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Zed 44

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1,290 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Impossible to find accurate information. Road tax is going up 10.1% from April 1, I get it. But, there seems to be some confusion about whether it applies to all cars or just 2017 models onwards. Well, let's say I'm confused. Help me out.confused
Thanks in anticipation.

samoht

7,218 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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All the rates go up with inflation, just as they have done every year.

The new rates are all here for the various year bands https://heycar.co.uk/guides/car-tax-road-tax

The only difference is that inflation has been a lot higher than previously, so the increases are bigger in nominal terms.

Zed 44

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1,290 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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So the answer is not really. It depends on the age of the car. In my case, it's a 2016 model and according to the chart you've posted the link on, it's the same as last year for 2023 /2024. Thanks for the clarification.

BIRMA

4,270 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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It does seem to be all over the place. I had a pleasant surprise when I took my 2017 5 litre V8 Lexus RCF off SORN this month. Instead of the usual £600 it has come down to £165 for the year. I guess I won't be putting it on SORN from here onwards.

samoht

7,218 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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For 2001-2017 cars the current rates are here https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-f...
You can see that Band C will go up from £30 to £35, the top Band M from £630 to £695, and those in between similarly. These are ~10% rises rounded to the nearest £5.
The exceptions are Band A (110% of £0 is still £0) and B (110% of £20 is £22, which is still £20 to the nearest fiver).


For cars registered from 1st April 2017 onwards you pay a (now £355) supplement in years 2-6, sounds like the lucky Lexus owner above has paid his last supplement, so back to standard flat rate (now £165) from now on going into year 7. If you want to own a 5.0L V8 (and why wouldn't you?) then buying a 2017 model is the most road-tax-efficient option biggrin
(Flat rate and supplement also rise 10% from 1st April)

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
Be the same for me. aholes.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
This is how they are going to get these old, high Co2 cars off the road, just increase the road tax by 10% a year.

Won't be long before it is £1K a year.

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Joey Deacon said:
cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
This is how they are going to get these old, high Co2 cars off the road, just increase the road tax by 10% a year.

Won't be long before it is £1K a year.
I hate the VED based on CO2. If it's about taxing because of emissions, then why should VED matter? A car that emits more uses more fuel, therefore you pay more tax on fuel.....

Bungleaio

6,587 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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BIRMA said:
It does seem to be all over the place. I had a pleasant surprise when I took my 2017 5 litre V8 Lexus RCF off SORN this month. Instead of the usual £600 it has come down to £165 for the year. I guess I won't be putting it on SORN from here onwards.
Thats probably because the over £40k surcharge has dropped off now the car is over 5 years old.

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Joey Deacon said:
cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
This is how they are going to get these old, high Co2 cars off the road, just increase the road tax by 10% a year.

Won't be long before it is £1K a year.
Definitely.

I only do about 1500 miles a year in it, and it will be even less this year because I've put it on a SORN for 6 months for the first time. I feel a bit hard done to if I'm honest.

VED prices like this will hammer the depreciation of cars like this as well I'd imagine. Plus the VED cost will be more than the value of the car I reckon in a few years too.


E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
Joey Deacon said:
cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
This is how they are going to get these old, high Co2 cars off the road, just increase the road tax by 10% a year.

Won't be long before it is £1K a year.
Definitely.

I only do about 1500 miles a year in it, and it will be even less this year because I've put it on a SORN for 6 months for the first time. I feel a bit hard done to if I'm honest.

VED prices like this will hammer the depreciation of cars like this as well I'd imagine. Plus the VED cost will be more than the value of the car I reckon in a few years too.
Just after I buy the M3 hehe That said, the LS460 was the same VED cost.

crankedup5

10,917 posts

64 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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E90_M3Ross said:
cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
Be the same for me. aholes.
Form a club soon, my VED a will double this year to £695. Ouch !

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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E90_M3Ross said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Joey Deacon said:
cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
This is how they are going to get these old, high Co2 cars off the road, just increase the road tax by 10% a year.

Won't be long before it is £1K a year.
Definitely.

I only do about 1500 miles a year in it, and it will be even less this year because I've put it on a SORN for 6 months for the first time. I feel a bit hard done to if I'm honest.

VED prices like this will hammer the depreciation of cars like this as well I'd imagine. Plus the VED cost will be more than the value of the car I reckon in a few years too.
Just after I buy the M3 hehe That said, the LS460 was the same VED cost.
It is sods law bud.

At least you have 8 cylinders and 4 litres though Ross. coolthumbup

I only get 6 cylinders and 3.7 litres in comparison! banghead

cerb4.5lee

44,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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crankedup5 said:
E90_M3Ross said:
cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
Be the same for me. aholes.
Form a club soon, my VED a will double this year to £695. Ouch !
It is getting crazy isn't it?!

As said already...this will eventually get almost all of the old gas guzzlers off the road for sure sadly.

Zed 44

Original Poster:

1,290 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
£695 a year for my 2011 370Z then! yikes
Yeah it's crazy. A 2017 GTR would only cost you £165 a year plus 10%.

samoht

7,218 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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HMRC said:
Increasing VED rates by RPI (10%) from April 2023 to April 2024 will ensure that VED receipts are maintained in real terms and that motorists make a fair contribution to the public finances
So you just need to tell your boss, "Increasing my salary by RPI from April 2023 will ensure that my income is maintained in real terms and that you are paying me a fair renumeration for my work".

As long as your salary goes up by inflation, and road tax goes up by inflation, the tax is the same % of your salary. No problem...


What's that you say, you work in the public sector?

Department of Health and Social Care said:
For 2023 to 2024, the government is offering staff a 5% consolidated increase in pay.
...
The government firmly believes this is a fair and reasonable deal for staff, as well as being a fair deal for taxpayers and will ensure we can continue to reduce inflation.
Sorry, it seems that 'fair' has a different meaning when the government is paying you, to when you're paying them...



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-and-...

BIRMA

4,270 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Bungleaio said:
BIRMA said:
It does seem to be all over the place. I had a pleasant surprise when I took my 2017 5 litre V8 Lexus RCF off SORN this month. Instead of the usual £600 it has come down to £165 for the year. I guess I won't be putting it on SORN from here onwards.
Thats probably because the over £40k surcharge has dropped off now the car is over 5 years old.
Correct, it does seem weird although I'm certainly not complaning, fellow RCF owners with cars before 2017 pay £600 plus.

Saleen836

12,497 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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BIRMA said:
Bungleaio said:
BIRMA said:
It does seem to be all over the place. I had a pleasant surprise when I took my 2017 5 litre V8 Lexus RCF off SORN this month. Instead of the usual £600 it has come down to £165 for the year. I guess I won't be putting it on SORN from here onwards.
Thats probably because the over £40k surcharge has dropped off now the car is over 5 years old.
Correct, it does seem weird although I'm certainly not complaning, fellow RCF owners with cars before 2017 pay £600 plus.
Amazing isn't it, 2 identical cars one registered March 31 the other April 1 the latter paying around £180 the other close to £700

sixor8

8,520 posts

297 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Band C is being increased for the first time ever, from £30 to £35. In fact, it was cut from £35 to £30 in the mid 2000s I think so we're back to that.

I've been mentioning the massive VED prices for post 2006 Bands L ad M cars for years, only to be told it doesn't really matter. Really? It does when they get old, unsaleable unless they're special. Even my TVR (pre 2001) is now £325 per year. frown