RE: Ex-Richard Burns Peugeot 309 for sale
RE: Ex-Richard Burns Peugeot 309 for sale
Wednesday 8th March 2023

Ex-Richard Burns Peugeot 309 for sale

Subaru may have delivered his first championship, but his maiden class victory came with this very car


If you’ve ever met one of your childhood heroes, chances are it’s a moment that’s deeply ingrained into your memory – and hopefully for the right reasons. I got the opportunity to meet my idol, Richard Burns, at an event at Castle Combe when I was about eight years old or so. And I was not happy with him one bit.

Not because he’d done anything wrong. Quite the opposite, in fact. He was every bit the nice guy you saw on TV. Rather, he’d signed for Peugeot after winning the World Rally Championship with Subaru in 2001 and, as a fan of team Prodrive, that didn’t go down too well with eight-year-old me. So when I was approached by a TV presenter, who shoved a mic in my face and asked who’d win the 2002 World Rally Championship, I said Petter Solberg. That’s how mad I was at him. Thankfully, I never said that to his face. I was far too star-struck to care and happily took home a signed poster as a souvenir. Perhaps if I’d known that Burns actually started his professional rally career with Peugeot, I might have been a tad more understanding.

After scrapping around in UK rally events with a Talbot Sunbeam in the late 1980s, Burns was gifted a Peugeot 205 GTI by friend and wealthy rally enthusiast David Williams, allowing him to enter the Peugeot Challenge for 1990. He’d win the series outright in 1991, where he was gifted a 309 GTI Group A machine in time for that year’s WRC finale at the RAC Rally. This is that car.

Though he’d made his WRC debut a year prior at the same event, where he finished 3rd in class, Burns was coming off the back of a dominant campaign in the 1991 Peugeot Challenge and was right on the pace from the get-go. The ad claims that Burns logged several ‘top 30’ times on the opening stages of the rally, which sounds far more impressive when you consider that the event had over 150 entrants. 70 of them would fall foul of the rally’s notoriously tricky conditions or suffer mechanical failures, yet Burns kept his nose clean and gradually worked his way up the order.

He’d move to the head of his class by the end of the seventh stage, a lead that’d remain through the remaining 30 stages. After four gruelling days of battling the cold, muddy stages of the RAC Rally, Burns and co-driver Robert Reid would claim a commanding class win and finish 16th overall – beating all-wheel drive Ford Sierra RS Cosworths and Lancia Delta Integrales in the process.

The rest, they say, is history. Burns would go on to drive for Subaru and Mitsubishi throughout the 1990s, returning to the Prodrive squad at the end of the decade. He’d win the championship with them in 2001, before moving back to Peugeot for 2002 and 2003. Sadly, we’d never get to find out whether Burns had another championship in him, but he left behind one hell of a legacy – with cars like this 309 GTI serving as a reminder of a golden era in rallying.

The car is presented today in its original 1991 RAC Rally livery, at the request of Richard Burns himself when he bought the car back from a private collector in 1998. It remained with the Burns family following his death in 2005, where it was used in charity events to promote the Richard Burns Foundation, which helps support families with affected by cancer and neurological illness. There’s a short but sweet thread about the car on PH, including some of its public appearances and pictures of the car alongside Burns’ other rally machines.

As of 2021, the car has been in private ownership again and has been looked after by rally specialists Autosportif Engineering. The ad says it was ‘overhauled’ in time for that year’s Rally Day at Castle Combe, marking the 20th anniversary of Burns’ championship win.

With the champion’s name plastered all over the owner’s documents and, obviously, on the side of the car itself, this 309 GTI is the ultimate souvenir for Richard Burns fans or those looking to get stuck into historic rallying. It’s likely out of my price range (the ad lists it as POA), so I’ll have to stick with my signed poster instead – and the memory of unfairly slamming him on TV. Sorry, Richard.


See the original advert here

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Timothy-fx7bu

Original Poster:

11 posts

98 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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What an awesome car with a fantastic back story. Definitely enjoyed the article with a tear in my eye. I remember standing in a damp, cold forest in Wales in the late 90’s, watching the likes of Burns and McRae tearing it up. Amazing memories and a great era of motorsport.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,190 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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cool car, definitely my type of machine. Interesting that in Grp A form there isn't multiple thottle bodies on the engine. I assume the custom inlet/ ecu didn't need it, Plus I can imagine that open TB's might suck up a bit of water.

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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F***ing POA's make my p!ss boil!

If it is for sale, state a price, isnt that how most things in life go?

Or is it so the seller can pick a price based on what mood he is in and what he thinks the buyer will pay....

PistonBroker

2,722 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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British Beef said:
F***ing POA's make my p!ss boil!

If it is for sale, state a price, isnt that how most things in life go?

Or is it so the seller can pick a price based on what mood he is in and what he thinks the buyer will pay....
Agreed.

I think so.

In practice, POAs are likely only to cause me an issue when I become a Lotto winner. Perhaps I'll keep our Honda Civic on the fleet for the odd occasion I need to visit a POA merchant.

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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What a fantastic thing that is!!

BFleming

3,918 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Fantastic is right. Neither the article nor the ad delves in to the technical spec, or when the externals were converted to the facelift.
Love it though.



Edit: Maybe it was after this:



An older rally car is a form of Trigger's Broom at the end of the day.

Edited by BFleming on Wednesday 8th March 14:39

Water Fairy

6,634 posts

185 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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No in-depth tech spec in the ad and POA really stretches my ring as this is a car I want to know everything about! grumpy

Mumsn3t

189 posts

54 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Also no info on the fact its a 16v.

garypotter

2,073 posts

180 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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I forgot what agreat car the 309GTi was in road and race version

Met Mr Burns at Silverstone GP great bloke very chatty and a great racer

Pereldh

821 posts

142 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Thats a Peugeot 309GTI16 no less.

In Sweden cats became law in 1988 so we had to wait until 1992 for the cathalyst Peugeot 309GTI16 with 148hp just like the 405Mi16.
I remember my dads dealership they sold one or two. Peugeot Sweden brought in 20 cars, all LeMans blue with blue carpet & half-leather interiors. Oh if I'll found one of those... smile

Thing is, they're so rare people don't even look for them so you might even get one cheap.. (once you find one!) biggrin






Edited by Pereldh on Wednesday 8th March 16:10

Turbobanana

8,489 posts

231 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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British Beef said:
F***ing POA's make my p!ss boil!

If it is for sale, state a price, isnt that how most things in life go?

Or is it so the seller can pick a price based on what mood he is in and what he thinks the buyer will pay....
How much would you pay for it?

thiscocks

3,401 posts

225 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Pereldh said:
Thats a Peugeot 309GTI16 no less.

In Sweden cats became law in 1988 so we had to wait until 1992 for the cathalyst Peugeot 309GTI16 with 148hp just like the 405Mi16.
I remember my dads dealership they sold one or two. Peugeot Sweden brought in 20 cars in, all LeMans blue with blue carpet & half-leather interiors. Oh if I'll found one of those... smile

Thing is, they're so rare people don't even look for them so you might even get one cheap.. (once you find one!) biggrin







Edited by Pereldh on Wednesday 8th March 15:20
Atleast you got them! Not offered in the UK

Afaik the Mi16 was used in most group A 309s

wpa1975

14,759 posts

144 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Pereldh said:
Thats a Peugeot 309GTI16 no less.

In Sweden cats became law in 1988 so we had to wait until 1992 for the cathalyst Peugeot 309GTI16 with 148hp just like the 405Mi16.
I remember my dads dealership they sold one or two. Peugeot Sweden brought in 20 cars in, all LeMans blue with blue carpet & half-leather interiors. Oh if I'll found one of those... smile

Thing is, they're so rare people don't even look for them so you might even get one cheap.. (once you find one!) biggrin





Edited by Pereldh on Wednesday 8th March 15:20
I never knew they made the 309 GTI with the MI16 lump from the factory

asci.white

559 posts

103 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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British Beef said:
F***ing POA's make my p!ss boil!

If it is for sale, state a price, isnt that how most things in life go?

Or is it so the seller can pick a price based on what mood he is in and what he thinks the buyer will pay....
Why would you let something like a simple phone call to the seller bother you so much?

If you're in the market for such a car, you're already going to have a ball park in mind.


Pereldh

821 posts

142 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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wpa1975 said:
I never knew they made the 309 GTI with the MI16 lump from the factory
Yup they did. 160hp non-cat & 148hp cat.
Exterior-wise you'd spot they lacked the cooking GTI red decor stripes, quite understated!





Edited by Pereldh on Wednesday 8th March 16:09

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Turbobanana said:
British Beef said:
F***ing POA's make my p!ss boil!

If it is for sale, state a price, isnt that how most things in life go?

Or is it so the seller can pick a price based on what mood he is in and what he thinks the buyer will pay....
How much would you pay for it?
That is irrelevant, I am 100% not the target market for this car, as I have no great affinity towards the driver, the car, the brand, rally cars or racing heritage of this one (but I appreciate plenty will).

Even when these things go to auction there is an estimate to work with.

I would estimate the value of this to be in the £60 k - £80k ballpark...... ( I wouldnt pay that, but a very wealthy collector of such cars might place 200% more value on securing this unique car).


Muzzer79

13,191 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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My oldest media is a review of the 1988 British Rally Championship, on VHS.

This car competed in events that very year, in the hands of Kalle Grundel - I recognise the number plate, I watched it that many times as a 10 year old hehe

GreatScott2016

2,555 posts

118 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Not easy to place a value on but nice for a collector. Doesn't have the kudos of an Impreza or Evo, but that said, it shouldn't attract an exorbitant asking price either, noting POA!

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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wpa1975 said:
I never knew they made the 309 GTI with the MI16 lump from the factory
Only knew about this from rallying where the French built these 6’speed Mi16
Powered cars for homologation, the DNA of the 306 Rallye and Gti-6
Comes from these ultra rare 309 16v. Such a shame never sold in the U.K. would have been a hot hatch king for a moment or two.

ImFeelingSaucy

501 posts

54 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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BFleming said:
Fantastic is right. Neither the article nor the ad delves in to the technical spec, or when the externals were converted to the facelift.
Love it though.



Edit: Maybe it was after this:



An older rally car is a form of Trigger's Broom at the end of the day.

Edited by BFleming on Wednesday 8th March 14:39
Great pics thumbup