RE: Audi RS6 Avant (C7) | The Brave Pill
RE: Audi RS6 Avant (C7) | The Brave Pill
Saturday 15th April 2023

Audi RS6 Avant (C7) | The Brave Pill

Who fancies kicking a bit of RS?


Draw up a list of the things that Audi does best and estate cars, ludicrous performance and design are likely to be close to the top of it. Which is why the C7 generation RS6 Avant may well be looked back on in years to come as peak Audi, the greatest combination of all these virtues. 

Because while the current C8 generation RS6 still delivers on both space and pace - producing up to 630hp in Performance guise - it lacks the muscular grace that made its predecessor so compelling. Personal call, obviously - but the C8’s all-aperture front end and television shop interior leave me a little cold, while pictures of this C7 still trigger warm memories. And also some fond, fuzzy flashbacks.  

Most of these are down to the fact I was lucky enough to run a C7 RS6 for six months, having been the custodian of evo magazine's long-termer back in 2013 and 2014. That was a far jazzier prospect than this week’s sensible grey Pill, being finished in a shade of ‘look at me’ red. It was also, by some margin, the grandest and most expensive car I had been the custodian of, with its £75,500 base price having been lifted by a comprehensive options workout to a vertigo inducting £101,020.

Many of my memories are indeed related to the hugeness of the performance. The RS6 was fast everywhere, the twin-turbo V8 feeling like it was straining at the leash when being trickled at low speeds, and never more than a flexed toe away from delivering big ones. Strapping timing gear on proved the RS6 could blast from rest to 100mph in just over eight seconds, a figure that made it the fastest accelerating estate car in the world at the time. But it was also a supremely talented cruiser, being much more pliant and comfortable than its V10 predecessor had been. I never took it as far as an Autobahn, but it would have been awesome.

Not that life with an RS6 was devoid of concerns. Fuel consumption was predictably high and the range wasn’t great. Even under gentle use, it struggled to get more than 350 miles from its 75-litre tank, and using the performance dropped that substantially. Brim-to-brim calculations after a stint on track showed it had been averaging 3.5mpg flat-out. It was a big car, too - and in the real world, the dimensional spread of its widened arches made it awkward in tight spaces. I never went through a width restrictor without wincing and the XL optional 21-inch wheels were also huge, shiny kerb magnets, without any bead protection to spare the metal in the event of a small misjudgement. 

But my biggest fear was one common to the many RS owners: that it would get nicked. No sooner had sales of the C7 RS6 began than stories started circulating about them being stolen, often violently, with scrotes smashing their way into houses and threatening owners for keys. Having a bright red RS6 parked on the drive does make you feel like a target, and even if nothing ever happened to mine I was happy to swap it for a much less conspicuous Golf GTI. 

While the two previous generations of RS6 had suffered from savage depreciation early on, the C7 held value impressively well. Our Pill is a 2014 car and the cheapest currently on sale in the Classifieds at £29,950, with the lowness of that figure compared to similar-aged cars seemingly down to the fact it has covered 109,000 miles.

By RS6 standards, this one is pretty undercover. Besides the grey exterior - with a similarly dress-down hue inside - it is riding on the standard 20-inch alloys. It also has the regular front bumper rather than the showier ‘quattro’ logo version which was an extra-cost option, with the pictures showing it also has conventional cruise control rather than the radar system Audi was still charging £2,200 more for back then. It also has the regular BOSE branded speaker system rather than the hugely expensive six-grand Bang & Olufsen upgrade.

Our Pill’s MOT history is as green as the history of cabbage, with only a single advisory for a chip in the windscreen back in 2018 sparing it from a completely clean record. The rate of mileage acquisition has jumped around a fair bit, with 23,000 miles wound on between March 2019 and September 2020 on what would have been a COVID extension. There were just 9,000 added the following year, but then it bounced back to 19,000 between 2021 and 2022. The dealer claims it has just been serviced, too, which can safely be put into the bonus column. 

Risks? Plenty enough to make things interesting, our Pill being at both the age and mileage where maintenance costs tend to increase: it’s not as if this generation of RS6 is ever going to be short of things to go wrong. Running costs will always be chunky, especially given the RS6’s enthusiasm for devouring brakes and tyres under hard use; the original spec RS-only wavy edge brake discs seem to be over £1,000 for a pair, although generics are undoubtedly cheaper. So definitely not a car to run on a restricted budget.

Despite that, this could be a time for a canny buyer to move in. C7 RS6 prices are getting very close to those of the C6, and despite the appeal of the earlier car’s charismatic V10, this is definitely a much better all-rounder. We might even look back on it in years to come as the pinnacle RS wagon, and not just for bank robbers looking for the ultimate getaway vehicle.


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Turini

Original Poster:

467 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Handsome for being understated. Any owners want to weigh in on running one..? Fast estate always useful in the family

GreatScott2016

2,332 posts

113 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I do like these, quite discreet compared to newer versions too smile

Wdc_22

45 posts

87 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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What a handsome thing.

Stoned

114 posts

154 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Very tasteful, lovely lines, purposeful without going over the top - everything the following model is not.

Mouse Rat

2,050 posts

117 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Very handsome and I love the interior is this phase of A6. The RS6 is one of the fastest and capable cars I've ever driven.
But saying that I wouldn't consider one. The ride, kids feeling sick, stuff being slung everywhere, threat of it being nicked would irritate me.
The 3.0tdi makes more sense in an A6 estate.

Slowlygettingit

891 posts

66 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I ran a diesel black edition a6 Avant for a year in 2015/6.
Really was a great car - huge. Never wanted for more space. Would like the rs6 but the thirst would put me off.
Not having to go to main dealers for servicing would all be a bonus too - the 3 local to me that I used were all utterly ste with minimal competence and a touch of arrogance.
The sat nav and infotainment was pretty poor compared to bmw and merc of the same era so I bet they feel a bit zx spectrum these days.

BillyWhizz888

964 posts

178 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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We had a 2003 rs6. Was the 4.2 tt

Was very quick and smooth.

21mpg if wanted to drive everywhere at 60mph but don't buy a car like that to do that.

On manual says never do a launch start with the autobox as engine can easily blow it up.

We traded it in when the mk3 focus rs was due for delivery.

After trading it in We found it needed 2 shocks and a suspension balance pipe. Which would have cost us just over 2k for the parts. Gearbox was starting to seep. And mileage was getting near to the dreaded age where timing chain would have needed done

anonymous-user

79 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Lovely looking cars in my eyes and a darn site better than the Porsche and ugly Aston SUV's

Dr G

15,856 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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This is not a good example.

The service history is lacking, and it's clear whoever has been running it has done the absolute minimum to keep a row of Audi entries going. It's missed numerous fluid changes, filters, and spark plugs (although it has at least had fairly regular engine oil changes). It's not had an inspection since 2020, and the service that's "just" been done was 7 months ago and only a cheap, basic oil change.

The tiny pictures let you glean nothing about the condition of the brakes so it's fairly safe to assume you're in for a 3k bill there on top of whatever else is wrong with it.

Spending more to buy a better car would work out considerably cheaper.

sasha320

598 posts

273 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Turini said:
Handsome for being understated. Any owners want to weigh in on running one..? Fast estate always useful in the family
Owned a 2015 C7.5 for 5.5 years and had the foresight to keep extending the Audi warranty.

The car is thirsty, however 30mpg motorway runs can be achieved if you maintain 50 to 70 mph. The reason I know this is because of a few commuter runs from London to East Midlands when the M1 mostly had a 50mph speed limit!

Servicing is OK price-wise, the car has an annual service which feels like it could be every two years tbh. If 911s are every 2 years…

Discs and pads all round are £2500 and could be needed as often as every 30k miles or so.

Maintenance / repair costs are high albeit the car is quite reliable. That said, the high cost is as much due to high price RS parts as it is the mercenary dealer approach to labour time i.e., if you don’t challenge them they’ll charge you the book labour for each individual job even if the area being worked on is the same. I guess this issue isn’t RS6 specific.

Maintenance / repairs I have incurred

1. Air condition / pressure sensor replace £1,500 (bumper off was the main cost)

2. Replace DRC hoses, main cylinders and shocks all round £4,000 plus an Audi A6 hire car for 1 month

3. Fuel flap lock replacement

4. Active cruise control software reinstall (after the oil strainer recall).

As I said, I had the foresight to maintain the warranty for 3 years at a cost of c£3k.

Versus repair bills to date of c£5,750.

My advice would be to buy Audi Approved Used and maintain the extended warranty. Obviously not everyone will beat the insurance policy and by the end of my ownership I may well be closer to breaking even.

That said I always bought the Audi warranty for the general peace of mind and the experience of being able to roll a 5 year old car that I owned outright into a Main Dealer and enjoy the zero excess all component approach to any repairs. In this regard it has felt like owning a new car.

Wab1974uk

1,282 posts

52 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Looks far better than the current car, which like most Audi's these day, just tries too hard and appeals to the YouTubers.

Less is more, and Audi used to be the masters of it, both with exterior looks, and the best interiors.

Now, it's over aggressive styling, and cheap nasty looking and feeling interiors.

Always been a Audi fan, and owned / driven quite a few. Not one single Audi I'd have now. Maybe the interior of the TT is still what I would consider nice. But that's it.

BikeSausage

678 posts

93 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I had one of these as the predecessor to my B5 Touring. I agree with the view that this was peak RS6 and definitely peak A6 Avant. The newer model seems to be all angles and spoilers.

I loved it but it was a bloody expensive proposition. I had it from new until 4yo and that last year cost me a few £££.

Genuinely comfortable for long distances and plenty feisty when you wanted it to be.

Dombilano

1,381 posts

80 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Struggling to see the market for this, 30k is alot to drop on a 9 year old, expensive to maintain car.

Under 25s won't even bother
Mid 30s will go for a newer, warrantied S4
Mid 40s up will have more sense

Leaves Youtubers and some low/mid level drug dealers as the remaining audience.


anonymous-user

79 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Did 45k in mine and loved it. However it had 6 DRC "valves" and a complete new set of dampers in that time. All under warranty. I went on to buy a B9 RS4 with DRC next and, and guess what? The same problems. Should have learned from my first mistake.
I would not buy one with DRC but choose standard air suspension instead.

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

145 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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The 'pinnacle' IMO was the previous V8 model. More characterful than the V10, largely under the radar from thieves, much cheaper and very niche. Far better real life mpg, and only a bit slower. A revelation back in the day.

cerb4.5lee

42,307 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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I like these a lot and I'd imagine them to be a great all round family performance car. I'd imagine that they aren't cheap to run though.

Dr G

15,856 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Dombilano said:
Mid 40s up will have more sense
This is the right money to spend on a C7 RS6, and they're really popular at this money. ~45 will buy a well maintained facelift car with a few nice options, they work upwards from here by age, mileage, and specification.

JJJ.

4,879 posts

40 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Dombilano said:
Struggling to see the market for this, 30k is alot to drop on a 9 year old, expensive to maintain car.

Under 25s won't even bother
Mid 30s will go for a newer, warrantied S4
Mid 40s up will have more sense

Leaves Youtubers and some low/mid level drug dealers as the remaining audience.
Yep, I'm somewhat in agreement with you.

May be somebody that's feeling lucky will buy it and move it on after a year, just tick it off their list of cars.

Still, the depreciation will hurt and maintenance might too. Personally, I wouldn't relish the prospect of selling it even after another year and the mileage hitting c.120k.

No, definitely not for me. I think if I wanted a large estate it be an E-Class of some description, not comparable on dynamics or performance but I could sleep far better.





Water Fairy

6,472 posts

180 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Dr G said:
Dombilano said:
Mid 40s up will have more sense
This is the right money to spend on a C7 RS6, and they're really popular at this money. ~45 will buy a well maintained facelift car with a few nice options, they work upwards from here by age, mileage, and specification.
I believe he is talking about age not price

anonymous-user

79 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Great car but a bit leggy.