RE: Jaguar XJ TDVi | Shed of the Week
RE: Jaguar XJ TDVi | Shed of the Week
Friday 7th July 2023

Jaguar XJ TDVi | Shed of the Week

Remember when diesel was considered sufficiently right and true to power God's own luxury saloon?


In the great days of Ealing comedies, Alastair Sim and Terry-Thomas, the idea of a diesel-powered Jaguar would have caused many a moustache to bristle in outrage. No self-respecting black-and-white era bank robber would have accepted an oilburner under the bonnet of his Mk2. Diesels were for lorry drivers, and that was the end of it. 

However, when Jaguar did finally bite the derv bullet in 2003 they made a very good fist of it. Or rather, parent company Ford in cahoots with PSA Peugeot Citroen made a very good fist of it. They needed to as well because premium European cars had already made the diesel jump, brilliantly rehabilitating the engines that were once the pariahs of the motor industry.

This week’s shed is a 2006 XJ TDVi from bang in the middle of the X350 production run. The important thing to remember about the X350 was its high-tech aluminium body structure that chopped around 40 per cent out of the weight of the preceding XJ, revolutionising the way the car drove – and it already drove well – without frightening off the Jag traditionalists with revolutionary styling. 

It wasn’t about the specs on XJs, it was about their unique feel on the road. For the spec hounds though the TDVi did the 0-60mph run in the high sevens, 141mph flat out and 35mpg at the pumps, a pretty useful set of numbers for a luxury saloon and practically unbelievable for those who remembered the earlier V12-powered XJs whose idea of a pleasant surprise was to return 12mpg rather than 8mpg. 

The miles aren’t low on this XJ at 166k but the body looks as crisp as the crease in Shed’s crimplene trousers, with tight shut lines and no apparent blemishes. Shed assures you that the drive experience will be really good, the 204hp twin-turbo 2.7 diesel doling out a creamy 321lb ft of torque at just 1,900rpm.

Where do they go wrong? Electronics are a weak point and the engine did get a reputation for spinning its main bearing shells. It will use a drop of oil too as it ages, but when properly looked after it’s a reliable lump that will go on to 200k or more. If you’re smelling diesel in the cabin it’s probably leaking flexi joints on the cats. A Jaguar dealer will try to lure you in for new cats at predictably vast expense, but the wise owner will choose to look online for conversion pipes that take the place of the busted flexi pipes. 

You’ll certainly want to see written evidence of two or ideally three cambelt changes and of several gearbox fluid/filter changes. In general terms DPFs and EGRs can clog up in diesel cars with high-performance potential but which are instead pootled about the place in Driving Miss Daisy fashion. As usual in these cases, Shed recommends the Italian tuneup, a service he is delighted to provide on the bypass for those villagers who have made the mistake of buying big Jags, big Mercs and the like. Again generally, injectors can leak and turbos can give up but that’s the same for any car. 

This XJ has been sitting around on the PH classifieds for a while now. It may be worth letting it sit for a few days more too because by the time you’re reading this, the MOT will either have expired or will be on the point of doing so. The next test will be interesting. The only advisories on last July’s cert were for one worn rear tyre, one worn front brake pad and two corroded rear brake pipes. If that’s the only corrosion on the car this time around, that will be a major bonus and/or miracle because the sills on these XJs are about as good at resisting rust as Shed is at resisting the village postmistress, i.e. not very. 

It’s fashionable now to write the XJ off as an old man’s car, but old men can have fun too and Shed knows that the VP would love a hide-enriched ride in this Sov. The long-wheelbase version would have suited Shed better. They were a lot kinder to the knee joints of late-night rear seat ‘occupants’ (as opposed to passengers) than regular XJs like this one. XJ parking sensors were notoriously sensitive too, going off at the merest suggestion of tiny objects approaching dangerously from the next county, or possibly as a consequence of certain rhythmic vibrations from the back seat area that did not form part of the Jag’s NVH development process.

Note the asymmetric cupholders. In a different universe a long time ago Shed would have ventured the thought that these were to hold a pint glass for sir and a glass of wine for the lady, but one of the PH bigwigs made him go on an awareness training course earlier this year so thankfully those days are long gone. 


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2 GKC

Original Poster:

2,315 posts

135 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Cool shed

Wren-went

1,063 posts

68 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Pole position , 2 grand someone will.no doubt buy it but not for me thanks.

Filibuster

3,405 posts

245 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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No. Hard pass from me.
I love a good Jag shed as much as the next guy, but a) not in early 90's Florida Lexus spec and b) not with a fking Diesel engine in it.

Turbobanana

8,470 posts

231 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Wren-went said:
Pole position , 2 grand someone will.no doubt buy it but not for me thanks.
Might need to have a word with a certain Mr Verstappen if "pole position" now means "second" smile

jwwbowe

705 posts

202 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Just missing the egg & chips


Master Bean

5,233 posts

150 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Another trader doing the sold as seen line to try to get away from any responsibility if the car goes wrong.

Hippea

3,916 posts

99 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Perfect for the true Brexit geezer

el romeral

2,212 posts

167 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Visually not bad at all. There is just the elephant in the room.

Court_S

14,750 posts

207 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Looks alright on the face of it although the colour is proper old man territory.

E30KB

304 posts

94 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Throw a packet of Werther's in and you have got yourself a deal.

Triumph Man

9,615 posts

198 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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I thought with these you got the odd bit of corrosion around dissimilar metals, but otherwise they were pretty good. I thought it was the X type that ate sills?

JD2329

513 posts

198 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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The X350 is still an elegant shape although now clearly from another era.
Exterior doesn’t look bad at ten paces but interior needs a serious clean.
The mileage supports the impression that it has been regularly used - in a good way.
Could well smoke on for a good few miles yet.

Filibuster

3,405 posts

245 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Master Bean said:
Another trader doing the sold as seen line to try to get away from any responsibility if the car goes wrong.
This always baffles me about the uk. Here in Switzerland -or Germany for that matter- no trader would ever give you a warranty on any car older than about 10 years old. And certainly not for anything at this price point.
And crucially, no one would expect them to do so!

Do people really expect a warranty on an almost 20 year old Jag that has gone around the earth 7 times (!) and costs less than two new iPhones? Really??

Edited by Filibuster on Friday 7th July 08:26

soad

34,686 posts

206 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Not sure how they expect to sell it with only 5 days MOT left?

cerb4.5lee

44,886 posts

210 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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I'm not against diesel and I've had a few myself, however with these I think they are synonymous with a petrol V8. So I think I'd prefer that version. These are lovely things to sit/travel in though I reckon, and I've always liked the idea of them.

sidewinder500

1,858 posts

124 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Great shed, and good write up

JD2329

513 posts

198 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Filibuster said:
This always baffles me about the uk. Here in Switzerland, or Germany for that matter, no trader would ever give you a warranty on any car older than about 10 years. And certainly not for anything at this price point. And crucially, no one would expect this!

Do people really expect a warranty on an almost 20 year old Jag that has gone around the earth 7 times (!) and cost less than two iPhone 14? Really??
No, but there is Sale of Goods Act which requires an item to be of merchantable quality.

Dracoro

9,033 posts

275 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Master Bean said:
Another trader doing the sold as seen line to try to get away from any responsibility if the car goes wrong.
Quite, it should be trade sales or spares/repair only (so can’t drive it away, have to transport it etc..)

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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Filibuster said:
Master Bean said:
Another trader doing the sold as seen line to try to get away from any responsibility if the car goes wrong.
This always baffles me about the uk. Here in Switzerland, or Germany for that matter, no trader would ever give you a warranty on any car older than about 10 years. And certainly not for anything at this price point. And crucially, no one would expect this!

Do people really expect a warranty on an almost 20 year old Jag that has gone around the earth 7 times (!) and cost less than two iPhone 14? Really??
It is all a bit of a minefield it seems to me. If a car is retailed the consumer has certain rights, so if the car implodes on the way home you can get your money back which seems reasonable, but I believe a little complexity is time, what is reasonable? Longer term could the dealer have reasonably known the car had issues, not just for the first week but seems to be effective for up to 6 months after the car is taken, so how is that worked out and how is that dealt with? Equally my understanding is that if the car leaves with a working clutch and the clutch fails at 5 months the trader could not reasonably have known, except the obvious rationale that most clutches go at some point so would not be liable.

I hope there is a lawyer who can explain this, as if this my interpretation is correct, and with a natural bias to the consumer, it must sometimes feel a harsh world to be a trader in, leading to increased prices and more 'spares and repairs' sales.

J4CKO

46,924 posts

230 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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I like a nice Jag, but this isnt really it.

I have to do the Jag thing at least once but this is one of those colours, like the washed out blue (strangely mirrors the first gen Citroen Picassos palette) that just ruins it.

There is an image with these, they can be raffish, caddish, suave and all that, but this is more trilby, ralgex and parking traumas, with a side serving of snapped crankshaft possibilities and diesel soundtrack.Though to be fair I bet its actually pretty nice when inside it wafting along with a good lump of diesel grunt.

I wouldnt mind smoking about in it for a year, but would rather spend a bit more and get a nicer one in a better spec.

I think these will end up quite sought after, maybe not this one but they are creeping up. We are used to Jag shaped Jags being cheap and plentiful but they havent made one since these stopped 14 years ago, and Jags arent Jag shaped any more, very nice but this was the end of the road for that style. Someone will be electrifying these in 15/20 years and charging 200 grand plus.