Is clocking a thing of the past with the all connected cars?
Is clocking a thing of the past with the all connected cars?
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catfood12

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1,571 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Is clocking now a thing of the past with all the modern online connected all of the time cars?

They must call home all the time. Looking at the portal for my car, it has the live up to date mileage. Surely this has all put a stop to clocking on the newer stuff.

Do you ever hear of a clocked Tesla?! Haven't they been connected from day one?

Just to be clear, clocking is fraud, I don't condone such a thing, and wonder how all the mileage correction cowboys keep getting away with it. As discussed on here in the past it is rife. Perhaps becoming less so for the modern connected ones....

robertfleckney

93 posts

171 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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No, you can buy and fit devices that effectively ‘lose’ miles as you drive the car. Remove it once you hand it back to the lease company etc etc

Lagom

564 posts

92 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I'd say it's just prolific. Since the advent of the digital dash, there are plenty of (Facebook) companies offering "Mileage Correction" for £200, and dongles on Amazon for sale. Not sure how many makes/models actively call home with their mileage on regular biases but I'd say it's the exception rather than the rule.

It's a favorite of taxi drivers and high-mileage salesmen, simply get your mileage corrected between MOT's and services.

Cloudy147

3,163 posts

213 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Watched a video on YouTube recently which was talking about police cars, and how mileage correction is quite prolific upon auction purchase as they haven't gone through an MOT at time of sale.

Buy a BMW cheap at auction with 170,000 miles on it, clock it down to 60,000, fresh MOT and sell on for profit. Apparently it's a well known 'thing' in the industry, so I'd say it's still very much alive and well, sadly.

Bluemondy

400 posts

111 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I'm no expert in this at all, but my Mazda app tells me the current mileage (and fuel level) anytime I open the app,
so somewhere, somehow, my CX-5 is telling it's mileage. I couldn't say if it's recorded anywhere though


Lagom

564 posts

92 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Cloudy147 said:
Watched a video on YouTube recently which was talking about police cars, and how mileage correction is quite prolific upon auction purchase as they haven't gone through an MOT at time of sale.

Buy a BMW cheap at auction with 170,000 miles on it, clock it down to 60,000, fresh MOT and sell on for profit. Apparently it's a well known 'thing' in the industry, so I'd say it's still very much alive and well, sadly.


Edited by Lagom on Sunday 7th May 19:51

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I would imagine a large percentage of prestige cars on 5K miles a year leases have all had mileage blockers fitted.

And judging by what is considered high mileage for a Ferrari, lots of cars are clocked every year before the MOT.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I bet you could use a tool, esp for BMWs which I know store it, to check stored usage values as a guide.

Pretty sure even in M54 days the DME was storing hours of operation, on/off cycles, average speed, rotations of different parts etc.

Mine even had left hand flasher vs RH flasher count, roof up/down cycles, etc.


A low mileage car that’s done mega miles will stand out.

ridds

8,372 posts

274 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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There are mileage blockers for Lambos (and I assume others).

Super Speeders (Exotic Car Rental guy in the states) found an advert on US ebay with the seller actually advertising it had a blocker, what the dash showed and what it's true mileage was. laugh

LordLoveLength

2,351 posts

160 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Most modern cars log a lot of data in various modules, including the mileage.

Every time there is a glitch, or something unexpected happens or something expected does not, it will be logged, with mileage, speed, time etc. Just to help with tracking intermittent faults etc.
After 2 years most modules will have logged something, and can be interrogated, revealing mileage history.
Unless they’ve been erased, which is a hint in itself.

If I was looking to clock a lease car I’d be more bothered about whether there was a tracker fitted by the lease company. A few people get caught out by this, lease companies aren’t stupid and know what goes on.