RE: Honda to partner Aston Martin F1 in 2026
RE: Honda to partner Aston Martin F1 in 2026
Wednesday 24th May 2023

Honda to partner Aston Martin F1 in 2026

Honda's racing arm HRC signs deal to supply factory engines to Aston Martin F1


Honda is a funny one. Its participation in F1 in recent years is a little like watching someone contemplating a swim in the biting North Sea: a toe in, a toe out, a toe in again, then all in, then all out again… And it’s just announced it’s all in again for 2026, as an engine supplier to Aston Martin.  

Honda’s last F1 ‘all in’ was with Red Bull Racing, of course, with which it won the driver’s championship in 2021. That was one of the most exciting seasons ever, as Verstappen and Hamilton’s tug of war ebbed and flowed right down to the last race and, very nearly, the last corner of the season. By that stage, Honda had already announced its intention to withdraw as an engine supplier, but softened again and kept a toe in the following year by supporting Red Bull’s 2022 1.6-litre hybrid motor. This year Honda’s racing badge, HRC, is back on the Red Bull’s, so the company’s sort of in again, even now.

But 2026 will be the next big push for HRC. That’s when F1’s engine regulations are due for their next revolution. The 2026 cars will still use hybrid power, but instead of the bulk of that coming from the ICE side – currently that accounts for around 700hp of the power unit’s combined 900hp total – the 2026 power units will require a 50:50 split between petrol and electric. That, of course, is all about F1 being seen to be sustainable as it strives to be carbon neutral by 2030. And on that point, the ICEs will also be running on ‘green’ synthetic fuel under the new regulations.

This is why Honda says it’s decided to go all in again. The reason it cited for its last departure was to focus on developing its electric powertrains rather than seen to be faffing about with old technology. But with 50 per cent of F1’s power coming from electricity from 2026, HRC has decided that’s enough of a valuable gain in transferrable R&D – to its road cars – and F1’s green dream ties in with Honda’s environmentally friendly image.

This was confirmed by Toshihiro Mibe, Global CEO of Honda, who said, "One of the key reasons for our decision to take up the new challenge in F1 is that the world's pinnacle form of racing is striving to become a sustainable racing series, which is in line with the direction Honda is aiming toward carbon neutrality, and it will become a platform which will facilitate the development of our electrification technologies".

For Aston Martin, it’s yet another signal of Lawrence Stroll’s commitment to building a championship-winning team. For a start, HRC wouldn’t be partnering with Aston if it weren’t confident about the operation’s ability to produce a competitive chassis – especially as HRC is currently leading this year’s driver’s and constructor’s titles with Red Bull.

Since buying the Silverstone-based team (which was originally Jordan F1) Stroll has expanded the factory, the staff and invested in a new wind tunnel. And this year is the first fruit of that investment. The current AMR23 was fast in pre-season testing and has followed that up in racing. At times this year it has been the second-fastest car on the grid, behind the (so far) all-conquering, Adrian Newey-designed Red Bull RB19.

Concerning the deal, Stroll said, "I would like to welcome Honda and HRC to the Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team. We share a mutual drive, determination, and relentless ambition to succeed on track. Honda is a global titan and its success in motorsport is longstanding and incredibly impressive. I would like to thank Mr. Mibe and Mr. Watanabe, and the whole team at HRC as we embark on this exciting future together from 2026".

Aston Martin is currently second in the driver’s championship, which is a remarkable turnaround from last year and highly impressive. It puts them two places ahead of Ferrari and ahead of the factory Mercedes team, of which Aston Martin is currently a customer. The AMR23 has the same Mercedes power unit as the official Mercedes cars, yet in being ahead in the standings that's proof that Aston's built a better, quicker car on a smaller budget.

Stroll also brought Fernando Alonso in this year as his number one driver, partnering his son, Lance. Despite approaching 42-years old, Alonso is as fast as ever – proved by him sitting in third place in the Driver’s championship, behind Verstappen and Red Bull’s second driver, Sergio Perez. Whether Alonso’s age will have caught up with him by 2026, who knows - but if he’s still there then, when HRC and Aston combine, it would be ironic.

Alonso was famously highly critical of Honda’s original hybrid engine when it returned (all in) with McLaren in 2015. To be fair, the engine was down on power and blew up regularly and spectacularly, but some of Alonso’s comments were particularly pernicious. One would imagine they still linger in the memories of HRC’s top dawgs.

That would certainly add another exciting twist in the Honda-Aston Martin story. One thing is for sure, though, Honda has a long history of success in F1 up to and including the present day, so there’s good reason to believe it will be successful come 2026. That would mean Aston Martin would be successful, too, and what F1 needs, as ever, is more teams able to fight for wins and championships. So this is good news all round. 


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TheMachMan

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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They certainly do chop n change their level of participation.
I wonder why they haven’t re-engaged with Red Bull though?
I guess Alonso will be off by then though so won’t be a factor plenty of other talent around.

Lovey1

545 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Red Bull have aligned themselves with Ford and plan to build their own. However what was the Honda factory which is now Red Bull powertrains so i am guessing Honda will be starting from fresh again and this has usually taken a while to become successful. Its certainly going to be interesting.

romac

608 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Honda should be able to take what they currently have, surely?
Otherwise: Alonso + F2 engines = Unhappy Stroller!

Red6

662 posts

86 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Honda are in and out like nobody's business. This is fairly tiresome.

SSO

1,603 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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romac said:
Honda should be able to take what they currently have, surely?
Otherwise: Alonso + F2 engines = Unhappy Stroller!
Really depends on who owns what IP.

Other way of looking at this is Mercedes indicated they would not renew the engine supply agreement with AMF1/Racing Point post 2025 and the only option Stroll had was to turn to Honda.

Terminator X

20,784 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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50% electric? Not sure F1 is for me at that point.

Tx.

oilit

2,814 posts

208 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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SSO said:
romac said:
Honda should be able to take what they currently have, surely?
Otherwise: Alonso + F2 engines = Unhappy Stroller!
Really depends on who owns what IP.

Other way of looking at this is Mercedes indicated they would not renew the engine supply agreement with AMF1/Racing Point post 2025 and the only option Stroll had was to turn to Honda.
It does feel as if the MB AM engagement has been called off on the circuit and in the main car business.

SSO

1,603 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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oilit said:
SSO said:
romac said:
Honda should be able to take what they currently have, surely?
Otherwise: Alonso + F2 engines = Unhappy Stroller!
Really depends on who owns what IP.

Other way of looking at this is Mercedes indicated they would not renew the engine supply agreement with AMF1/Racing Point post 2025 and the only option Stroll had was to turn to Honda.
It does feel as if the MB AM engagement has been called off on the circuit and in the main car business.
Yes.

Its also a clear indication that Alonso will not be driving for AMF1 come 2026.

Cold

16,727 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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SSO said:
Yes.

Its also a clear indication that Alonso will not be driving for AMF1 come 2026.

ManyMotors

1,108 posts

128 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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So will this have an effect on the cars that AM sells now with MB components? Will the 2026 AM DBH have a K20C1?

Muzzer79

13,167 posts

217 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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SSO said:
oilit said:
SSO said:
romac said:
Honda should be able to take what they currently have, surely?
Otherwise: Alonso + F2 engines = Unhappy Stroller!
Really depends on who owns what IP.

Other way of looking at this is Mercedes indicated they would not renew the engine supply agreement with AMF1/Racing Point post 2025 and the only option Stroll had was to turn to Honda.
It does feel as if the MB AM engagement has been called off on the circuit and in the main car business.
Yes.

Its also a clear indication that Alonso will not be driving for AMF1 come 2026.
To be fair, Alonso will be 45 years old in 2026 so it's a fair bet that he won't be driving for anyone in F1.

Muzzer79

13,167 posts

217 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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ManyMotors said:
So will this have an effect on the cars that AM sells now with MB components? Will the 2026 AM DBH have a K20C1?
As I see it, this is a deal to supply an F1 team with engines in 2026.

That F1 team is sponsored by Aston Martin (at the moment)

Aston Martin do not own that F1 team. This deal is nothing to do with road cars.

I suspect that by 2026, the team will be called something else and AM will be out of the picture of any connection with Honda.

gruppeb86

641 posts

43 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Shaping up quite nicely for 2026 with engine suppliers.

bigaoi

191 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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2021 Red Bull Racing Honda
2022 Red Bull Racing RBPT
2023 Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT

You know it makes sense (and Honda were always actually producing the engines). Honda. Bonkers. But I love them.

ManyMotors

1,108 posts

128 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
ManyMotors said:
So will this have an effect on the cars that AM sells now with MB components? Will the 2026 AM DBH have a K20C1?
As I see it, this is a deal to supply an F1 team with engines in 2026.

That F1 team is sponsored by Aston Martin (at the moment)

Aston Martin do not own that F1 team. This deal is nothing to do with road cars.

I suspect that by 2026, the team will be called something else and AM will be out of the picture of any connection with Honda.
You are correct. Larry Stroll owns the F1 team. That distinction is noted in an article today appearing on Automotive News Europe entitled, "Aston Martin's road car ties unchanged by F1 deal". I saw that subsequent to my original comment.

nismo48

7,136 posts

237 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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bigaoi said:
2021 Red Bull Racing Honda
2022 Red Bull Racing RBPT
2023 Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT

You know it makes sense (and Honda were always actually producing the engines). Honda. Bonkers. But I love them.
Good luck to them smile

thegreenhell

24,136 posts

249 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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ManyMotors said:
Muzzer79 said:
ManyMotors said:
So will this have an effect on the cars that AM sells now with MB components? Will the 2026 AM DBH have a K20C1?
As I see it, this is a deal to supply an F1 team with engines in 2026.

That F1 team is sponsored by Aston Martin (at the moment)

Aston Martin do not own that F1 team. This deal is nothing to do with road cars.

I suspect that by 2026, the team will be called something else and AM will be out of the picture of any connection with Honda.
You are correct. Larry Stroll owns the F1 team. That distinction is noted in an article today appearing on Automotive News Europe entitled, "Aston Martin's road car ties unchanged by F1 deal". I saw that subsequent to my original comment.
Indeed, and in fact we have already had two years (2019 and 2020) when there was an F1 team entered as Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda with no conflicts of interest with the Mercedes engines in the AM road cars. The only difference now is that Stroll has diverted the AM sponsorship to his own team Racing Point.

dfisix

57 posts

41 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
I suspect that by 2026, the team will be called something else and AM will be out of the picture of any connection with Honda.
I doubt that. AM and the F1 teams are separate entities, but they are surely entwined strategically for Stroll. He'll want to keep using F1 to promote the Aston Martin brand. Isn't that the point of owning both of them?

dfisix

57 posts

41 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
I suspect that by 2026, the team will be called something else and AM will be out of the picture of any connection with Honda.
I doubt that. AM and the F1 teams are separate entities, but they are surely entwined strategically for Stroll. He'll want to keep using F1 to promote the Aston Martin brand. Isn't that the point of owning both of them?

thegreenhell

24,136 posts

249 months

Friday 26th May 2023
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dfisix said:
Muzzer79 said:
I suspect that by 2026, the team will be called something else and AM will be out of the picture of any connection with Honda.
I doubt that. AM and the F1 teams are separate entities, but they are surely entwined strategically for Stroll. He'll want to keep using F1 to promote the Aston Martin brand. Isn't that the point of owning both of them?
That's true only for as long as he owns both. And he doesn't really own AML PLC. He's head of a consortium that owns 21%, and as the largest single shareholder he has become the group chairman. The problem is that as a loss-making company that needs to periodically refinance to stay solvent, his position is getting gradually weaker as other shareholders grow their share. Geely is now up to 17%, and if they need to refinance again Stroll will need to be careful who invests to enable him to retain control, and he may need to dip into his own packets again to do so.

As for the F1 team, it will be known as AM for as long as Stroll is still in control of the car company. However, we should also consider how big is Lance's appetite for being continually beaten by his teammate and for how long they both want to continue with that endeavour. Another four years and they might say enough is enough, who knows? Either way, I'm fairly certain that as soon as either Stroll has had enough of F1 then the link between AM car co and F1 team will be broken pretty swiftly and one or both companies sold to the highest bidder.