RE: Getting a grip with PH Project Car
RE: Getting a grip with PH Project Car
Saturday 1st July 2023

Getting a grip with PH Project Car

The GTI isn't the only thing that needs an upgrade | Promoted


If there’s anything that our Golf GTI track car build has taught me, it’s that you need to make the most of the mods you have before you start bolting on new parts willy-nilly. That’s a lot easier said than done, now that I’ve acquired a taste for unboxing all the shiny go-faster bits we sourced from eBay. However, the reality is I’m just not fast enough to get the maximum out of the upgraded brakes, coilovers and tyres we slapped onto PH Project Car in the last episode.

Sure, I’ve done my fair share of track days, but when there’s no competition to go up against – or you’re held back by a manufacturer that doesn’t want to see its latest supercar upside down and on fire – it’s hard to nail down the skills needed to become a master helmsman. (If those sound like racing driver excuses, then I’m clearly on the right track.) Thankfully, Porsche Carrera Cup Pro/Am champion and friend of PH, Charles Rainford, was on hand to show me the racing driver traits that actually matter (i.e. going fast). Despite being my rival in our £10,000 track car build, Charles made it clear that he’s seen several areas that I need to work on after watching our initial track session in the second episode. So, he kindly offered to train me up. Mostly out of pity.

Our classroom was the Grand Prix loop at Brands Hatch; a layout that’s rarely open for public track days, so obviously we had to make the most of it. Ideally, we’d use a data logger to analyse where I need to improve on circuit, but as these are typically prohibited on public track days we went on the hunt for an action camera on eBay. While Charles’ tuition was invaluable out on track, it’s a lot easier to see where you’re mucking up when not in the throes of hammering an old hatchback around one of Britain’s best circuits.

Once our morning sessions were in the bag, there were two key areas his nibs earmarked for improvement. The first was using the full width of the track. Sounds easy to rectify on paper, but most of the circuit’s braking zones require a degree of braking while turning – which was unsettling the GTI on approach to Paddock Hill bend, leaving me with little confidence heading into the blind right-hander of Dingle Dell. I was also far too inconsistent under braking; hitting the middle pedal far too early in some bends and too firmly in others. 

Putting Charles’ insights to good use, I immediately felt more confident in GTI’s – and my own – ability to string a quick lap together and experience the glorious flow of the Grand Prix circuit. Crucially, though, I could feel all the new components we’d bolted onto the GTI working their magic. The Nankang NS-2R’s offer a ridiculous amount of grip in the corners, while the level platform offered by the BC Racing coilovers meant I wasn’t wrestling to keep the GTI’s near-1,400kg weight under control. (And, no, we haven’t done anything to lower that figure yet.)

Not only did I come away from Brands Hatch a significantly better driver – at least in terms of confidence – I also found myself with a much better understanding of what we’ve done to the GTI. That’s why driver training is crucial to making the most of a track build: you can throw as many expensive performance parts at your car as you like, but you’re probably not getting the most out of them if you’ve never had any sort of tuition with someone who knows what they’re doing. Trust me, there’s nothing better than paying someone money to tell you you’re slow - and how to overcome it. That said, even after making up five seconds with a bit of training, it was evident the GTI just wasn’t fast enough on the straights. Time for a tune-up, I think.


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ghuk

Original Poster:

107 posts

178 months

Saturday 1st July 2023
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Used to adore my Mk5 Golf GTI! Such good memories of that car............apart from the bill that I recieved on replacing the clutch, fly wheel & exhaust cam shaft.

Now my 7.5 GTI is in my local tyre garage today for a new set of Michelin Pilot Sport 5's. Looking forward to a spirited drive later

Edited by ghuk on Saturday 1st July 09:37


Edited by ghuk on Saturday 1st July 09:38

nismo48

7,127 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st July 2023
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This is coming along nicely, looking forward to seeing what's next thumbup

daytonavrs

1,085 posts

114 months

Saturday 1st July 2023
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Why doesn't he just drive it then, you are benchmarking difference between cars not drivers isn't it ?

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

224 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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5 seconds is a huge improvement. Imagine what you'd have to spend on the car to get that improvement, and you got that just with a days training instead. Best "mod" ever.

Olivergt

2,267 posts

111 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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daytonavrs said:
Why doesn't he just drive it then, you are benchmarking difference between cars not drivers isn't it ?
This all day long.

Another option is that both drivers drive both cars and amalgamate the results.

Or, maybe, eBay are going to start selling better drivers, then everybody can easily make whatever car they have faster around a track?

Water Fairy

6,619 posts

185 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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daytonavrs said:
Why doesn't he just drive it then, you are benchmarking difference between cars not drivers isn't it ?
This, otherwise a rather pointless exercise

Mr-B

5,091 posts

224 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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big_rob_sydney said:
5 seconds is a huge improvement. Imagine what you'd have to spend on the car to get that improvement, and you got that just with a days training instead. Best "mod" ever.
And the mod is transferable to every other car you own or buy (as long as it's a front drive hatch) Even if you buy RWD/4WD most of it is still relevant too wrt to lines/braking etc.

Wonder if the cost of the tuition and gopro is included in the 10k budget?

Its Just Adz

18,981 posts

239 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Excellent photos of it on track, kudos to the photographer.

FaustF

810 posts

184 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Good update and absolutely the case as a huge mod.

Enjoying this project

herebebeasties

754 posts

249 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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PH really should credit the photographer, especially in articles like this.
Those are some lovely panning/motion shots, very well framed and judged.

MiniMan64

19,467 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Needs more mentions of eBay and more strategically placed eBay boxes.

_Neal_

2,954 posts

249 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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article said:
which was unsettling the GTI on approach to Paddock Hill bend, leaving me with little confidence heading into the blind right-hander of Dingle Dell
Paddock Hill leads into a hairpin (Druids?) rather than a blind right I think - Dingle Dell is on the GP track in the forest if I recall correctly.

Sounds a fun day either way (I've done quite a lot of trackdays at Brands Indy, never done the GP layout).

Edited by _Neal_ on Monday 3rd July 19:26

Scottie - NW

1,388 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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Water Fairy said:
daytonavrs said:
Why doesn't he just drive it then, you are benchmarking difference between cars not drivers isn't it ?
This, otherwise a rather pointless exercise
Totally agree, this is becoming a parody and mixing up too many factors.

Same driver, both cars, let's see what improvements can be made including labour costs and not making the original car poor to use on a daily basis, otherwise it's not a remotely equal comparison with the later golf.

sinisterpenguin

65 posts

49 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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MiniMan64 said:
Needs more mentions of eBay and more strategically placed eBay boxes.
To be fair the article is clearly marked as promoted & PH is a business which needs to make money.

It is a little annoying but we just have to suck it up sometimes in exchange for a lot of great free content!