RE: 2023 Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo | PH Review
RE: 2023 Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo | PH Review
Wednesday 23rd August 2023

2023 Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo | PH Review

Rear-drive uberwagons are a PH staple - how does the recipe work with battery power?


While speed matters (and always will), it wouldn’t be unreasonable to conclude that some of the senior Porsche Taycans are a bit much. To have the ability to move so much car that fast can be, frankly, a bit unsettling. It’s not a phenomenon unique to Porsche, of course - it’s happening across the EV world. Roads are no quieter and speed limits no more lenient, yet the power wars continue unabated. See the 435hp, £36,495 MG 4 XPower as proof. Getting to 62mph in 3.8 seconds is probably fun a couple of times, but who really needs that in a family hatch?

Especially as less powerful EVs lose out on so much less compared to petrol powered equivalents. You don’t have to make do with an inferior engine or less advanced gearbox or similar - it really is just reduced power. This Porsche Taycan Sport Turismo may well be another car that strengthens the case for less being more when it comes to EVs. That even extends to the spec here: it’s just a silver Porsche estate, the Taycan is established (and in some areas, popular) enough to not really draw much attention at all. The Allroad-style Cross Turismo range only kicks off with the Taycan 4, presumably as the Taycan No Name is rear-drive only. But again that fits with the appeal of this model: the fundamentals are all there, just without so many fripperies. A two-tonne EV is never going to be ‘pure’, but you can see the logic; this might just be as much Taycan as most folk need.

With so much of this Taycan ostensibly familiar - even the wheels are optional from a Turbo - it’s probably worth dealing with the performance first. Because while 408hp is the headline figure, that’s only available as an overboosted launch peak, to get the big T to 62mph in 5.4 seconds. Ordinarily, the motor is offering up 326hp, which sounds rather less impressive. And the ready salted Taycan never pins anyone in their seat with slip road acceleration, or takes their breath away at launch.

Yet never does it feel underpowered, either, those dash digits ramping up to big mph in good order. If anything it’s quite nice to enjoy the whirr of motors on full throttle for a bit longer, and actually use 100 per cent of its travel more than once. By their nature, EVs always feel a bit more potent than the spec sheet says, and that’s seldom seemed truer than with the Taycan. It’s fast enough, and feels just about brisk enough to warrant the asking price.

Speaking of which, this is a more modestly specced Porsche EV than is typical, because a few options simply aren’t available on the rear-drive mode. So this one goes without four-wheel steer, air suspension or ceramic brakes, and (mostly) is all the better for it. That’s a ‘mostly’ because the brake feel of this Taycan wasn’t great, the travel quite long and the pedal too soft; it’s always been a small demerit, the balancing of regen and rotor braking not quite spot on for the Porsche, if seemingly better with the optional PSCB or PCCB brakes. It’s a small quirk that can be worked around, but is worth noting. The regen isn’t strong enough for one-pedal driving.

This feels a much more relaxed Taycan experience than those headline-hogging GTSes and Turbos. Not that they’re tiring or anything, but in being so fast and so flat and so capable you almost feel compelled to drive them to their maximum all the time. Or the maximum you feel comfortable with, at least. This one, not so much. Where those models that sit a bit lower to the ground on their air springs are always quite taut (as feels appropriate with a more focused billing), here the default setting is cushy and comfy. It’s a real treat, actually. Only when Sport Plus is selected does it really tense up and deliver that familiar (and still slightly unfathomable) Taycan ability, where the weight feels so low the battery pack must be scraping the floor and no entry speed is too optimistic. Just one steering axle makes this Taycan feel a little less omnipotent than other models, but it’s no lesser relation.

Indeed, that impression extends so far that it doesn’t even feel especially rear-drive; as with the saloon equivalent, the overriding impression is much more of huge purchase and composure. Full throttle out of junction will barely trouble the traction. Does anyone care? Probably not. But best park any dreams of a cheeky squiggle on the way back from the tip now. That said, if you can get to a skid pan…

Where certain entry points to Porsche ranges (2.0-litre Macan) seemingly exist as much to make the customer get a more expensive one as anything else, there’s no such angst with this Taycan. It’s just the Porsche EV in Standard Play, rather than fast forward, and that’s no bad thing. Perhaps the concept doesn’t feel quite as groundbreaking as it did just four short years ago (some screen functions are fiddly), the Taycan remains one of the very best EVs on sale, even with just the 326hp. Be sure to get the upgraded battery, because that gets the WLTP range above 300 (where otherwise it’s in the mid-200s) and really plays to its GT strengths. Performance Battery Plus doesn’t come cheap, but then the best Porsche options never did. Otherwise, fill your boots - or don’t, in fact, and just have a smart silver estate car. Either way, just plain Taycan remains highly recommended.


SPECIFICATION | PORSCHE TAYCAN SPORT TURISMO

Engine: Permanently excited electric motor, 79.2kWh battery (93.4kWh Performance battery Plus optional)
Transmission: Twin-speed rear transmission, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 326hp (408hp on overboost)
Torque (lb ft): 263 (launch control maximum)
0-62mph: 5.4sec
Top speed: 143mph
Weight: 2,080kg (DIN unladen)
MPG: 222-268 miles (standard battery, Performance battery Plus 304 miles and 2.93mi/kWh)
CO2: 0g/km
Price: £80,200 (price as standard; price as tested £90,438 comprising Performance Battery Plus for £4,454, Driver memory package for £282, Ambient Lighting for £329, 4+1 seats for £371, ParkAssist including Surround View for £575, Sport Chrono Package for £875, Side window trims in high gloss black for £269, Electric folding exterior mirrors for £231, 20-inch Taycan Turbo Aero wheels for £1,676, Dolomite Silver Metallic for £852)

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ChrisCh86

Original Poster:

1,131 posts

74 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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£90k for an outdated Porsche, bottom of the range, with barely any options on it. No thanks.

Even with salary sacrifice tax dodging schemes, these have always seemed like poor value, especially as everything is an optional extra (in the standard Porsche way).

No wonder everyone is leasing Chinese made EVs instead.

Buster73

5,622 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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A mate of mine is trading his Taycan in , he’s been offered £30k less than he paid for it and it’s about two years old.


No thanks .

Harry_523

544 posts

129 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Does it feel like a 90 grand car though?

Jawls

789 posts

81 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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What’s the range on these vs the GTS or Turbo? (Edit: oh, you buy an option pack and that gets WLTP range above 300)

I quite like these. But tax efficiency or needing to get into central London aside, I don’t see why you’d get one of these vs an ICE equivalent. Just too much money for something that isn’t special.

Especially since for most owners, it’s going to be second car anyway and you’ll have an ICE for the occasional long trip.

Edited by Jawls on Tuesday 22 August 13:29

Roma101

859 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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A nice car for sure and I considered getting one. Then I realised spending 90k (or a 100k if I got the 4S) on a family car that really isn’t that spacious and can only do 250 miles in one go is not a good idea.

rjfp1962

9,361 posts

103 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Be nicer if it was all in the same colour! Looking at pic. 8, the front wing looks an entirely different shade!

SDK

3,567 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Jawls said:
What’s the range on these vs the GTS or Turbo?
The GTS and Turbo models come standard with the upgraded 'Performance Battery Plus', but cost from £111k.

Range
-> Standard battery : 222 - 274 miles
-> Battery Plus : 263 - 304 miles

Edited by SDK on Tuesday 22 August 13:31

Jawls

789 posts

81 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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SDK said:
Jawls said:
What’s the range on these vs the GTS or Turbo?
The GTS and Turbo models come standard with the upgraded 'Performance Battery Plus', but cost from £111k
Thanks. Big cost jump there!

steveb8189

516 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Buster73 said:
A mate of mine is trading his Taycan in , he’s been offered £30k less than he paid for it and it’s about two years old.


No thanks .
Sounds about right. 35% after 2 years and for a trade in. Pretty much the same as an A4

SDK

3,567 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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I love the Taycan Sport Turismo but the option cost is just too much, you need to add £20k+, to get the spec you'd expect in 2023, plus the larger battery (£4.5k) if you need the extra range.

People often see the price of other expensive EV's and say 'but you could get a Porsche EV for the same price'. The problem is, the other EV's don't come with a poverty spec which needs more ££££'s added on top.

Mercutio

336 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Because of all the 'investment bros' sniffing around Porsche in the last 10 years, no one ever expects anything with their badge to ever depreciate.

As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, the 35 or 40% depreciation you get after a few years on one of these, is about right, and equivalent to other premium marques.

The problem is that some folk think you're buying a GT3 or even a 911 Carrera and therefore somehow deserve glacial depreciation just because it says "Porsche" on the trunk.

Nomme de Plum

7,050 posts

46 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Buster73 said:
A mate of mine is trading his Taycan in , he’s been offered £30k less than he paid for it and it’s about two years old.


No thanks .
You must have a rather rose tinted view of trade in values. The rule of thumb was drive out of the forecourt and return next day -25% . A good mate paid just under £100k for a New 911 991. Less than a month later took a job overseas and sold it back to Porsche for £76K

Only dropping £30k in 2 years sounds pretty good assuming it was originally a reasonably speced version.

I think peoples expectations have become very skewed and we are returning to normality.

panholio

1,109 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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These are very popular with people who own their own business. Assuming there is a company car/ tax efficient way of buying them being electric.

Nomme de Plum

7,050 posts

46 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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SDK said:
I love the Taycan Sport Turismo but the option cost is just too much, you need to add £20k+, to get the spec you'd expect in 2023, plus the larger battery (£4.5k) if you need the extra range.

People often see the price of other expensive EV's and say 'but you could get a Porsche EV for the same price'. The problem is, the other EV's don't come with a poverty spec which needs more ££££'s added on top.
I had a 4S for several months on a long term rental. Great car to drive. I would not buy a base model though.

Wren-went

1,063 posts

68 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Never thought I'd say this but give me 50 grand and the MG4 XPower over this Taycan sport Turismo.

For 36 grand performance.is outstanding on the XPower , only thing great about the Taycan is it's a Porsche and the obvious build quality will be great but come on.even.in.basic form it should match the MG .

SDK

3,567 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Wren-went said:
even.in.basic form it should match the MG .
The problem with this statement is the MG4 X-Power beats a lot of cars on performance, which cost a lot more. Some 'Super cars' included.

If performance is the only measure for your car purchase then great, but for many it isn't.

Roger Irrelevant

3,391 posts

143 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Roma101 said:
A nice car for sure and I considered getting one. Then I realised spending 90k (or a 100k if I got the 4S) on a family car that really isn’t that spacious and can only do 250 miles in one go is not a good idea.
Ditto. As soon as I got access to a salary sacrifice scheme I took a good look at these (the Cross Turismo versions). There is an awful lot to like. But the crux of it was that as a tool to cart people and lots of things about over distance they're just not as good as the much more humble (and paid-for) car I've already got, despite them being pretty darn big on the outside. it's not really an 'estate' to my mind. So for all that they're bloody lovely and bloody quick and bloody good looking, that's all academic if it can't do the job I'd need it to do. Plus the s/s scheme I've got access to is rubbish - barely any cheaper than finding my own lease deal most of the time.

Iamnotkloot

1,908 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Always liked Taycans from the rear.
From the front, not so much

crosseyedlion

2,381 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Can the world stop pretending these are an estate? They're a hatchback- and not a big one. A less usable boot than even my old Audi A4 estate but absolutely massive on the outside.

TOOMANYMS

53 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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"uberwagon"