RE: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 | Spotted
RE: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 | Spotted
Thursday 16th February 2023

Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 | Spotted

Think American cars can't go round corners? This sort of-record setter proves otherwise...


We’ve all got a penchant for a bit of Americana here on PH. Dodgy plastics and wonky trim are easier overlooked when there’s a whopping V8 under the bonnet, especially when said motor has enough power on tap to light up snooty supercar owners and a set of tyres for good measure. And those that can’t – giant engine, tiny horsepower muscle cars of yesteryear – at least make a flippin' good noise.

‘But what about corners?’ Ah, hoped you wouldn’t bring that up. America famously doesn’t have corners and fitting muscle cars with advanced chassis technology like independent suspension is expensive. But anyone who’s been to the US will know that, in reality, there are some mighty fine roads to experience the wail of a cross-plane crank V8. Most American carmakers have duly responded with a European level of complexity in their performance cars; some have even sent stuff around the Nurburgring to prove they mean business – with the car here actually setting a lap record in the process. Sort of.

Well, not this exact car, but we’ll get onto the details of the record run in a mo. This is the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, one of the nuttiest cars to come out of the US and, as per usual, one that never officially made it across the pond. Cutting straight to the chase, the ZL1 gets the same LT4, 6.2-litre supercharged V8 engine as the Corvette ZO6, developing a colossal 659hp and 650lb ft of torque. All of that gets diverted to the rear wheels through, in this car, a ten-speed automatic gearbox that’ll have you at 62mph from a standstill in just 3.5 seconds. In Fast and Furious speak, that’s good for a quarter mile time of 11.4 seconds and a top speed just shy of 200mph. Yum.

So far, so American. But how does it handle a bend in the road? Presumably, rather well. Chevrolet bolted on its trick Magnetic Ride dampers, which contain a fluid that can be manipulated when exposed to a magnetic field. This helps keep the near 1.8 tonne weight – this is still a muscle car, after all – in check when shown a set of corners. It’s also wider at the front over the SS model it’s based on for better stability and, as a by-product, more menacing looks. Meanwhile, a reworked grille helped improve cooling, while the carbon insert on the bonnet (sorry, hood) helps extract hot air from the engine bay. Apparently.

For the Nurburgring run, Chevrolet deployed the slightly meaner 1LE model. A name that means nothing to us Brits, but in the US those three characters are the sign of a track weapon. Here, it meant deep canards on the front bumper, stickier Goodyear F1 tyres, a slight weight saving and a bigger rear spoiler. With it, Chevrolet clocked a time of seven minutes and 16.4 seconds around the Nordschleife which, the company proudly claimed, was a new record for a Camaro around the 12.9-mile circuit. An impressive time, but it goes to show anything can be a record-setter in the right context.

For actually driving on the road, though, the ZL1 is all you need. And best of all, because it’s a muscle car, it’s freakishly inexpensive. This one’s up for sale at AP Performance for £68,997, which is pretty good value for the amount of performance you’re getting. It’s also received a supercharger pulley upgrade and K&N air intake kit, which has allegedly pushed the LT4 motor up to 700hp. Plenty of poke to obliterate everyone at a Castle Combe track day. Assuming you don’t fall foul of the noise restrictions...


SPECIFICATION | CHEVROLET CAMARO ZL1

Engine: 6,162cc V8, supercharged
Transmission: 10-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 659@6,400rpm (tuned to 700hp+)
Torque (lb ft): 650@3,600rpm (stock)
MPG: 16 (US EPA)
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 2017
Recorded mileage: 13,000
Price new: $64,485
Yours for: £68,997

See the original advert here

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Julian Scott

Original Poster:

4,308 posts

54 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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700bhp. £70k.

<drool>

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

177 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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Fab in every way. Love the colour or color too1

mwyatt82

102 posts

153 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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Don’t fall fowl? Proof read please! Sorry had to say it

steveb8189

516 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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This would have made a great two-car spotted

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14530811


Frimley111R

19,311 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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I remember talking to a Vette owner who had 700bhp. I said 'Where do you use that much power?' He said 'Nowhere.' frown

AndySheff

6,932 posts

237 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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steveb8189 said:
This would have made a great two-car spotted

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14530811

I was contemplating a ZL1, but in the end bought a Challenger Hellcat. Purely because of the more useable backseat.
Now I've sold the Hellcat, perhaps I should try one of these .......

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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Its a shame the interior looks so cheap.

Outside they look, sound and go great!

Fishy Dave

1,125 posts

275 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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Same engine as the previous (C7) Z06. My only negative comment is the relatively small size of the windows, whenever I've sat in a modern Camaro I feel like I'm peeking out of smallish slits, I'm sure I could get used to it though. paperbag

unsprung

6,055 posts

154 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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PH article said:
Dodgy plastics and wonky trim are easier overlooked when there’s a whopping V8 under the bonnet
PH article said:
But anyone who’s been to the US will know that, in reality, there are some mighty fine roads to experience
PH article said:
some have even sent stuff around the Nurburgring to prove they mean business
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hehe This article reads as if the author is tapping tentatively upon the keyboard: the American equivalent of the Kray twins are sat opposite, all scowls and a baseball bat.

When it comes to American cars, it's sometimes like that on PH. Need to preempt the punter who jumps on and posts "crisp packets!" or "Silver Cross pram!". But also need to deliver the facts.


bumskins

2,268 posts

45 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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steveb8189 said:
This would have made a great two-car spotted

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14530811

Got excited when the advert was showing the car as 'manual', should have trusted my own knowledge against some moron of a used car dealer trying to put a classified ad together frown

ChrisCh86

1,132 posts

74 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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That's a great price considering the cost of importing one yourself and the cost of these now in the USA.

In a lovely spec too - I'm in.

JJJ.

5,626 posts

45 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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I don't know about owning or driving it but gosh that makes me smile just looking at it.

SturdyHSV

10,443 posts

197 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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That's a lovely colour, much nicer to me than the completely blacked out ones.

Shame it's an auto though considering there was the option for a manual frown

ManyMotors

1,108 posts

128 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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These Camaros have great performance. The disappointment I have with them is that they are difficult to see out of with windows that seem just too high. Maybe with a helmet on, you don't care.

Cam Tait

88 posts

150 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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mwyatt82 said:
Don’t fall fowl? Proof read please! Sorry had to say it
Thanks for pointing out! Now fixed. It's been a long day...

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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ManyMotors said:
These Camaros have great performance. The disappointment I have with them is that they are difficult to see out of with windows that seem just too high. Maybe with a helmet on, you don't care.
Was going to mention that - but you beat me to it. The visibility is poor. You need those electronic aids!

That said, not driven a ZL1, but driven the V8 normal one. Its surprisingly good. Well developed chassis and the interior isnt as bad as you might think. Ride is good (not the ZL1 though, which is a lot stiffer), but as a daily driver with performance, its a well executed car.

Not sure how it would work in the UK though. Here in the US, lots of people moan about the visibility and width of it - got to think that its going to have a lot of breathe in moments.

mwyatt82

102 posts

153 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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Cam Tait said:
Thanks for pointing out! Now fixed. It's been a long day...
I can relate biggrin

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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Frimley111R said:
I remember talking to a Vette owner who had 700bhp. I said 'Where do you use that much power?' He said 'Nowhere.' frown
Nonsense, Corvettes come with 325 tyres and the cars are made if plastic so there’re easy to get going. My Monaro has a similar supercharged engine with over 800hp. You can use the power, but you live in fear of your license. Think superbike acceleration. Love American cars, thank goodness they still make V8s.

Kipsrs

719 posts

79 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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16 mpg . . laugh

DodgyGeezer

49,046 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th February 2023
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AndySheff said:
steveb8189 said:
This would have made a great two-car spotted

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14530811

I was contemplating a ZL1, but in the end bought a Challenger Hellcat. Purely because of the more useable backseat.
Now I've sold the Hellcat, perhaps I should try one of these .......
Got to be honest prefer a Challenger to the camaro. Yes the camaro is a better sports car but (IMO) the Challenger is a far nicer place to be, albeit noticeably bigger