What are the greatest manual sports/super cars since 2000?
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Gonna be biased and nominate the manual E92 V8 M3.
Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.
Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.
mat205125 said:
Gonna be biased and nominate the manual E92 V8 M3.
Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.
Careful, you'll set cerb4.5lee off about torque if you're not careful! Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.

Whilst many people quite rightly like the engine, to be honest I thought the gearshift itself was a bit cack, really limp plasticy feeling shift as is de rigeur for BMW

Personally, I didn't really find the mythical engine with the squirt of power at 8,000rpm that exciting either (didn't notice that apparent final surge for the redline at all) but I'm aware I'm in the minority there so should keep schtum

As you say though, for the money (or really any amount) there are not a lot of 8,000rpm+ RWD manual V8 options!
SturdyHSV said:
mat205125 said:
Gonna be biased and nominate the manual E92 V8 M3.
Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.
Careful, you'll set cerb4.5lee off about torque if you're not careful! Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.

Whilst many people quite rightly like the engine, to be honest I thought the gearshift itself was a bit cack, really limp plasticy feeling shift as is de rigeur for BMW

Personally, I didn't really find the mythical engine with the squirt of power at 8,000rpm that exciting either (didn't notice that apparent final surge for the redline at all) but I'm aware I'm in the minority there so should keep schtum

As you say though, for the money (or really any amount) there are not a lot of 8,000rpm+ RWD manual V8 options!


The E9x M3 was the first car to come into my mind when I saw the title in fairness. The manual gearbox wasn't all that great as you say and I personally prefer both the manual gearboxes overall in the Cerbera/370Z that I had/have(both have a heavier/more deliberate feel to them that I like). However even 10 years ago when I had the E92 M3 I did think that it would eventually become a very sought after modern classic though for sure.
mat205125 said:
Gonna be biased and nominate the manual E92 V8 M3.
Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.
That would be true if the gearbox wasn't so bloody awful, such a shame as the engine is amazing. Love mine, and can't think of any 400bhp+ RWD NA 8250rpm manual alternatives for close to the money.
Sure, it's got its "niggles", and sure, the DSG alternative does work well with the nature of the engine, but I really wouldn't swap away from the manual option for my weekend toy, road car use.
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