RE: Aston Martin unveils new AMR23 F1 car
RE: Aston Martin unveils new AMR23 F1 car
Monday 13th February 2023

Aston Martin unveils new AMR23 F1 car

110th anniversary continues with launch of this season's Grand Prix racer


Given the enormous amount of money it takes to run a Formula 1 team, the question of value must inevitably come up. Because if an F1 operation isn’t raising brand awareness or driving customers towards the road cars, what’s the point? Ahead of the reveal of this AMR23, Aston Martin actually conducted some research into the effectiveness of its F1 campaigning. Apparently more than 89 per cent of customers globally are interested in F1, which is perhaps higher than expected. More interestingly, its study found that 96 per cent of US-based customers (Aston’s biggest market) thought a presence in the sport made them more likely to consider the brand. Which feels an odd response, given these people already own an Aston Martin, but seems encouraging - and further validates F1’s decision to put more races in the US.

Furthermore, the survey suggested that 92 per cent of respondents felt that the F1 representation is ‘amplifying Aston Martin’s high performance and technological credentials’. That again seems a very high number as we wait for that much needed update of the roadgoing sports cars.

Anyway, that’s an aside - here’s the main event, the Aston Martin AMR23. Described as a ‘significant evolution’ of last year’s car with a host of new design features, the 23 is going to be driven by Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll. Aston’s stated aim for this car, following the AMR22’s gradual evolution into a consistent points challenger, is to be in that position from the get-go. Said to be improved in every critical area by Technical Director Dan Fallows, the most notable changes are the heavily revised front wing, new sidepods and a redesigned engine cover. Like every 2023 contender, the AMR23 has a 15mm higher floor than last year, to reduce the porpoising effect. Because of this year’s big anniversary, the AMR23 also carries a new badge on its nose, called the ‘110 Iconic Years’ crest. Don’t forget the big celebration coming up at Silverstone later in the year for the British Grand Prix.

Speaking of which, perhaps the biggest news from the 2023 F1 car reveal is that it took place at the new Silverstone HQ of the Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula 1 team. Construction on the 37,000 square metre campus started in 2021, and the first phase should be finished in the spring. The wind tunnel, exhibition space and simulator - phases two and three - are set for completion at the end of 2024. Aston are in this for the long haul, it seems; the first all-new F1 building for almost 20 years is set to boast full-time personal trainers for staff, EV charging points, and more than 72,0000 square metres of wild meadow.

As AMF1 Executive Chairman, Lawrence Stroll is the man behind all this. He said of the AMR23: “This year’s move into our new state-of-the-art factory is more than just a serious statement of intent: it will considerably strengthen and empower every single individual in this organisation, helping us to deliver on our ambition to narrow the gap to the front of the grid and, in time, become genuine championship frontrunners.

“In the past year, we have demonstrated the determination and belief needed to move forward and we have constructed a brand-new car to match our vision and ambition.” No doubt even more than 96 per cent of Aston Martin customers would love to see them have a great 2023 season - it all kicks off in Bahrain over the first March weekend.


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fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,665 posts

79 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Of all the reveals I’ve seen this year the designers of the Aston and red bull seem to have had the last 3 months off

And the aero packages reveal feck all to do with the actual cars, it’s an excuse to get the sponsors together in a ex warehouse with some ex love island host with a funky house sound track

Other than that looking forward to the new season ha

whp1983

1,396 posts

169 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I’d imagine bond films have done more for road car sales and brand awareness. Still owning a team gets his son a drive! None the less nice looking paint job and hope it goes well.

Steamer

14,187 posts

243 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Couldn't just use black Philips screws on the nose?..

MotorSpeak

142 posts

63 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Yeah but it’s not a manual with NA engine. And it’s so heavy! They’re just pandering to the Chinese market with this one - Aston Martin design philosophy has gone out the window!

Chubbyross

5,003 posts

115 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Steamer said:
Couldn't just use black Philips screws on the nose?..
That would drive me mad too. I’ve just sourced some black screws for carbon bits on my car. Still, I guess silver is lighter.

Howard1650

345 posts

221 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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The best looking F1 cars where from the mid 80's through to the early 90's.
Today, if you took the paint & logos off the cars, you couldn't tell them apart.

Wab1974uk

1,415 posts

57 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Interest rating = Zero.

Used to watch every F1 race without fail. Bought and read F1 magazine. Proper into it. Haven't watched a race now for about 7 years. It just got boring.

Even the BTCC is getting boring now. They change rules making the cars too similar, which means very little overtaking and just lap after lap of very little action. But still way more exciting than F1.

SuperNads

286 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Wab1974uk said:
Interest rating = Zero.

Used to watch every F1 race without fail. Bought and read F1 magazine. Proper into it. Haven't watched a race now for about 7 years. It just got boring.

Even the BTCC is getting boring now. They change rules making the cars too similar, which means very little overtaking and just lap after lap of very little action. But still way more exciting than F1.
I don't understand this at all, F1 has been the most interesting it's been in ages over the past 3 years or so? Tight at the top, wheel to wheel battles, midfield competitions, multiple world champions on the grid together...

You're looking at old F1 through rose-tinted glasses, there were endless amounts of races without many overtakes and massive gaps in the field's competitiveness.

pquinn

7,167 posts

76 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Looking forward to someone giving a nice clean explanation of how a business generally in such dire financial straits continues not only to blow significant cash on what's mostly a toy for the boss's son, but has that toy spending nice big chunks on a load of new facilities where the budget for those facilities looks like it's going into all sorts of frivolous extras.

Still doesn't quite add up for me, and don't spin me that marketing fluff with its spurious statistics.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

142 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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pquinn said:
Looking forward to someone giving a nice clean explanation of how a business generally in such dire financial straits continues not only to blow significant cash on what's mostly a toy for the boss's son, but has that toy spending nice big chunks on a load of new facilities where the budget for those facilities looks like it's going into all sorts of frivolous extras.

Still doesn't quite add up for me, and don't spin me that marketing fluff with its spurious statistics.
Because they are two seperate entities when you begin drilling down.

That being said AM pay the F1 team to have their name on the car in essence.

kambites

71,572 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Howard1650 said:
Today, if you took the paint & logos off the cars, you couldn't tell them apart.
If you couldn't tell last years' cars apart without their liveries you need to get your eyes tested!

MotorSpeak

142 posts

63 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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SuperNads said:
Wab1974uk said:
Interest rating = Zero.

Used to watch every F1 race without fail. Bought and read F1 magazine. Proper into it. Haven't watched a race now for about 7 years. It just got boring.

Even the BTCC is getting boring now. They change rules making the cars too similar, which means very little overtaking and just lap after lap of very little action. But still way more exciting than F1.
I don't understand this at all, F1 has been the most interesting it's been in ages over the past 3 years or so? Tight at the top, wheel to wheel battles, midfield competitions, multiple world champions on the grid together...

You're looking at old F1 through rose-tinted glasses, there were endless amounts of races without many overtakes and massive gaps in the field's competitiveness.
I agree it’s become boring. The cars simply are not exciting to watch - oversized and overweight. As for the actual racing: the artificial passing with DRS takes away from the skill involved.

kambites

71,572 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Ninja59 said:
Because they are two seperate entities when you begin drilling down.

That being said AM pay the F1 team to have their name on the car in essence.
You could argue the same about Mercedes; they only own a minority stake in the F1 team (although of course they do own the engine supplier).

Wab1974uk

1,415 posts

57 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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SuperNads said:
Wab1974uk said:
Interest rating = Zero.

Used to watch every F1 race without fail. Bought and read F1 magazine. Proper into it. Haven't watched a race now for about 7 years. It just got boring.

Even the BTCC is getting boring now. They change rules making the cars too similar, which means very little overtaking and just lap after lap of very little action. But still way more exciting than F1.
I don't understand this at all, F1 has been the most interesting it's been in ages over the past 3 years or so? Tight at the top, wheel to wheel battles, midfield competitions, multiple world champions on the grid together...

You're looking at old F1 through rose-tinted glasses, there were endless amounts of races without many overtakes and massive gaps in the field's competitiveness.
It may have changed in the last few years, but as I've not watched any, I wouldn't know.

Not rose tinted glasses, and some years it was boring. But I suppose back in the hay-days, Teams were allowed to innovate. Those who did won races, those who didn't, didn't. Now? Anyone who tries to innovate, the other teams protest and it gets banned.

Remember the days of a track full of V8,s V10's, and V12's. Now just the same basic unit.

I think what killed it for me was changing the aero which meant as soon as a car got close to the car in front, it just lost all downforce, and ended up running behind lap after lap, and the only overtaking was during the pitstop.

garypotter

2,073 posts

180 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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SuperNads said:
Wab1974uk said:
Interest rating = Zero.

Used to watch every F1 race without fail. Bought and read F1 magazine. Proper into it. Haven't watched a race now for about 7 years. It just got boring.

Even the BTCC is getting boring now. They change rules making the cars too similar, which means very little overtaking and just lap after lap of very little action. But still way more exciting than F1.
I don't understand this at all, F1 has been the most interesting it's been in ages over the past 3 years or so? Tight at the top, wheel to wheel battles, midfield competitions, multiple world champions on the grid together...

You're looking at old F1 through rose-tinted glasses, there were endless amounts of races without many overtakes and massive gaps in the field's competitiveness.
Has the FIA engraved MAx' name on this year's trophy already?? very exciting to see at the end of the season how the rules can be bent to suit one team

Andy83n

612 posts

92 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Steamer said:
Couldn't just use black Philips screws on the nose?..
easier to locate when in a pitstop?

Steamer

14,187 posts

243 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Andy83n said:
Steamer said:
Couldn't just use black Philips screws on the nose?..
easier to locate when in a pitstop?
That thought did occur.. but then you'd paint them fluro yellow if they were adjustables.

..If you are undoing phillips screws in a pitstop I think its game-over.

I just thought for a press / launch car they might have painted them black or capped them.

Pusikurac

121 posts

70 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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MotorSpeak said:
Yeah but it’s not a manual with NA engine. And it’s so heavy! They’re just pandering to the Chinese market with this one - Aston Martin design philosophy has gone out the window!
Not enough buttons! Hate screens! And that grille! Just awful, I would never buy this! And I owned all of them before!

phatman5000

90 posts

85 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Ahhh, clever by Aston and Red Bull - reveal last year's livery to fool everyone. Can't wait to see what this year's looks like.

suffolk009

7,977 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Chubbyross said:
That would drive me mad too. I’ve just sourced some black screws for carbon bits on my car. Still, I guess silver is lighter.
Titanium, I assumed