car insurance premiums

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lornemalvo

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2,197 posts

70 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Can anyone please explain why car insurance premiums have shot up so much? My renewal is up 24%, which seems like daylight robbery as my circumstances have not changed at all. I planned to upgrade my 2017 2.0 tfsi Audi a4 Avant but quotes for some pretty modest SUVs are hundreds more. I'm in my sixties with full NCB. no accidents etc etc. I can afford to change my car but begrudge paying hundreds more for insurance. I have been on all the comparison sites but all the insurance companies seem to be rinsing us

the-norseman

12,587 posts

173 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Renewals are always more! shop around.

But I would imagine an increase in costs (staff, buildings etc), increase in claims and thefts is driving it up.

Kuwahara

884 posts

20 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Pretty sure it’s because of the war in Ukraine,or covid lockdowns ,or Brexit ,or global financial crisis ,911 all or any of the above….coffee

loskie

5,322 posts

122 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Don't auto renew. When the renewal notice comes phone them up and challenge the increase normally they will knock it off. At least that's what I've dome every year with Direct Line.
It's annoying yes but they are a business trying to maximise income so if you are too lazy to challenge it then you have no one but yourself to blame.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,675 posts

152 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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lornemalvo said:
My renewal is up 24%, which seems like daylight robbery as my circumstances have not changed at all.
Circumstances have changed. Your insurance company's costs to heat and power their offices have gone thru the roof. Their staff have been hit by cost of living hikes so have received much higher pay increases. Garages have the same issues so their increased costs have been passed onto customers in the form of higher repair costs, which have hit insurers.

Why would you think insurance companies are immune to all the cost increases we're all facing?

Pica-Pica

13,959 posts

86 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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My mama told me - “you better shop around”

(Yes, I know; ‘Miracles’ can happen).

lornemalvo

Original Poster:

2,197 posts

70 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
lornemalvo said:
My renewal is up 24%, which seems like daylight robbery as my circumstances have not changed at all.
Circumstances have changed. Your insurance company's costs to heat and power their offices have gone thru the roof. Their staff have been hit by cost of living hikes so have received much higher pay increases. Garages have the same issues so their increased costs have been passed onto customers in the form of higher repair costs, which have hit insurers.

Why would you think insurance companies are immune to all the cost increases we're all facing?
I don't think they're immune, but almost 2.5 x inflation seems a bit much

lornemalvo

Original Poster:

2,197 posts

70 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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loskie said:
Don't auto renew. When the renewal notice comes phone them up and challenge the increase normally they will knock it off. At least that's what I've dome every year with Direct Line.
It's annoying yes but they are a business trying to maximise income so if you are too lazy to challenge it then you have no one but yourself to blame.
I never auto renew, and usually do this. Te fact that other quotes are even higher makes me doubt I'll get a result this time

lornemalvo

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2,197 posts

70 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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the-norseman said:
Renewals are always more! shop around.

But I would imagine an increase in costs (staff, buildings etc), increase in claims and thefts is driving it up.
In my experience, renewals are generally not more nowadays. Insurance companies can no longer give better deals to new customers than existing customers

Puddenchucker

4,158 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Just had a renewal though. It's gone up by 35% despite no changes or claims etc.
I haven't started shopping around yet.

jeremyh1

1,375 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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I have been insuring vehicles since 1985 and I have had the same complaint every year .
Back in the day I used to kick off at my broker "Bill" in Tiverton but now I just get an email and a box to fill out on the internet!

I was hoping that some young wizz kid on here would come up with an idea but nothing yet

Devon and Cornwall police keep advertising uninsured vehicles on twitter maybe I should recalculate the financial outcome of this monetary exercise

Alex Z

1,184 posts

78 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Insurance for two cars, a house and a bike (all separate policies) was pretty much unchanged and on one was a fair bit cheaper.
The renewal quotes were as good as anything I found on comparison sites.

QuattroDave

1,485 posts

130 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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lornemalvo said:
the-norseman said:
Renewals are always more! shop around.

But I would imagine an increase in costs (staff, buildings etc), increase in claims and thefts is driving it up.
In my experience, renewals are generally not more nowadays. Insurance companies can no longer give better deals to new customers than existing customers
I got my renewal from captains boss for my i3 and my premium had gone from £430 to £710. No change other than going from 0 years ncb to 1 (my ncb is used on another car).

Called them up to cancel auto renewal, which could not be done on the customer portal and was told they could reduce the renewal to £520. I thought they weren't allowed to do stuff like that anymore! I actually found deals closer to the £400 mark.

James6112

4,533 posts

30 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Last year my home insurance was going up (Admiral)
Adding a car knocked £50 off each car.
So i added both cars (agreed pro-rata price from when they kicked in later in the year)
Renewed in Feb this year. Had gone up by £25 but still good, House & 2 cars around £650.
This type of option can work
The drawback, if they hike it up will have to switch all 3!

Philvrs

553 posts

99 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Both of mine were up an identical 39% on a multicar policy, so nothing to do with the vehicle types.
Clicked and phoned around to eventually get it for just 10% more than last year, but with slightly worse cover and separate policies.

sonnenschein3000

710 posts

92 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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I'm having an absolute nightmare with mine.

What I suspect is the main problem: I live in Coventry.

I'm 33 years old, and for about the last 10 years I've been paying in the region of £1000-£1600 ish depending on the car, including protected NCB and legal cover. 2.0 litre sort of things (e.g. I had an evoque at one point) closer to £1000, and stuff like Alpina and BMW M5 closer to £1500-1600. Expensive, I know, but I could as it was still just within my budget.

I have a 2021 CLS 400d right now (2.9 litre diesel, 330hp) and long story short, cheapest is coming out at £2700. 20k miles per annum, no driving offences, 1x windscreen repair last year, no criminal convictions, etc. etc. 8 years no claims bonus. I've tried enquiring the insurance price of similar cars (e.g. BMW 840d gran coupe) and the price is coming out around the same.
Tracker made no difference to the price, and locking it up in the garage made no difference either.

I've tried two brokers already, and I'm just waiting for another broker to get back to me tomorrow hopefully [Edit 12/07/23: final broker came back with prices much higher than £2700]... but the insurance situation is pretty bad in my circumstances.

The only other solution is to move house but that a whole other level of magnitude of cost...

(Just to see what it says, I tried putting in a 2015 Vauxhall Corsa (95 horsepower) into a price comparison site and is coming out at £800 annually for my circumstances...)

Edited by sonnenschein3000 on Wednesday 12th July 16:50

UTH

9,029 posts

180 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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My renewal offer was up from £1,550 to just over £2k

Got it down to £1,850 or so with some time on the phone, but still fairly annoyed. I swear insurance used to go down each year.

FarmerJim

419 posts

161 months

Tuesday 11th July 2023
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LV suggested that the renewal for my E350 estate was going up from £296 to £430 (grey hair and live in leafy Cotswolds). The renewal email was accompanied by some patronising drivel on why premiums had increased so much (Ukraine, inflation, bosses wife wants new villa in the Caribbean, etc...). A couple of minutes with the meerkats found several quotes with reputable insurers for not much more than I paid last year. Even the meerkat LV quote was some way below their renewal price, for exactly like-for-like cover.

I have renewed with Tesco Bank for £300.

Speed Badger

2,751 posts

119 months

Friday 20th October 2023
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My insurance renewal has gone up from £218 to £797, literally HOW?!!!!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,675 posts

152 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Speed Badger said:
My insurance renewal has gone up from £218 to £797, literally HOW?!!!!
Errr....I guess they wrote or emailed you saying it was £218 last year, and £797 this year. HTH.