RE: One-of-50 Jaguar XKR-S for sale
RE: One-of-50 Jaguar XKR-S for sale
Friday 10th March 2023

One-of-50 Jaguar XKR-S for sale

Remember when Jaguar was dead serious about making desirable sports cars?


When cars sell in minuscule numbers, is usually because of two reasons. The ones we care about are those that had everything but the kitchen sink thrown at them by the manufacturer and produced in small quantities in the name of exclusivity. Then there are the cars that are only hard to find because they didn’t sell particularly well due to lack of demand, the company going bust or, more typically, they were rubbish.

Of course, there are exceptions. McLaren had to drop F1 production by a third due to a lack of interest - mostly thanks to the sharp recession endured in the early 1990s. The Lexus LFA, which also came hot off the heels of a financial crisis, was hardly a runaway hit either. But this Jaguar XKR-S is a bit more of a retrospective headscratcher. Like the aforementioned supercars, the X150 XKR-S was built in tiny numbers and, as far as we can tell, Jaguar managed to shift every example with little issue. The fact they're now selling for Ford Fiesta ST money is the curious thing.

To start with, there’s a lot more going on than meets the eye. Developed by Special Vehicle Operations (or SVO), the crack team that went on to create the bonkers Project 7 and 8, the XKR-S featured a raft of chassis upgrades to create the most focused version of Jaguar’s grand tourer to date. The suspension was totally reworked with stiffer springs and dampers, while the anti-roll bars were toughened up to keep the 1,665kg kerb weight in check. The ride height was lowered, too, and tweaks to the steering added a little weight to the XKR’s ultra-light feel.

Judging by the reviews at the time, it’s the brakes where Jaguar made the biggest strides. SVO collaborated with brake masters Alcon to develop a new system for the XKR-S, comprising of 400mm discs up front with six-piston callipers, with 350mm discs and four-pot callipers at the rear. One reviewer hailed the upgrade as “a transformation” over the original single-piston callipers, providing a “much more reassuring feel” under foot and, clearly, better braking performance. Another journalist said the XKR-S was so good they’d “be astonished if it didn’t give birth to a future crop of driver-focussed Jags” – which Jaguar duly did.

But unlike the follow-up XKR-S, with its 5.0-litre supercharged V8 and uncapped production numbers, the limited-run 2008 model made do with the same engine as the standard XKR. That means 4.2 litres of supercharged eight-cylinder thunder, with 420hp and 413lb ft of torque, which is managed by a very Jaguar six-speed torque converter automatic gearbox. SVO did, however, up the electronic speed limiter to 174mph. The aero changes supposedly serve a purpose as well, but we’ve not got any numbers to go off here. At least it looks the business, especially with the unique 20-inch forged alloy wheels.

With all of that in mind, it’s even more perplexing that the 2008 XKR-S doesn’t command the premium most limited-run performance specials do – something we all too rarely find ourselves saying at PH. Jaguar made 200 of these, but only 50 of them came to the UK in right-hand drive form, making them rarer than the proverbial hen’s dentures. This one’s up for £23,064 with only 71,000 miles on the clock. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth...


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Kawasicki

Original Poster:

14,404 posts

265 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Nice car. Pointy!

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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You'd have to really want the XKR-S bits not to walk straight past this to the 5 years younger, significantly more powerful, eLSD equipped, facelifted 5.0 XKR you could get for this money. With a few grand in change with that mileage too. Nice wheels though!

Jaguar R-S cars have form at having little or no premium over the regular ones, I had a 1992 XJR-S and other than highly optimistic sellers who run their ads for literally years they sell for the same or less than the later factory 6 litre cars despite being slightly more powerful and handling much better thanks to their TWR tweaked chassis. Watched mine go again at auction last year and struggle to crack £12k, which makes a joke of the £20k+ ads you see.

At least the XJR-S had shedloads more power than the standard car at the time, I wonder if the supercharged 4.2 really was at the limit of what it could do (and meet Ford OEM durability standards, not tuning company standards) at 420bhp.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 10th March 16:57

MyV10BarksAndBites

1,705 posts

79 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Surely the answer is XKR….

fantheman80

2,656 posts

79 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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stickleback123 said:
You'd have to really want the XKR-S bits not to walk straight past this to the 5 years younger, significantly more powerful, eLSD equipped, facelifted 5.0 XKR you could get for this money. With a few grand in change with that mileage too. Nice wheels though!
Yeah my eyes were drawn to the ads on the right I have to say. The wheels are nice, a bbs/gti 30th Anniversary vibe

Edit although at least this one has the better (if not ruinously expensive) brakes, the newer model having poor sliding caliper jobs which I've always thought let the top jags down a bit (at least in looks)


Edited by fantheman80 on Friday 10th March 17:12


Edited by fantheman80 on Friday 10th March 17:12

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Nice looking car that, wouldn't mind a go in one !

nismo48

7,153 posts

237 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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LBW2020 said:
Nice looking car that, wouldn't mind a go in one !
+1 lovely

martin12345

1,012 posts

119 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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stickleback123 said:
At least the XJR-S had shedloads more power than the standard car at the time, I wonder if the supercharged 4.2 really was at the limit of what it could do (and meet Ford OEM durability standards, not tuning company standards) at 420bhp.

Edited by stickleback123 on Friday 10th March 16:57
The 4.2l was on the limit of what the M112 Eaton supercharger could do. With a bigger supercharger, next gen TVS, it could have managed 450 to 480 BHP quite happily. However, JLR decided rather than just fit the next generation Eaton TVS1900 to the 4.2l, they'd go the whole hog and a very big upgrade with increased displacement to 5.0l, direct injection, twin VVT and the new gen supercharger (plus a bunch of other small good things). By doing that they created an engine that had 600 BHP potential for the future which given the BHP "war" that the germans were busy with (Audi, Merc, BMW) was undoubtably the right thing to do (although in 2008 in the midst of an economic crash just before it launched it didnt seem so smart)

Marc H

270 posts

184 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Harry Metcalfe should buy this car, would b good for a video.

Robertb

3,890 posts

268 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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I really fancy one of these. The stance of them be the standard R is great, I’ve seen a few. I prefer the look of these early ones to the later ones, strangely.

I had an 07 XKR Coupe which I loved, and I imagine this is even better.

Jester86

682 posts

139 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I was looking at these the other day, as I ran into one twice in 2 days locally. Really like them and the earlier XKR-S just seems to look bang on to me.

Slowlygettingit

946 posts

71 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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[quote=stickleback123]You'd have to really want the XKR-S bits not to walk straight past this to the 5 years younger, significantly more powerful, eLSD equipped, facelifted 5.0 XKR you could get for this money. With a few grand in change with that mileage too. Nice wheels though!



Absolutely - doubly so about those lovely wheels.

chunder

786 posts

276 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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stickleback123 said:
Jaguar R-S cars have form at having little or no premium over the regular ones,
Nonsense - try buying an XFR-S for less than double the equivalent non S.

Diderot

9,678 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Robertb said:
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I had an 07 XKR Coupe which I loved, and I imagine this is even better.
Snap I had an 07 XKR here too. Lovely cars.

seefarr

1,879 posts

216 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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My boss had one of these for a while and loved it. A couple of months after buying it, he took it for its service at the same Jag dealer and they told him it needed new front calipers....at £4500. He threw his toys out saying they should have picked that up in their pre sale inspection and they did pay to be fair to them but something to be mindful of...

reddiesel

3,065 posts

77 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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It’s a wonderful thing but alas at crazy money which will limit its marketplace to only Enthusiasts . I call this period Jaguars Indian Summer where under Ford ownership anything seemed possible . At 72,000 miles and £22k I would be worried about my exit strategy , add a couple of years of ownership and 10,000 miles and what are you left with . Buy it as a keeper however and it makes a lot of sense .

RK22

68 posts

70 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I bought a sub 10k miles facelift 2011 XKR convertible last year. It’s great.

I looked at facelift XKR-S but wanted a convertible and felt the S is trying to make a “sports car” out of a car always designed as a GT.

Post 2010 facelift cars with the 5.0 V8 supercharged engine, with around 510 bhp are a hoot. Mine has optional dynamic exhaust and speed pack. So limiter raised to 174 mph.

Throaty V8 and instant throttle response. Easy sub 5 seconds 0-60mph.

Clean examples of these are holding their value well and are likely to increase over time. They really do represent excellent value. Mine costs about £360 a year on a classic insurance policy.

Not a daily driver though at 14 mpg and 20 mpg on a long motorway run with a very light right foot…..

These are overlooked for now but will rise in value over the next 10 years. Fun, reliable and depreciation free…..




capttrousers

31 posts

148 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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The slightly later 5 ltr engine was better..

JuiceTerry

145 posts

122 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Nice looking cars, but if I was considering this type of car I would be drawn to a Maserati Granturismo.

fatboy b

9,665 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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capttrousers said:
The slightly later 5 ltr engine was better..
No it isn’t. The 4.2 was actually the sweet spot in the Jag V8s.

unpc

2,999 posts

243 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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fatboy b said:
capttrousers said:
The slightly later 5 ltr engine was better..
No it isn’t. The 4.2 was actually the sweet spot in the Jag V8s.
Why do you say that? Genuine question. I had an 03 XKR and loved it but I have no experience of the 5.0 but always fancied one.