RE: Nissan goes all Alpine with new 20-23 EV concept
RE: Nissan goes all Alpine with new 20-23 EV concept
Monday 25th September 2023

Nissan goes all Alpine with new 20-23 EV concept

New EV marks 20 years of Nissan's London design studio - and rivals A290_β as a city-friendly hot rod


Elsewhere in the world this week, Nissan is busying itself with the launch of the new and slightly more powerful Z Nismo. Over here, we get an electric concept car unveiled on a barge. But that’s okay because for once the manufacturer has let its UK-based stylists cut loose and design ‘a fun electric city car that [they’d] like to drive every day in London.’ Unsurprisingly, for what we assume is a bunch of twentysomething car nuts, they turned in the most balls-out, motorsport-inspired concept that could possibly be squeezed onto a three-door supermini platform. 

Nissan says the result - dubbed the 20-23 - is nothing more than a bit of celebratory blue-sky thinking to mark the fact that its European design studio has been located in London for 20 years. But if it looks familiar that’s likely because Nissan Design Europe likely has small cars on the brain right now as it hits a downslope which ends with the introduction of the next-generation Micra. Which, it just so happens, is set to share the CMF-BEV platform that underpins the new Renault 5. And the Alpine A290. Which everyone drooled over in concept format back in the spring. 

The reception given to Alpine’s beta-special has clearly not passed Nissan’s designers by. If the 20-23 isn’t a yeah-but-look-what-we-can-do rebuttal, then our name is not PistonHeads and we didn’t eat too much cheese for lunch. Nissan says the colossal arches and downforce-generating rear wing and check-me-out wheels reflect ‘both the world of online racing and [its] participation in Formula E.’ Okay, sure - but it’s also a three-door hot hatch with scissor doors. Take that, Dieppe. 

Whether or not it actually hints at the next Micra is obviously open to question. Given the conservatism that has generally marked out Nissan’s supermini, we’re going to say probably not. But it’s increasingly clear that both the incoming Renault 5 and the Alpine A290 are going to be serious lookers - if nothing else, the 20-23 suggests that the occupants of the Nissan Design Europe are adamant that the manufacturer need not be outdone on the styling front. And with Makoto Uchida, the firm’s President and CEO personally pulling the covers off in London, it couldn’t have hoped for a bigger wig to sell the idea to…


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ChrisCh86

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1,131 posts

74 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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I like it. Obviously any production car isn't going to remotely resemble this, but at least it's not a SUV.

The final version will obviously be the sister car to the Renault 5 EV (whenever that launches) and will share most of its underpinnings with that car.


I imagine the other car to be built at Sunderland will be an electric version of the Juke, but we'll have to wait for that one.

pb8g09

3,241 posts

99 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Motoring equivalent of reading the gossip column on football transfers.

Until seen in the metal, I’m not interested.

C5_Steve

8,962 posts

133 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Looks like a cyberpunk Nissan Micra.

I like it. Good to see some proper concept cars again.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Oh yes please

whp1983

1,387 posts

169 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Looks ace…. I’d like a sense of scale… is it actually super mini/ hatch size or is it like the ionic 5 where on its own looks like a hot hatch but it is the size of a discovery.

ex-devonpaul

1,745 posts

167 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Looks a lot like a Metro 6R4 to me.

Justin-ow582

611 posts

135 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Anyone fancy rendering a version without the illuminated Harold Lloyd glasses?

nismo48

7,104 posts

237 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Liking that and I hope it closely resembles it at production time, got some elements of Mini in its shape I feel

Edited by nismo48 on Wednesday 27th September 18:20

abzmike

12,032 posts

136 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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So bored of EV ‘concepts’ now…. All the big wheels, spoilers, scoops, funky lights, ridiculous interiors.
Save the money building them and make cheaper cars for actual production.

Lil_Red_GTV

808 posts

173 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Strip away all the skirts and flared arches and I suppose it could conceivably be the face of the new Micra EV underneath.

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

138 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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My first reaction was that it looks bloody horrendous, but I think I can kind of see it, if you get rid of all the stupid concept car nonsense (stretched tyres, really? Do you want to add 30 degrees of negative camber and then write "low and slow" on the back next to a transfer of a weed leaf?).

Thing is, though, if it's going to be used on road it would need about an inch more ride height, which would look utterly stupid with that body kit. I feel like those "20-something car nuts" have never encountered a sleeping policeman!

GreatScott2016

2,533 posts

118 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Looks ready for a tarmac stage, would fit right in with the WRC smile

Terminator X

20,724 posts

234 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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If it looks like that when built fair play to them!

TX.

paul13

802 posts

232 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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abzmike said:
So bored of EV ‘concepts’ now…. All the big wheels, spoilers, scoops, funky lights, ridiculous interiors.
Save the money building them and make cheaper cars for actual production.
^^^THIS

Diderot

9,663 posts

222 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Terminator X said:
If it looks like that when built fair play to them!

TX.
Aye, looks bonkers in a good way.

GTRene

22,556 posts

254 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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love the looks, ok it has to be a bit higher otherwise no speedbumps, but it would be nice as a AWD around 450-500hp with E-fuel engine, not EV engine.

04helipilot

414 posts

181 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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That looks soooo good, want one - but not when its watered down for production.
Annoying that they nearly always show you what they could do but don't.

pacdes

782 posts

191 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Yes please, with knobs on.

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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I'm wondering who the actual target market is for the car that sits underneath this. The real car wont be very powerful, nor have all the wings, nor have the low ride height, etc. What will the storage capacity be like? What about the steering (wheel?) yoke be like? I suppose its a bit of fun, and I like some bits of it (lights look interesting), but I can't see the production version looking ANYTHING like this.

If anything, why dont they start with an actual rally car and work backwards?

Alex Z

2,072 posts

106 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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Tone that down for production, and I think you’ve got a decent looking hatch that will find buyers.