RE: Q cars for under £15k | Six of the Best
RE: Q cars for under £15k | Six of the Best
Saturday 22nd April 2023

Q cars for under £15k | Six of the Best

Fast without the fluff, for flying under the radar. All for Citroen C3 money


Vauxhall Insignia 2.8 V6 Elite, 2012, 59k, £8,490

That's right - a first-generation Vauxhall Insignia. We're talking deep cuts here, people. An Elite-spec car in goldy-silver blancmange, which of course means it looks like a cab. The only clue to anyone of any performance potential is a tiny ‘V6 X’ badge in the boot - perfect. Of course, most 2.8-litre, turbo V6 Insignias were VXR models, but they were about as Q-like as a police helmet in a peace parade; the civilian models still made 260hp, enough for 155mph. Sluggish acceleration can surely be blamed on an old-school auto. In gear, this old Vauxhall hatch retains the ability to surprise a fair few, which is exactly what we’re here for. This one-owner car has less than 60k on it, too, so it’s fit for a whole lot more motorway mile munching yet. 

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BMW 335i Luxury, 2012, 61k, £13,999

The Germans are good at this - or they certainly used to be. The internet has evidently ruined their preference for understatedness, but look just a few years back and you’ll find plenty from BMW, Audi and Mercedes that combined a superb powertrain with discreet styling. And even that’s probably overdoing it - innocuous might be more appropriate. Most 3 Series like this, with the most powerful 3.0-litre engine, would have been M Sport specced, with just a bit more visual attitude to hint at the 306hp potential of a 335i. Not here - this is a 335i Luxury, with more chrome, more wood, and seemingly no pretensions at all of going fast. Only the pipes and the badge show it’s anything more than a 320d - Q car job jobbed. Especially with the ability to reach 62mph in little more than five seconds, thanks to a great BMW straight six.

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VW Passat R36, 2009, 75k, £13,495

All of the VW R models for 20 years now have been subtle - Volkswagen has never really been one for OTT performance - but the R36 really was unassuming. Add to that incredible rarity and the uber Passat could very easily pass plenty by, even with 300hp. Of course, it wasn’t the perfect sports saloon, hailing from a time before VW really got a grip on making 4WD seem like fun, but what an engine. The fabulous VR6, here in 3.6-litre form and paired exclusively with a DSG, was almost worth the price of admission alone. So much so the values are climbing, probably hoisted up by Golf R32 appreciation. That the Passat is another handsome, rare performance VW must do its appeal no harm at all. This 75k miler is £13,495, so there’s enough left in the budget for at least the fuel home…

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Mercedes-Benz S600L, 2003, 71k, £14,990

In the good old days of big boy Benzes, there would be the loud and lairy V8 AMG flagship as well as a more subdued - yet equally powerful - V12 model that went without the sporting attitude. When new, they were for those buyers who had to have the ultimate of the ultimate. There were SLs, CLs and, of course, S-Classes that offered both variants - this S600 is exactly the kind of 12-cylinder Q car we’re talking about. Bar some jazzy wheels and the teeny-tiny V12 badges, this could be any 20-year-old S-Class; there are still so many of these W220s around that it would get a second look from most. Yet it boasts more than 500hp and almost 600lb ft from a turbo V12; if the stats are to be believed, this is the fastest of the group. With just two former keepers and 70,000 miles, this should have plenty of ‘bahnstorming life left to run.

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Jaguar XJR, 2000, 60k, £14,750

If not quite full old man spec, the X308 era XJ was certainly a traditional Jaguar saloon. Big bonnet, big boot, lots of leather and swathes of wood. Even with XJRs prior to this model, the 1998 car raised the bar - nobody ever expected a Jaguar this seemingly old school to be so fast. That performance came courtesy of a 4.0-litre supercharged V8; the aspiration was familiar for fast XJs, but only with a straight six. Upping the cylinder count to eight meant more power and torque, for effortless and emphatic speed in the best Jaguar tradition. The supercharged V8 was such a perfect fit for the XJR that the engine layout was retained, with ever-increasing potency, for 20 years after this car, until the end of the line. As the first of the breed, the X308 XJR is now a desirable classic Jag - this 60k-mile minter is just £250 under budget.

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Lexus LS600h, 2008, 117k, £10,900

Hybridised V8s are big business in the supersaloon market nowadays: the next BMW M5 will use a version of the XM’s plug-in V8, and AMG is already there with the E-Performance GT. Lexus realised what a smart solution it was 15 years ago. Alright, so an LS is quite some way from a true sports saloon, but adding a hybrid element means keeping the emotional and practical appeal of a 5.0-lite V8, while noticeably upping the efficiency. The new breed is definitely attempting something similar. Here’s a car with almost 450hp and more torque than the XJR yet an official rating of 35mpg and 219g/km - on the numbers, nothing gets close to the Lexus. Both GS F and IS F prove what a charmer that V8 can be, too. For fast without fuss - and for just £10k - there can’t be much better.

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Discussion

DodgyGeezer

Original Poster:

48,995 posts

220 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Q-cars are supposed to look dull - mission accomplished here

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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The 335i or the Passat for me though owning a Tiguan the clunky infotainment system is a major VW flaw.
The S600 would sure be a Brave Pill.

Hub

7,145 posts

228 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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I was looking for a Q50 V6 hybrid but there is also this - Pretty dull and under the radar!

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14769281

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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That Insgnia is horrible.

It’d be the the 335i or Passat for me, probably the latter because I don’t particularly like the BMW in that trim.

andy43

13,233 posts

284 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Those Lexus do serious mileage - there are cars on autotrader that have done well over 250k.
Should be sensible car tax rates too because hybrid. Not a sports saloon but luxury wise it’d be lovely.
Which terminal sir?

danmarr14

183 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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What are the BMW Luxury 3 Series like? Any or much different to a boggo 320d?

AC43

13,633 posts

238 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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I love the fact that MB Germany will sell you an E63 Business Edition. Debadged and chromed up. Cool AF.

Of course you cant buy it here because MB UK have decided that all you can buy, with any engine, is the Darth Vadar Bling Edition.

Sad days.

Dombilano

1,453 posts

85 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Not sure a Passat R36 is really a Q car. The 335i however, is one 320i badge away from hot hatch baiting heaven

Iamnotkloot

1,910 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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The Jag because it’s handsome, the Lexus for reliable and anonymous travel.

Nicks90

884 posts

84 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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I'll take the Lexus thanks!
Rapid for such a big car, beautiful place to sit and probably the only one on that list that won't cost as much again in bork-age over 3 years...

jwwbowe

705 posts

202 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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AC43 said:
I love the fact that MB Germany will sell you an E63 Business Edition. Debadged and chromed up. Cool AF.

Of course you cant buy it here because MB UK have decided that all you can buy, with any engine, is the Darth Vadar Bling Edition.

Sad days.
MB UK will only make something available to buy they will sell. It’s unfortunate reflection of UK society rather than MB UK being stingy.

wpa1975

14,732 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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BMW for me, de-badged it could be a 320

Macron

13,399 posts

196 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Is that really what those X308's fetch?

Cpt Flashhard

131 posts

164 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Can confirm that the Lexus is vast, quiet, utterly anonymous and with effortless shove. Mine is a 460 so only 4.6 V8 and no hybrid. Full NASCAR vibes above 3500rpm though. Imported this from Japan where demand is practically zero, for 5700 on my drive. Only done 37k miles too so it should be good for a few years!

EDIT sorry about sideways pic rolleyes

Edited by Cpt Flashhard on Saturday 22 April 10:46

pb8g09

3,248 posts

99 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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danmarr14 said:
What are the BMW Luxury 3 Series like? Any or much different to a boggo 320d?
Not much. The best spec I think is Modern. Basically all options but without the firm M sport suspension I believe. Had it on my 330d estate and everyone got out the way thinking it was a police car- especially in black with the silver/grey grill.

harleywilma

526 posts

273 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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These type of cars used to make sweet fa in the real world, current prices put them in no mans land, can see this bubble ending very soon..

Gez79

246 posts

213 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Although it's the one I'd least like to own, the insignia has got to be the best Q car on that list, which for me is the car most people would least likely associate with any sort of performance.

I've had a 335i and I'd probably put it second but I think a lot of non-petrol heads would assume that most BMWs are relatively quick, rightly or wrongly.

20 years ago my mum drove a facelift Rover 620ti in the most bland dark blue colour you could get it in. They were all just badged '600' in those days regardless of engine and it was regarded as pretty quick back then. It was a great Q car. Can't remember the last time I saw one and they never come up for sale anymore.

Great list pistonheads!

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

79 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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I love a Q car. Finding out about the existence of the BMW 550i, and subsequently buying an F10 one in the SE spec for extra "don't look at me" vibes was arguably what got me into enjoying car ownership.



Debadged, the E63 is a bit Q car apart from the noise. I do love the Business Edition idea and would definitely have gone for that if it'd been available.

Out of the list I'd probably go for the Lexus. I don't think an S Class can be a Q car. The Vauxhall is too slow and those 3 series are a bit small and cheap-feeling inside.

T1berious

2,675 posts

185 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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335i for me, debadged. Effortless shove and sub 5 to 60 (IIRC). Had the later B58 in a 440i and that was properly quick.

That or the Lexus.

Ikobo

550 posts

179 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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I wouldn't say no to the R36 Passat in estate form, but rarely see them anywhere.