boot, at 1,356 litres, but a roofbox could mitigate that issue. If it must be a V8 and it can’t be obvious, what a way to spend £100k on an estate.

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Audi RS6 Performance, 2017, 27k, £58,950

You can’t do a fast estate list without an Audi RS - they’re just the rules. And they come no mightier than the RS6. It isn’t the M3’s equal as a driver’s car, but the Audi can counter with more than 600hp from its twin-turbo V8, even more space inside (up to 1,680 litres) and perhaps the best fast estate aesthetic around, especially in last gen C7 form. The appeal of broad-shouldered aggression, all-wheel drive usability and easy-access, auto-marshalled turbo wallop is something BMW has only now given the M3, while Audi has been at it since 2002. This Performance example looks conspicuously good value in a world where the £84k M3 easily optioned to beyond six figures; speaking of which, this RS6 had another £15k thrown at its RRP back in 2017, so it won’t want for anything. Yet here it is, less than 30,000 miles later, with an asking price that starts with ‘5’. Be a long time before an M3 is that money.

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Lister Stealth, 2020, 3k, £99,950

There had to be at least one SUV in this list, because for many they’re now the utility vehicle of choice, but we’re also talking M3 Touring alternatives here - it couldn’t be just anything. So how about the Stealth? It might sound like a car from GTA, but Lister’s take on the F-Pace SVR was very much a real, if still slightly unbelievable, mega SUV. With 675hp, it’s the most powerful car in this list, and that includes the V12 Ferrari and Alpina flagship. The upgrades to the venerable supercharged V8 made a fast car into a madly accelerative one, as fast to 62mph as an M3 Touring despite the extra weight and not stopping until almost 200mph. In an F-Pace! The add-ons for this example seem a tad ironic given the name, but with just 100 made there aren’t a whole lot of Stealths to choose from. It is extremely low mileage, however, and lavishly specced. Who said family cars needed to be sensible?

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Alpina B5 Touring, 2020, 21k, £79,995

While BMW M has flirted with the fast estate idea over the decades, Alpina has committed to it wholesale, with a host of B3, B5 and B10 Tourings to its name. In 2023, it really shows, the Alpina wagons overflowing with star quality that precious few, if any, can really match. If something like an M3 Touring - let alone a Lister Stealth - is too overt, then Alpina has you covered. The niche appeal of the product, plus the fact that devoted buyers tend to keep hold of their lovely cars, means Alpinas don’t come up for sale all that often. But we’ve got lucky this week; a 2020 Alpina B5 Touring, which, courtesy of its age and 21,000 miles, sneaks in at £80k - less than even a standard M3. Both B3 and B5 estates are epic, but here you get a 600hp V8 instead of the straight six, to complement perfectly honed handling and one of smartest looking wagons out there. Dreamy.

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Ferrari FF, 2012, 27k, £99,990

A two-door Ferrari wouldn’t normally be compared with a 3 Series Touring, but then again the M3 is no regular BMW - and the FF was no ordinary Ferrari. Today, both it and the GTC4 Lusso replacement have been superseded by the Purosangue, which has proven so popular Maranello has stopped taking deposits. Ferrari certainly know their customers. In 2011, the FF probably looked as radical as the Purosangue does now, replacing the 612 with Ferrari’s first four-wheel drive system, a dual-clutch gearbox, a huge leap in power and genuine four-seat practicality. Bold then, and seriously cool now it’s out of production. The FF somewhat bucked the trend for four-seat Ferraris and catastrophic depreciation, too; this is an early (2012) car with a reasonable 27,000 miles, yet it still commands £100k. The M3 Touring test car was £103,135. Make the kids squeeze behind the seats - 660hp will be worth it.

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Mercedes-AMG E63 S, 2018, 22k, £59,895

Another copybook BMW M stole from when it came to develop the M3 Touring. And who can blame it? The 2017 AMG E63 S redefined expectations for both AMGs and V8 ‘bahnstormers. Thanks to its 4Matic+ technology, the E63 could offer the best of both worlds: the security of four driven wheels in a 612hp estate, and the rubber-melting mayhem possible with all that power going to just the back. Nobody actually used Drift Mode on their own E-Class, but it was nice to see AMG embracing new technology in its own unique way. The rest of the car was superb, too, far more luxurious yet also sharper to drive than its predecessor. Yes, the ride was firm, and not everybody loved the interior, but the V8 will be longed for when the straight-six comes. This one, with just 22,000 miles, a recent service and a great spec, is more M340i money than M3 - £60,000 still buys an awful lot of used AMG. 

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Author
Discussion

Bencolem

Original Poster:

1,188 posts

269 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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E63S for me from that list please. The Alpina should have been the #1 pick but the Mercedes spec swings it over the Alpina color scheme.

m62tu

147 posts

69 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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That is the most un-Alpina spec I've seen. The blue stripping are unnecessary for this color. I'd have it if that FF was not on the list. Ferrari is the safest buy out of all these.

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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B5 please. Not that colour.

Oh, wait, I've already got one. laugh

Sorry.

Chubbyross

5,003 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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The Mercedes for me. It seems to offer the best value for money out of all the cars there and I reckon I could happily listen to that engine growl all day long to and from the local tip.

GreatScott2016

2,558 posts

118 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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If forced to pick, then Audi hands down.

belleair302

7,015 posts

237 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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AMG for me and then the Alpina, but who chose that dreadful colour? FF is old school now and the Lister, didn’t know it even existed. Not a fan of the Porsche and the costs oh my god, terrifying.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,640 posts

173 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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The ‘not an M3 Touring’ is an X3M. Same engine, drivetrain and most of everything else. Half the price and twice as practical. Although uglier, granted.

Augustus Windsock

3,802 posts

185 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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For some reason the Panamera and Lister leave me cold, and the ‘colour’ of that Alpina…bluurrgghh (tries to emulate a ‘being sick’ sound).
The Benz, Audi and Alpina (colour aside) would be my choice, and although the Ferrari is gorgeous I would be forever worrying about costs (saw one in at my local specialist having the carbon brakes replaced on all 4 corners, the cost made me wince…)

Billy_Whizzzz

2,640 posts

173 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Gorgeous colour on the Alpina. And better looking than a 3 series.

whp1983

1,396 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Great selection and indeed I would have all of those over the M3 touring… in this case the RS6 and loads of change.

Corkys

304 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Fast estate= RS Audi’s.
Merc looks boring.
Ferrari stunning

PomBstard

7,895 posts

272 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Of the selection only an E63 would be big enough for what I need, or I’d go for the FF

However, locally, we can spend half the budget and get our 550bhp, rwd, large (I mean more space than an E63) 5-seat wagon jollies like this…

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2016-hold...



I’ve been eyeing these up for a while trying to think how Man Maths could work…

c_henry

61 posts

100 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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I'd be happy with any on this list, but the Lister would be at the top, I've wanted one since it was released. The Mercedes E63S looks fabulous. The Audi RS6 would be at the bottom.

T1berious

2,675 posts

185 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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The answer was given at the end of the article. M340i Touring.

But in the spirit of the question, financially the safest place would be the FF, space and pace I'd give it to the RS6.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Oh gosh this is a hard one but that Ferrari is stunning and i couldn't walk away from it.
The Alpina would be next but the colour is not to my taste, closely followed by the Merc.
The Porsche comes next even though it's a little ugly in my eyes, the Audi is next a nice car but i always find Audi's a little dull to drive, last is that SUV thing it shouldn't be in this list, but provides entertainment i guess.



S600BSB

8,498 posts

136 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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Lovely list.

Mr Dendrite

2,387 posts

240 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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When BMW have finally produced a compact performance estate why would the alternative be a much bigger performance vehicle? If you wanted an A6/5 series/E class etc you’d buy one. The Ferrari and Porsche are also big things. If you want a 3 series size the alternative are surely Alpina B3, RS4, C class AMG or if you want an suv the hotter Macan?
Or as someone said above a 340? The running/service costs on some of the suggestions in the article are a whole world higher than a M3.
Heh ho smile

Kipsrs

721 posts

79 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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As there are only two of us and two small dogs, Panamera gets my vote without question. thumbup

_ppan

649 posts

99 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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The Ferrari 0wns all. But being able to buy it doesn't mean you could or want to spit up the maintenance...

Alpina
AMG
Porsche
Audi
Lister

Would be my list apart from the Ferrari. Not that I have ever driven any of them biggrin

Edited by _ppan on Saturday 11th February 09:59

_ppan

649 posts

99 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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PomBstard said:
Of the selection only an E63 would be big enough for what I need, or I’d go for the FF

However, locally, we can spend half the budget and get our 550bhp, rwd, large (I mean more space than an E63) 5-seat wagon jollies like this…

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2016-hold...



I’ve been eyeing these up for a while trying to think how Man Maths could work…
Sounds like good fun for relatively little money!