RE: Infiniti FX50S | The Brave Pill
RE: Infiniti FX50S | The Brave Pill
Saturday 11th March 2023

Infiniti FX50S | The Brave Pill

Infinite opportunity or infinite peril?


The question of whether any Lexus can be considered courageous enough to be featured as a Brave Pill has already been asked twice. And seemingly answered, with a loud “no” ringing from the comment section after both a IS-F and a SC430 were featured, the pair generally reckoned to be no more perilous than a warm, bubbly bath.

This week brings something similar, but different. Yes, it’s another upmarket spin-off from a Japanese company - in this case, Nissan - but with the adventure-adding proviso that the brand in question no longer exists in Blighty. This 2010 FX50S is our first Infiniti, and although the level of risk is boosted slightly by both a six-figure mileage and plenty of complex dynamic kit, the more obvious hazard for future owners is the fact that Infiniti gave up on western Europe in 2020. There are still Authorized Repair centres, but it’s not hard to imagine that parts availability for aged, tech-filled examples won’t hold up for long.

Infiniti’s surrender was not, in truth, a huge surprise. The brand tried hard to make us fall in love with its combination of curvacious design and what was pitched as a VVIP dealership experience, but its products always struggled to live up to the marketing hype, especially the ones that were directly comparable to Lexus equivalents. Even Infiniti quietly slipped beneath the waves after a decade of slow sales it seems likely that most British car buyers had no idea the brand even existed, its quest for recognition often stymied by the fact the corporate badge looked like an upside-down Mazda logo. 

Yet there were plenty of positives and, behind its surprised-looking front end, the FX was always one of Infiniti’s more convincing models. Despite its SUV-ish design it was much closer to being a high-riding estate than anything like a proper offroader, sitting on the same FM platform that underpinned the Nissan 350Z and 370Z. So although the FX had all-wheel drive as standard, this was rear-biased in its delivery and designed to boost on-road performance rather than to help it wade through the wilderness. Most British versions were fitted with a grumbly and profoundly unexciting 3.0-litre V6 diesel, but the range-topper got a 390hp naturally aspirated V8.

Our Pill is the only V8 currently in the Classifieds, and if you’re going to buy an FX then this is definitely the most appealing one. The big engine’s relaxed muscularity and high-rev zinginess working well with what was always an impressively athletic chassis. It was genuinely fun to punt down a twisting road.

The FX50’s downside was a distinct lack of waft, especially when on the largest 21-inch wheels. The ride was lumpy over everything but the smoothest surfaces, and corrugations could make it feel like a destroyer tackling a heavy sea. Refinement was also a constant disappointment, as in the other Japanese-designed Infinitis. It didn’t feel like it had been designed to cope with European cruising speeds; it was - as one road tester put it - a car that made 70mph feel like 100mph.

But the FX50’s biggest problem was its price. Recognising that factory orders would take months, Infiniti opted for what was basically kitchen sink standard specification. Apart from colour, the only substantive choice was the Sports Pack which gave bigger 21-inch wheels, active dampers and what was still the relatively unusual feature at the time of rear steering. But it also came with what was then a very chunky price tag: a £53,600 base price in 2009 making it slightly more expensive than a BMW X5 4.8i, although the Infiniti got much more standard kit. 

Lines didn’t exactly form around Infiniti’s few dealerships, with fewer than 300 V8s being sold in five years. These days it doesn’t actually carry much of a premium over the diesel, which is both much more common - and much more common. A £12,500 asking price for this one seems reasonable for something so potent and rare. 

So what could go wrong? Being a middle-aged Japanese car your flabber will likely be entirely ungasted to learn that the FX can suffer from underbody rust, especially on suspension components, although this generation is apparently less susceptible than the earlier version which wasn’t sold here. The sheer quantity of technology on board also means there are plenty of potential expensive failure points, even if it is relatively unlikely that any individual bit is going to check out. Worst of all, our Pill is wearing a 4D rear registration plate with non-standard spacing, a crime against taste which many PHers regard as unforgiveable.

The MOT history is reassuringly viridescent. There was a failure for cracked and unevenly worn front tyres in 2014 - at which point the car had only covered 37,900 miles. And then nothing of serious note until March 2022 with another flunk for a bald tyre, a non-functioning position lamp, inoperative windscreen washer and - you’ve guessed it - registration plates that “do not confirm to the specified requirements.” 

In what seems to have been a victory of optimism over logic the car then failed another test three months later with exactly the same list of faults apart from the now sorted tyre. A clean test was recorded later the same month, one that suggests either a more liberal test centre was found, or the 4D plates were substituted for a legal set. (Which may well still be in the boot.)

Looking back on Infiniti’s modest list of product highlights you’d have to say that the FX50S actually came somewhere close to the top of the list given its combination of grace and pace. Of course, there was also the Vettel Edition, named after the then Formula 1 world champion and featuring a modest power increase and a ludicrous six-figure price tag. That one really was a special FX. This one is only a little less talented, but also much cheaper. Maybe we should think of it as the FX Mark Webber.


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Sevenman

Original Poster:

764 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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A friend had one in Oman in 2009, that did have a decent turn of pace and a lot of kit.

But less tempting over here. But maybe a few £k can be knocked off because of the plate.


ucb

1,117 posts

242 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I quite fancied the Vettel edition back in the day but they were way out of reach pricewise

andy43

13,249 posts

284 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I quite like these. But Peter Andre had one. Probably not a plus point.

Dombilano

1,457 posts

85 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I've felt braver ringing the local takeaway than this infiniti. Garbled communication and pot luck order aside, this seems very, very good value. Cracked tyres and a chavverplate are not enough to dilute that.
Rather this than a diesel Juke

ducnick

2,280 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Always liked the shape of these. With the v8 and the hard suspension is this a cut price alternate to the new Ferrari suv maybe? Similar tall estate car proportions, full of hi tech kit, massive wheels, terrible economy, fast, scary, very little practical luggage space etc….

deja.vu

456 posts

46 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Dombilano said:
I've felt braver ringing the local takeaway than this infiniti. Garbled communication and pot luck order aside, this seems very, very good value. Cracked tyres and a chavverplate are not enough to dilute that.
Rather this than a diesel Juke
It’s actually quite expensive for an FX50 (mine has less miles, tyres are less than a year old, just had new plugs and coil packets which is eye wateringly expensive and I’d be delighted to get close to £10k for it
I say that as a long term owner of one.
Infiniti aren’t in the U.K. anymore but a few of the Nissan dealers are now also Infiniti service centres.
I’ve had mine looked after by an independent for years
But they are brilliant cars

mersontheperson

732 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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First thing I look at when buying a used car is has the last owner maintained it properly, the MoT record shows that in this case, absolutely not.

So it’s a NO from me

Chubbyross

5,003 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I usually hate SUVs but I’ve always had a soft spot for these. I kind of like the long bulbous snout.

The ad is hilarious. What the hell does “pre reserved” even mean?

Slowlygettingit

946 posts

71 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Haven’t read the article as I really dislike the look of these. Imho you’d be brave / blind to even consider buying one….
hurl

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,769 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Spot on for a brave pill.

Always felt this was the one car Infinity got right from a styling point of view. All the others were a bit "odd" looking, especially the saloons. Indeed, the Levante could have easily borrowed this design.

Amusing last sentence.

dapprman

2,786 posts

297 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I see a surprising number of Infiniti in and around St Albans (where I work a couple of days per week), more so considering the nearest dealer I seem to remember was in Reading, an hour away outside of rush hour.

Think the problem Inifiniti had over here was they went all out as a direct rival to the big German brands, where as Lexus more seemed to take the direction of their cars being a (possible) loss leader to promote the Toyota group, providing aspiration cars for those were potentially going to spend years with Corollas and Avensis. Net result Inifniti struggled to make the sales and closed down where Lexus always have next to no new stock, just ordering as customers place deposits and a reliance on customer misuse and unluckiness to provide enough for the service teams to deal with. Wouldn't suprise me if the Lexus brand appears under the Toyota marketing department at a high level.

jayemm89

4,470 posts

160 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I'm now becoming increasingly suspect that PH are spending too much time watching my channel

MotorSpeak

142 posts

63 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Like when a neighbour you scarcely knew moves away: won’t be missed.

romac

608 posts

176 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Never forgave Infiniti for basically causing my local ex-Saab dealer to go bust! furious

They (the dealer) had a Red Bull F1 car in the showroom to launch the Vettel-branded FX50S. We went to have a look at the F1 car and take some pics.

I was not impressed with the FX50 though. Ridiculously high boot floor and small boot. Didn't get to drive it though - might have half-forgiven it!

Dombilano

1,457 posts

85 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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jayemm89 said:
I'm now becoming increasingly suspect that PH are spending too much time watching my channel
And a mighty fine channel it is

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

138 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Iirc some countries got a variant of one of Infiniti’s saloons with a variant of the VR38 engine you’d get in a GTR. Now THAT would be a pill.

Lester H

4,419 posts

135 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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I’m sure this would be a reasonable buy at a little less, there will be commonality with Nissan parts. However I can’t but recall Clarkson’s remarks when these were first introduced in the U.K: ‘ Have you ever woken up in the morning and thought “what I really need in my life is a posh Datsun?”’

survivalist

6,124 posts

220 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Never been impressed by any of the premium Japanese brands, to me they feel exactly like the cars they are based on - reliable but unremarkable.

Exception was the Lexus LS400, that felt special at the time.

Slowboathome

4,461 posts

74 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Reading the article it doesn't sound like a brave pill, more a pretty rubbish car.

borat52

585 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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jayemm89 said:
I'm now becoming increasingly suspect that PH are spending too much time watching my channel
“Hello Pistonheads”