RE: Rover 213 (SD3) | Spotted
RE: Rover 213 (SD3) | Spotted
Tuesday 20th June 2023

Rover 213 (SD3) | Spotted

Remember the SD3? Talk about a memory-maker...


I would say don’t laugh, but what’s the point? You’re going to laugh anyway when I tell you that I once wanted a Rover 213 SE, just like this one. And the reason I wanted one? I’m not even sure. In the back of my mind, I think they might’ve had a surprisingly low insurance group, but I might be misremembering that entirely. If anything, it was more likely to be the opposite. It was based on the Honda Ballade, of course, and Japanese cars were notoriously pricey to insure.

It probably had something to do with the allure and prestige of the Rover badge, too, which shows you just how old I am. You could also probably swap the word ‘prestige’ for ‘pomposity’ to be honest. Because while the rest of my age group was being bombarded with advertising encouraging them to buy Nike Air Jordan IIIs, which would make them look cool, I was being indoctrinated to want a frumpy Rover 200 by watching episodes of Keeping Up Appearances. And that’s another thing I really shouldn’t have admitted to. In my defence, it was one of number of ropey BBC sitcoms I watched for the simple reason it meant postponing doing my homework for another half an hour. Last of the Summer Wine was another I endured because it was a better option than some Sunday night algebra.

The thing is, I quite liked the look of the old SD3. It had nice proportions and a clean, elegance about it. At least it did to me back then. And I must point out, too, that I wasn’t your typical teenage boy. I didn’t much hanker after the usual crop of hot hatchbacks from the day. By the time I’d hit 20, my car purchases had included a Mk2 Vauxhall Cavalier Antibes, a Mk3 Ford Granada 2.4i Ghia X and a Series 2 Daimler Six. I think that, had the SD3 fascination manifested, it would’ve slotted in after the Cavalier.

In the end I never owned a 200 and I have, to date, never driven one. Was it a bad car? That’s a genuine question to those that know, by the way. My impression is they were okay to drive, if you weren’t looking for the last word in handling and preferred, instead, a modicum of comfort. Soft springs to go with those softly cushioned velour seats, perhaps? And then there was the reliability factor of Honda hardware. The 216 versions used BL’s S-Series engine, but the 12-valve in the 213 was a trusty Honda motor. The gearbox was Honda’s, too, which applied whether you went for the five-speed manual or this version’s three-speed auto.

That said, the 200 was constructed at Longbridge, and clearly Honda had its doubts about how well they were being put together. The 200’s sibling, the Ballade, was built on the same line, but rather than let Ballades go straight out to its customers, Honda shipped them up to its new Swindon plant for a once over and some peace of mind.

I’ve absolutely no idea what the response will be to seeing this car. It interested me because it brought back memories I had long relegated to the depths of my mind. The SD3, too, had ceased to exist in any meaningful sense in my brain, and, like certain scents or a particular piece of music, it reactivated those withering synapses. If nothing else, that pleased me. And seeing one, let alone one in such lovely condition and with so few miles on the clock, I hope will bring a warm response to others, too. I am not holding out much hope of that, mind you.


SPECIFICATION | Rover 213 SE (SD3)

Engine: 1,342cc, four cylinder, naturally aspirated
Transmission: 3-speed automatic, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 70 @ 5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 73 @ 3,500rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: N/A
Recorded mileage: 32,000
Year registered: 1989
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £5,500

See the original advert here

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Turini

Original Poster:

474 posts

195 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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My goodness - how far car design has moved on since this

Triumph Man

9,581 posts

197 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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Used to laugh at these, but, if you think about it, they made complete sense. The man who would have had a P5 in the 60s would have probably been getting on a bit by the time these were launched, still wanted a Rover badge and prestige, but something in a smaller package. It's the original Audi A1 or BMW 1 series - something with the prestige but smaller and more manageable.

WPA

14,658 posts

143 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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I am getting Keeping Up Appearances vibes from this.

£5500 is mad, rubbish car new and time has not helped

shambolic

2,146 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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My first car was a 216SE in gold. Only because an aunt sold me it cheap. Think it was E 113 XSB. Sold it following year as insurance renewal was £1300 in 1991/2

Turbobanana

8,347 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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The author is right to predict a slating, but if you were around when these were new you'll know how good they are.

Yes, the three-box shape was old hat by the early 80s, but these sold like hot cakes and were comfortable, reliable and economical. They looked smart, drove well and were - by the standards of the time - quite resistant to rust. The Vitesse, with an injected 1.6, went quite well and looked good with its alloys, spoiler and stripes. Interiors were well put together and used quality materials. I don't recall any particular mechanical issues, even with the Rover unit.

None of the above will matter a jot to those viewing with 21st Century eyes: you'll consider it crap, dated and slow. In its day it was none of these things.

dbdb

5,191 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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I remember the 200-series Rovers as being a good if very conservative car which was very comfortable and luxurious for the money. Rust was the killer for these, IIRC they were reliable other than that. They seemed to struggle to be viewed as a 'proper Rover' and their image conveyed an unfashionable kind of social aspiration which hurt them.

Ussrcossack

1,102 posts

71 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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Passed my test in one

urquattroGus

2,065 posts

219 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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Richard!!!


Richaaaard!!

J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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WPA said:
I am getting Keeping Up Appearances vibes from this.

£5500 is mad, rubbish car new and time has not helped
What makes it rubbish, what else was leagues ahead 40 years ago when these first appeared ?

MK3 Escort, MK2 Astra, Mk2 Golf etc etc.

I can see how its a bit old man, and didnt/doesnt appeal to me but it wasnt a terrible car in comparison to anything else, only ever driven one, a 216 VDP no less and it seemed quite nice to me in about 1989.

Is it the knee jerk reaction to anything with a Rover badge, or was the Honda Ballade (basically the same car) as terrible ?

Cardiff_Exile

348 posts

205 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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Brings back memories! At 18 (mid 90s) I had a 216 Vitesse and it was reasonable iirc and I fondly recall the super slow electric windows!

BikeSausage

730 posts

97 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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I had a 1992 416 (the subsequent body shape) albeit with the Honda engine. Also an auto because I’d done my knee in and my boss swapped my Chavalier for the auto Rover. It happened to arrive with aircon which was quite the luxury for a junior manager in those days.

After 2 years and 90k miles of absolute thrashing around the East of England before speed cameras arrived, the car was falling apart but the engine was very sweet indeed.

Lotobear

9,050 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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That's the old Vickers tank factory on the other side of the river, probably the most interesting thing in the advert

Wren-went

1,062 posts

67 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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I'm embarrassed to say at 17 after passing my test.late 80s I use to use my Dad's new G reg 216SE lovely blue, that was the start of 4 Rover and MGs .

This was the only new Rover my Dad ever bought the rest were around a years old..

Strangely until my Dad's Rovers I always remembered his registrations I don't remember a single Rover plate , think once he got to 50 he lost the thrill of having a nice car.

boyse7en

8,172 posts

194 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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Turbobanana said:
The author is right to predict a slating, but if you were around when these were new you'll know how good they are.

Yes, the three-box shape was old hat by the early 80s, but these sold like hot cakes and were comfortable, reliable and economical. They looked smart, drove well and were - by the standards of the time - quite resistant to rust. The Vitesse, with an injected 1.6, went quite well and looked good with its alloys, spoiler and stripes. Interiors were well put together and used quality materials. I don't recall any particular mechanical issues, even with the Rover unit.

None of the above will matter a jot to those viewing with 21st Century eyes: you'll consider it crap, dated and slow. In its day it was none of these things.
I'm going to agree and disagree with you on this one.

I had a white 213 SE virtually identical to the one in the pictures (although mine had a brown/tan interior)
For a 1.3 it was quick compared to contemporary 1.3 models like Metros, Astras and Sierras and the handling was pretty good and certainly more comfortable than the Austin Mini I traded up from.
Where I disagree is that it didn't rust. Mine rusted from the bottom up with great alacrity – to the extent that I sprayed everything below the rubbing strip line with Schutz textured chassis paint to hide the bubbling. Looked OK from about 10ft.

Deranged Rover

4,652 posts

103 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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It was a pleasant but unremarkable car then, and it's a pleasant but unremarkable car now.

Sadly, £5,500 is neither pleasant nor unremarkable.

pb8g09

3,219 posts

98 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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That’s B-U-C-K-E-T


I would rather spend the £5.5k on taxis

Neil1323bolts

1,256 posts

135 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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I had a 216 for a while as a work car , went ok other than that not a lot good about it from my point of view , but it was very cheap motoring, I paid £75 pounds for it ! Oh and the heater was broken which did pose some problems in the winter months .

hepy

1,366 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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In the mid 80's golf clubs were full of these?

I believe it came with a tartan rug as standard.

Robertb

3,838 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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I had a 213SE (pre facelift) as my first car. It was a very good car if I recall... good ride, decent handling, nice engine, and the interior was very civilised. 17 y.o I was very proud of it!

The only problem was corrosion on the sills.

Horsebox Man

107 posts

45 months

Tuesday 20th June 2023
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These were so much better that the equivalent Ford of the time. My Mk5 Escort fell apart in two weeks and I rejected it, replaced with a 216 EFI VDP which was such a better car.
People may scoff but as a new purchase, I had first hand knowledge.

It got wrote off by a Reliant that went on its side and skidded straight in to its side while I was waiting at a T junction.