RE: Lancia Thema 8.32 | Spotted
RE: Lancia Thema 8.32 | Spotted
Monday 3rd July 2023

Lancia Thema 8.32 | Spotted

A Ferrari engine assembled by Ducati, styling by ItalDesign and a Poltrona Frau interior. Swoon


About a decade ago, a certain motoring TV show put out a segment reminding us all that Lancia was a very clever car company indeed. Aside from the bonkers rally machines that swept up silverware in the 1970s, '80s and '90s, which saw the first use of twin-charging with the Delta S4, Lancia’s road cars were crammed with innovations that would become commonplace in the industry.

First production car with fully independent suspension? The Aurelia. First unibody car? The Lambda, all the way back from 1922. Active aerodynamics? That’d be the car you see here, the Lancia Thema 8.32. Okay, so it’s not a particularly clever system, with a small spoiler popping out from the boot lid at the flick of a switch, but it is now a near-40-year-old car. The electrical wizardry didn’t stop there, either. The rear headrests would emerge from the seat backs when opening the rear doors. Apparently, the seats were also fitted with pressure sensors and would retract if a car seat was fitted – all in the name of improving rear visibility.

Funny how most remember the Thema 8.32 for the bits that pop up (or perhaps it’s just me), because the more obvious draw is what’s up front: Ferrari’s Tipo F105L V8. It’s based on the same 2.9-litre, 32-valve architecture (8.32 meaning the number of cylinders and valve count) that powers the 308 GTB QV and Mondial QV, only a smooth cross-plane crank was fitted in place of the Ferrari flat-plane crank. The motor was also used in the Lancia LC2 Group C monster with a couple of turbos strapped to it, such is the versatility of the Tipo F105. For the Thema, though, Ferrari merely supplied the parts, with Ducati taking care of the assembly.

When you think of it, the Thema was a sort of ‘Now That’s What I Call Italian Icons’. ItalDesign’s Giorgetto Giugiaro was responsible for the styling, and that sumptuous and very chocolatey interior comes courtesy of Italian furniture maker Poltrona Frau. The result is a car that started life as a humble and relatively unremarkable four-door saloon, before winding up as a sumptuous, supercar-powered grand tourer.

For all of the Thema’s suave sophistication, it’s still a mid-80s Italian saloon with plenty of quirks. The engine may come from Maranello, but power is sent exclusively to the front wheels. And although the Alfa 164 and Saab 9000 (also built on the Type Four platform) were offered in right-hand drive form, the Thema 8.32 was only ever sold in left-hand drive, which somewhat dented its appeal in the UK. That, and the fact that it cost around £40,000 when new. I’ve seen sales figures as low as seven and as high as nine. Either way, it’s a rare sight in the PH classifieds.

Hence the immense glee that resulted from stumbling across this stunning Blizzard Blue example. I’m a sucker for pinstripes, too, which is one of the few ways to spot an 8.32 against a boggo Thema. This 70,000-mile car looks to be in immaculate condition, with the ad claiming that it has undergone a £16,000 engine rebuild at an official Ferrari dealer. New Bilstein dampers were also recently fitted, so it’s ripe for a road trip down to the Tuscan hills. There are more sensible ways to spend £29,950, but sod them. It’s a Lancia with a Ferrari engine. It doesn’t get much better than this. 


SPECIFICATION | LANCIA THEMA 8.32

Engine: 2,927cc V8
Transmission: five-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 215@6,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 209@4,500rpm
MPG: 26.9
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1990
Recorded mileage: 75,000
Price new: £40,000
Yours for: £29,950

See the original advert here

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Motormouth88

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789 posts

90 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Love how left field this is but not at 30k

manureboots

44 posts

189 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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That is actually a beautiful car!
That interior, a lovely place to shed tears when it breaks down ..

ducnick

2,276 posts

273 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Lovely old thing. Gorgeous interior (they don’t make them like that anymore- sadly)….
But I’ve driven a Saab 9000, and it was uninspiring to say the least. I’ve not driven an Alfa 164 or the lancia thema but I find it hard to imagine they are much different from their Saab sibling. For me, a Maserati 430 or later QP4 would be a cheaper and better bet if f you wanted 4 door Italian luxury from this era.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Lovely, but comes with all the worries of maintaining a 40 year old Italian-built car. Having been there and done that, my pockets are no longer deep enough.

That interior is gorgeous though.


ingenieur

4,653 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Considered one of these when they were about £6k but in the end just could not bear the idea of left-hand-drive in a RHD country. Imagine trying to overtake without being able to see around the vehicle in front.

bmv6197

100 posts

133 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Always had a soft spot for these - I seem to recall a story where Jean Alesi and Gerhard Berger as Ferrari’s F1 drivers at the time borrowed Jean Todt’s 8.32 and one of them pulled the handbrake while the other was driving, as they pulled into Fiorano. The car flipped onto the roof and they arrived at the front door upside down… Not sure how true it is but it adds to the notoriety of the Thema 8.32 at least!

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Looks a spectacularly clean car.

Price aside, I'm not convinced I'd be brave enough...

bangerhoarder

809 posts

98 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Many years ago, we had a Fiat Croma i.e. Turbo (same platform but with the 2.0 16 valve engine that was ubiquitous).

Great car. It did increase the want for the 8.32 despite the potentially ruinous running costs!

mrpenks

391 posts

185 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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How on earth did Lancia not capitalise on their amazing history of cars?

Jon_S_Rally

4,469 posts

118 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Not a car I have any desire to own, but I'm glad it exists. A real curio. Has there ever been another transverse, FWD V8-powered car?

JJJ.

5,601 posts

45 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Hard not to like, value too.

mrpenks

391 posts

185 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Not a car I have any desire to own, but I'm glad it exists. A real curio. Has there ever been another transverse, FWD V8-powered car?
There are lots of 80s and 90s FWD V8s from our American cousins.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,762 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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ingenieur said:
Considered one of these when they were about £6k but in the end just could not bear the idea of left-hand-drive in a RHD country. Imagine trying to overtake without being able to see around the vehicle in front.
I spent a year in France with a RHD drive car. It's really not a problem...

Arsecati

2,784 posts

147 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Worth every penny if you ask me, especially when looking at the prices of Fords from the same era. Blew the mind when they were unveiled back in the day: a fitting addition to the more discerning collection.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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A dangerous car as it hits my nostalgia button and that always results in big bills...

I was at the Birmingham motor show as a child and was wowed by this, it was soooo cool. I loved it. The only thing is, for me the Thema should always be an Alcantara fetishists' dream ride, no one ever did Alcantara like Lancia so thankfully I can not get too tempted.



Edited by Numeric on Monday 3rd July 08:49

Om

2,198 posts

108 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Perfectly flawed.

Hairymonster

1,678 posts

135 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Not a car I have any desire to own, but I'm glad it exists. A real curio. Has there ever been another transverse, FWD V8-powered car?
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-spottedykywt/c...

Dr G

15,980 posts

272 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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JJJ. said:
Hard not to like, value too.
Agreed. In 2023 money 30k isn't a lot for what appears to be a decent example, and I can well see someone with the funds and time at their disposal thinking that a most excellent use of both.

Also when it's broken you can just look at it (inside our out) and not mind too much.

Dombilano

1,453 posts

85 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Bang tidy

sledge68

878 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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I have an integrale and its not an issue when you have the grunt.

ingenieur said:
Considered one of these when they were about £6k but in the end just could not bear the idea of left-hand-drive in a RHD country. Imagine trying to overtake without being able to see around the vehicle in front.