Is the saloon making a comeback??
Is the saloon making a comeback??
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irish boy

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3,913 posts

266 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Today I saw 2 Lexus ES, and thought…what a handsome car. Also a Toyota Camry (basically the same thing), a Volvo S90 and a 508 Peugeot.

And randomly an older chap in a 405GLD who possibly bought it new and has seen no reason to change.

The humble saloon has been given a black eye by the crossover over recent years, does it have a come back in it?







Kuwahara

1,551 posts

48 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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I hope so but fear that most of the population still feel the need for AWD to head to Sainsbury’s

Pica-Pica

16,648 posts

114 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Kuwahara said:
I hope so but fear that most of the population still feel the need for AWD to head to Sainsbury’s
AWD can be a saloon you know.

Glenn63

3,951 posts

114 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Iv had a couple saloons, and they are the most impractical body style. More so the ones where the seats don’t fold down. My m140 is way more practical than the c63 it replaced as I can put the seats down and have a van. But they do look good. I’m probably the minority that prefers the Alpina B5 saloon over the estate for looks.

hungry_hog

2,911 posts

218 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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agree some nice saloons out there

I like the 5 series, the Volvo S90, Alfa quodflamingo thingy and the A6 looks decent as well

Proportions on all look great, unlike some of the crossover rubbish!

Wacky Racer

41,363 posts

277 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Saloons are OK, but wouldn't consider one that wasn't a hatchback.

slevin911

652 posts

206 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Judging by your user name you should have realised they have never lefthehe

I don't know how popular they are in the UK but in Ireland they have a weird love for them. My parents have always had saloons like most Irish and unfortunately we get some crappy ones as a result.

My mother currently has a renault fluence which is only made for certain markets( ireland being one of them) and it is absolutely awful in every way.

No doubt there are some great saloons and especially how alot of them are basically hatchbacks and more practical, but most of the regular saloons are absolutely rubbish as you can't get anything into them.

I can probably get more into my toyota bB than both their cars combined and it is tiny compared to them.


Kuwahara

1,551 posts

48 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
AWD can be a saloon you know.
Fair point…

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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Glenn63 said:
Iv had a couple saloons, and they are the most impractical body style. More so the ones where the seats don’t fold down. My m140 is way more practical than the c63 it replaced as I can put the seats down and have a van. But they do look good. I’m probably the minority that prefers the Alpina B5 saloon over the estate for looks.
That’s my experience of saloons too. I’d never have another one again although they do look pretty good.

Mouse Rat

2,103 posts

122 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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I've always preferred saloons / coupes for the looks.

While not as practical as an estate or 4x4, having a segregated boot has benefits.
Refinment, kidnapping, noise, safety.
Passengers not exposed to cold/heat when boot open. Heavy or sharp objects won't act like a human blender in a severe accident or role over.

Wilmslowboy

4,770 posts

236 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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As a family we flipped flopped between SUVs and estates (plus the odd coupe, hatchback), quite often owning one of each at the same time over the past for 30 years.

In almost every way possible, I’ve always found the estate/hatchback cars better than the SUV, I.e. noise, performance, economy (when it comes to snow driving little beats a V70 on winters).

The draw of the SUV, has been the perception of safety, general brand image, and the somewhat arrogant grandiose feeling driving one gives.

For the first time in a long time, we are a non SUV owning household, a people carrier for the mrs and a estate for me. Now our kids are grown up and not withstanding that I’ve always chosen the estate over the saloon…..the pull of an EClass, Jaguar or Lexus saloon is getting stronger.

595Heaven

3,422 posts

108 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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In an EV world, aero is a huge issue.

Reduction in frontal area has one of the biggest impacts in improving the aero and thus range, so making vehicles less tall is critical.



croyde

26,428 posts

260 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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The boot on my Mercury Grand Marquis was so cavernous that I didn't worry about the seats not folding.

I stuck in 6 full size paving slabs and you could still cover them in bodies and get the lid down smile

Miss that car.

My e36 saloon was my daily for 23 years. It did have folding seats, very useful, and if anything longer was carried then it was the roof rack or the roof box.

Saying that, my current Duster is very useful but I miss my saloons and it is so rare to see one on the roads these days.

Natpen79

93 posts

48 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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The latest civic looks more saloon than hatch.
Nice looking motor.

JD82

480 posts

165 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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I’ve had saloons, hatches, coupes and SUVs and I can’t fathom why anyone would choose a saloon variant if there were other options. This is purely from a practicality POV but I suppose it depends on your ‘lifestyle’. Even pre kids I would often need the usefulness of the hatch space on the non saloon cars. Also generally I think estate versions look better but that’s of course very subjective. Each to their own!

JD82

480 posts

165 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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That said… I do have a soft spot for a few saloons; the old Ronin S8 and the RS3 (not sure what gen) saloon to name two both look great

Sensibleboy

1,168 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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I can recall a single time in 15 years of saloon ownership that I couldn't get something in it. No idea what it was though.

What are people transporting that can't go in a saloon?

Wilmslowboy

4,770 posts

236 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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Sensibleboy said:
I can recall a single time in 15 years of saloon ownership that I couldn't get something in it. No idea what it was though.

What are people transporting that can't go in a saloon?
Student crap, bikes, tip trips…..you would struggle to get these two into the biggest of saloons, yet they fitted into a small hatch….(hope the new owner doesn’t see that scratchy paw on the bumper).


Wilmslowboy

4,770 posts

236 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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Student crap….



SFTWend

1,458 posts

105 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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Wilmslowboy said:
Student crap, bikes, tip trips…..you would struggle to get these two into the biggest of saloons, yet they fitted into a small hatch….(hope the new owner doesn’t see that scratchy paw on the bumper).

Gorgeous dogs. I think I lot more people have become dog owners since lockdown, which rules out a saloon.