Garage doesn't want to do my cambelt?
Garage doesn't want to do my cambelt?
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M4cruiser

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5,196 posts

180 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Strange thing, and unexpected.
Booked in for a cambelt change. On the phone the garage muttered something about making sure they had all the right tools ... (it's a large independent workshop, I've used them a few times).

Then the day before it's due in, garage calls, along the lines of: "having trouble getting the cambelt kit from our usual suppliers. And still not sure we have the right tools for it, can we please delay."

So I re-booked for a week later, but then I started to think - maybe they just don't want to do it?
It's a common Japanese car, not a rare or specialist vehicle. They must have the tools. I googled the kit and it's easily available for about £100.

Any thoughts? What would you do now?


MustangGT

13,837 posts

310 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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M4cruiser said:
Strange thing, and unexpected.
Booked in for a cambelt change. On the phone the garage muttered something about making sure they had all the right tools ... (it's a large independent workshop, I've used them a few times).

Then the day before it's due in, garage calls, along the lines of: "having trouble getting the cambelt kit from our usual suppliers. And still not sure we have the right tools for it, can we please delay."

So I re-booked for a week later, but then I started to think - maybe they just don't want to do it?
It's a common Japanese car, not a rare or specialist vehicle. They must have the tools. I googled the kit and it's easily available for about £100.

Any thoughts? What would you do now?
I would go somewhere else, far and away the easiest thing to do.

richhead

3,398 posts

41 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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MustangGT said:
I would go somewhere else, far and away the easiest thing to do.
Maybe the locking pin kit costs more than they can charge for a one off job, only worth it if they see a few of the same car

Scabutz

8,841 posts

110 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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richhead said:
MustangGT said:
I would go somewhere else, far and away the easiest thing to do.
Maybe the locking pin kit costs more than they can charge for a one off job, only worth it if they see a few of the same car
Yeah and OP should be glad they are reticent about doing it, and not doing a bodge job.

Any one remember that TV show about the Scottish mechanic with the garage in Marbella or somewhere? Distinctly remember one episode of that where that big lad from Doncaster was doing the belt on and Audi S8 and marked it with tippex instead of using the correct locking kit.

steveo3002

11,209 posts

204 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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rather find out now that they cant do it /unsure than have the engine wrecked

if its a common car any other garage /mobile mech will take it on

Norton850

852 posts

67 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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I have owned a few Alfa Romeos and often had garages um and ahh over doing cambelt/water pump/idler jobs so i learned to do it myself and with Alfas having to have it done every 3 years or 30k miles it became quite often.

I haven't owned a car with a belt since those days but my son does own a car that does and he had to take it to a main dealer as local garages didn't want to know.

Panamax

9,763 posts

64 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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...which is why I would never use an "all makes" garage. Ever. For anything.

richhead

3,398 posts

41 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Scabutz said:
richhead said:
MustangGT said:
I would go somewhere else, far and away the easiest thing to do.
Maybe the locking pin kit costs more than they can charge for a one off job, only worth it if they see a few of the same car
Yeah and OP should be glad they are reticent about doing it, and not doing a bodge job.

Any one remember that TV show about the Scottish mechanic with the garage in Marbella or somewhere? Distinctly remember one episode of that where that big lad from Doncaster was doing the belt on and Audi S8 and marked it with tippex instead of using the correct locking kit.
Exactly this, many places use tipex, and who knows how far out things are, propper locking tools are a must for most engines and they can cost hundreds for the kit, so again, unless the garage things its a good investment then better to say no rather than bodge it

stevemcs

10,323 posts

123 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Panamax said:
...which is why I would never use an "all makes" garage. Ever. For anything.
We seem to do better than most specialists thanks.

As for locking tools they are not always needed. Something simple like a hilux uses nothing more than a couple of pins.

richhead

3,398 posts

41 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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stevemcs said:
We seem to do better than most specialists thanks.

As for locking tools they are not always needed. Something simple like a hilux uses nothing more than a couple of pins.
Alot of cars dont need special tools, remember the old days, pinto etc, but it seems alot do now

markymarkthree

3,628 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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richhead said:
Alot of cars dont need special tools, remember the old days, pinto etc, but it seems alot do now
At the age of 19 i done a Mk3 Cortina by the side of the road when the belt snapped.
Happy days.

richhead

3,398 posts

41 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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markymarkthree said:
richhead said:
Alot of cars dont need special tools, remember the old days, pinto etc, but it seems alot do now
At the age of 19 i done a Mk3 Cortina by the side of the road when the belt snapped.
Happy days.
Some didnt even bend valves

Super Sonic

14,360 posts

84 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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When I did my 91 civic it was just a case of line up the marks, turn the engine over twice by hand and make sure the marks still line up. Ease of maintenance used to be a Honda selling point.

paulwirral

3,815 posts

165 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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richhead said:
markymarkthree said:
richhead said:
Alot of cars dont need special tools, remember the old days, pinto etc, but it seems alot do now
At the age of 19 i done a Mk3 Cortina by the side of the road when the belt snapped.
Happy days.
Some didnt even bend valves
I remember transit 2 ltr pintos cleared the valves , I also did one roadside . To be fair I had a few pinto engined tippers and pick ups , cortina and sierra pick ups anyone ? They were almost like a service item and I had it down to little more than an hours work without a Haynes manual they snapped so many times !

jeremyh1

1,525 posts

157 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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paulwirral said:
I remember transit 2 ltr pintos cleared the valves , I also did one roadside . To be fair I had a few pinto engined tippers and pick ups , cortina and sierra pick ups anyone ? They were almost like a service item and I had it down to little more than an hours work without a Haynes manual they snapped so many times !
Absolutely Paul my Dad had a 2 litre Sierra Estate and the rubber snapped and we just put a new belt on
No engine damage now what a clever idea that was

Biker's Nemesis

41,414 posts

238 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Yep, Pinto's were "run free".

Glosphil

4,882 posts

264 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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I had a cambelt snap on a Cavalier GLS 2-litre (130hp?) as I was pulling onto a roundabout. It was a non-interference pistons/valves engine so no damage.

The garage that fitted the new cambelt was also working on a 2L Renault 25 with a snapped belt that had caused major engine damage as the car had been travelling at 70mph at the time.

Panamax

9,763 posts

64 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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stevemcs said:
Panamax said:
...which is why I would never use an "all makes" garage. Ever. For anything.
We seem to do better than most specialists thanks.
Well yes, but how about the customers?

My lad recently had an all-makes garage attempt lifting his wallet. Needed a new wheel bearing; it was getting noisy despite a recent MOT pass. They hit him with, "the hub looks rusty so do you want us to change that as well?"

No thanks.

s p a c e m a n

12,102 posts

178 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Half of Clio 182s aren't timed correctly, the other half have never had a belt change hehe

markymarkthree

3,628 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Yep, Pinto's were "run free".
Only the 2ltr, not the 1.6 & 1.3, don't know about 1.8.