Diesel not dead
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Just borrowed one for the weekend, I normally drive petrol and am very impressed. Just nice relaxed easy driving, with economy back to the old days at 12p per mile (400 miles clocked) and still got half a tank left!
Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….
Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….

Ohio7274 said:
Just borrowed one for the weekend, I normally drive petrol and am very impressed. Just nice relaxed easy driving, with economy back to the old days at 12p per mile (400 miles clocked) and still got half a tank left!
Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….
Thrilling.Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….

Might as well, as long as not caught up in any Ulez zones etc
Plus the fuel price is pretty much on parity to petrol now..
My 2014 Skoda averages over 60mpg, drives well, £30 a year car tax.
800 odd mpg range often seen. Well over a month beteen fills.
I should change it for a petrol/hybrid/electric… been putting it off for a few years. A few more years hopefully.
Will buy an EV when they are cheaper & better than they are now. Or the current 10 year old cars go pop. EV in the early beta tester phase it seems. Rapid improvements & getting more affordable.
Plus the fuel price is pretty much on parity to petrol now..
My 2014 Skoda averages over 60mpg, drives well, £30 a year car tax.
800 odd mpg range often seen. Well over a month beteen fills.
I should change it for a petrol/hybrid/electric… been putting it off for a few years. A few more years hopefully.
Will buy an EV when they are cheaper & better than they are now. Or the current 10 year old cars go pop. EV in the early beta tester phase it seems. Rapid improvements & getting more affordable.
Grumps. said:
Ohio7274 said:
Just borrowed one for the weekend, I normally drive petrol and am very impressed. Just nice relaxed easy driving, with economy back to the old days at 12p per mile (400 miles clocked) and still got half a tank left!
Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….
Thrilling.Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….

My 2017 1.3 CDTi Vauxhall Combo van is massive fun to drive. For a little engine it performs admirably. Great fun on the back roads, a mile muncher on motorways and A-roads, and always bags of torque in the mid range to get out of scrapes and pass the dawdlers.
Throw my van around all over the place - done 107,686 miles in 15 months (nationwide same day courier), averaging around 15.3p per mie (given the massive price increases last yr) - currently runs around 13-13.5p per mile.
Throw in a diesel fuel card and it's cheap motoring all round.
And did I mention it was fun to drive ? A van. I know. Who knew ?
Throw my van around all over the place - done 107,686 miles in 15 months (nationwide same day courier), averaging around 15.3p per mie (given the massive price increases last yr) - currently runs around 13-13.5p per mile.
Throw in a diesel fuel card and it's cheap motoring all round.
And did I mention it was fun to drive ? A van. I know. Who knew ?
Ohio7274 said:
Just borrowed one for the weekend, I normally drive petrol and am very impressed. Just nice relaxed easy driving, with economy back to the old days at 12p per mile (400 miles clocked) and still got half a tank left!
Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….
Good for you champ! Have a biscuit.Probably close to an 800 mile range, eat that EVers. And no it’s not about bladder capacity, no I don’t want a meal at Moto for hours while I have to wait for a free working charger, it’s about being able to drive miles away and back without having to refuel at all, just so much more convenient.
Seriously considering buying a diesel as a next car….

The late 2000’s were fun.
Are car manufacturers still investing in development of diesel engines?
I don’t know the answer, but resources must be getting really stretched at the moment while they continue to develop EV technology, plus various types of hybrid while still improving petrol engines for the time being. Also a number of them seem to be hedging their bets and looking at other potential alternatives to electric. It all must be costing an absolute fortune.
Knowing that diesel is basically a dead duck now, for cars at least, I can see them being pushed to the bottom of the pile with no real chance of a resurgence.
I don’t know the answer, but resources must be getting really stretched at the moment while they continue to develop EV technology, plus various types of hybrid while still improving petrol engines for the time being. Also a number of them seem to be hedging their bets and looking at other potential alternatives to electric. It all must be costing an absolute fortune.
Knowing that diesel is basically a dead duck now, for cars at least, I can see them being pushed to the bottom of the pile with no real chance of a resurgence.
Diesel will "rattle" on for a good few years yet, there is no viable replacement for long range passenger vehicles and transport.
But, it will come, there will be a time when new EV's just make them look like dinosaurs, but we arent there yet.
Another ten years and I expect that the EV's being produced will have overtaken and improved on anything any ICE can do in the metrics most people buy their cars on
Not sure why everyone has to pick a corner ? Pick what suits you at that point in time, dont feel the need to slag EV's or Diesels off as I have a Petrol car at the moment, I find it weird the vitriol some have for diesels (Council ffs) or particularly EV's.
I think a lot of it is fear of the unknown, its like your grandparents going on about not eating "Foreign muck" in a lot of cases, wouldn't ever try it but managed to decided anything that wasn't covered in gravy or custard was inedible. Amazing what you miss out on if you close your mind and choose a hill to die on.
But, it will come, there will be a time when new EV's just make them look like dinosaurs, but we arent there yet.
Another ten years and I expect that the EV's being produced will have overtaken and improved on anything any ICE can do in the metrics most people buy their cars on
Not sure why everyone has to pick a corner ? Pick what suits you at that point in time, dont feel the need to slag EV's or Diesels off as I have a Petrol car at the moment, I find it weird the vitriol some have for diesels (Council ffs) or particularly EV's.
I think a lot of it is fear of the unknown, its like your grandparents going on about not eating "Foreign muck" in a lot of cases, wouldn't ever try it but managed to decided anything that wasn't covered in gravy or custard was inedible. Amazing what you miss out on if you close your mind and choose a hill to die on.
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